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Your consistent POV pushing which often seems nationalistic is unacceptable and beyond the pale. Your constant edit warring on ] resulted in two blocks by {{U|El C}}, now you are edit warring in ], as seen , , and , again a blatant violation of ]. {{U|Utcursch}} have infromed you "not in source; the book is titled Bangladesh and mentions mishti doi; one can find several books about cuisine of Kolkata / West Bengal which mention mishti doi" as seen in multiple refs , , and . But, you still edit warred with both {{U|Utcursch}} and {{U|Gotitbro}}. You again changed Bengali dishes to "Bangladeshi" in ], ] and ]. I strongly suggest you revert these edits already and try a broader dispute resolution which will address your ideological dispute with the terms more approparitely than unilateral changes to long standing versions. Otherwise the area is covered by discretionary sanctions and I won't hesitate to report you. ''']''' <sup>('']'')</sup> 05:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC) Your consistent POV pushing which often seems nationalistic is unacceptable and beyond the pale. Your constant edit warring on ] resulted in two blocks by {{U|El C}}, now you are edit warring in ], as seen , , and , again a blatant violation of ]. {{U|Utcursch}} have infromed you "not in source; the book is titled Bangladesh and mentions mishti doi; one can find several books about cuisine of Kolkata / West Bengal which mention mishti doi" as seen in multiple refs , , and . But, you still edit warred with both {{U|Utcursch}} and {{U|Gotitbro}}. You again changed Bengali dishes to "Bangladeshi" in ], ] and ]. I strongly suggest you revert these edits already and try a broader dispute resolution which will address your ideological dispute with the terms more approparitely than unilateral changes to long standing versions. Otherwise the area is covered by discretionary sanctions and I won't hesitate to report you. ''']''' <sup>('']'')</sup> 05:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Aman.kumar.goel}}, it's rather the other way round, Gotitbro has been restoring the nationalist POV changes made by ] and his sock IPs in these articles, essentially replacing Bangladesh with Indian subcontinent as the origin, quite akin to ], just like what happened on ] (I have already told El C about this pattern). All I did was add sources to these unsourced articles and made changes according to the sources. On ], after Utcurch expressed his concern, I added few more sources and again, made changes according to the sources. , , . All these edits were reverted by Gotitbro, claiming Utcursch endorsed his revert. The claim was proven false when I asked Utcursch if he really endorsed that revert, which he denied saying "I have not made any similar edits, so I'm not sure why my name is being used. I don't endorse those edits." This falsely claiming an admin's endorsement to revert another editor is a blatant violation of the ] listed in ]. Gotitbro again removed those sourced content, claiming ] is a "problematic ref".. I opened a discussion at the talk page requesting to explain there before removing the sources. It's been 13 days and no response has been given. ] had also been affected by sock IPs of Highpeaks35. I checked the sources and there were plenty of source misrepresentations which I removed (my edit summaries there already explain this). I went through the history of the article and restored the better sourced version. Same story with ] and ], I added sources and made changes per the sources. If you have doubts over these edits, start discussions in those talk pages and I will explain in detail which source supports which edits along with full quotes. Now let's shed a light on your behaviour. It does appear that you have been ]. Earlier you reverted my edits at ], and ], without any discussion. And now, you are falsely accusing me of nationalist edit warring on articles where Gotitbro has been constantly restoring unsourced POV content. I wouldn't be surprised if I find you ] with Gotitbro to revert my changes without gaining a consensus. In fact, if I go through your contributions, you just appear to be moving from one dispute to another, reverting other editors, assuming bad faith and threatning others to report. Your behavior clearly shows a ] attitude and violations of ] and ], enough to receive a sanction. {{u|El C}}, I hope you are following the discussion. ] (]) 08:07, 13 July 2020 (UTC) :{{u|Aman.kumar.goel}}, it's rather the other way round, Gotitbro has been restoring the nationalist POV changes made by ] and his sock IPs in these articles, essentially replacing Bangladesh with Indian subcontinent as the origin, quite akin to ], just like what happened on ] (I have already told El C about this pattern). All I did was add sources to these unsourced articles and made changes according to the sources. On ], after Utcurch expressed his concern, I added few more sources and again, made changes according to the sources. , , . All these edits were reverted by Gotitbro, claiming Utcursch endorsed his revert. The claim was proven false when I asked Utcursch if he really endorsed that revert, which he denied saying "I have not made any similar edits, so I'm not sure why my name is being used. I don't endorse those edits." This falsely claiming an admin's endorsement to revert another editor is a blatant violation of the ] listed in ]. Gotitbro again removed those sourced content, claiming ] is a "problematic ref".. I opened a discussion at the talk page requesting to explain there before removing the sources. It's been 13 days and no response has been given. ] had also been affected by sock IPs of Highpeaks35. I checked the sources and there were plenty of source misrepresentations which I removed (my edit summaries there already explain this). I went through the history of the article and restored the better sourced version. Same story with ] and ], I added sources and made changes per the sources. If you have doubts over these edits, start discussions in those talk pages and I will explain in detail which source supports which edits along with full quotes. Now let's shed a light on your behaviour. It does appear that you have been ]. Earlier you reverted my edits at ], and ], without any discussion. And now, you are falsely accusing me of nationalist edit warring on articles where Gotitbro has been constantly restoring unsourced POV content. I wouldn't be surprised if I find you ] with Gotitbro to revert my changes without gaining a consensus. In fact, if I go through your contributions, you just appear to be moving from one dispute to another, reverting other editors, assuming bad faith and threatning others to report. Your behavior clearly shows a ] attitude and violations of ] and ], enough to receive a sanction. {{u|El C}}, I hope you are following the discussion. ] (]) 08:07, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
::I can tell that your reply has failed to address the concerns I was raising. Using User:Highpeaks35 and his block as a cover for your own unilateral modifications involving "Bengali" to "Bangladeshi" and removing any mention of India or ] from the infobox as you have done , , , , is simply enough. If a person has taken responsibility of edits made by a blocked user then you should challenge the edit on the basis that are seperate from irrelevant socking issues. All these dishes are consumed in both nations, India and Bangladesh. The use of ] is self-explanatory, it is not a peer reviewed academic article, furthermore, it is a Bangladeshi newspaper, with probable bias, other references for Misti doi clearly stated it is a Bengali dish, not just Bangladeshi. As for ], you inserted "] and ]" in there. Bangladesh was founded in 1971, long after the Pala Empire. The Palas spoke proto-Bengali, not even modern Bengali. {{U|NavjotSR}} explained this on the talk page of ]. You are also removing any mention of "Indian" from articles, as seen in ] and ]. {{U|Fylindfotberserk}} warned you before about pushing nationalism there as well. Most importantly, you edit warring in Misti doi shows you have learned little from your previous blocks, as seen , , and , again a blatant violation of ]. ''']''' <sup>('']'')</sup> 18:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Your consistent POV pushing which often seems nationalistic is unacceptable and beyond the pale. Your constant edit warring on Bakarkhani resulted in two blocks by El C, now you are edit warring in Mishti doi, as seen here, here, and here, again a blatant violation of WP:EW. Utcursch have infromed you here "not in source; the book is titled Bangladesh and mentions mishti doi; one can find several books about cuisine of Kolkata / West Bengal which mention mishti doi" as seen in multiple refs here, here, and here. But, you still edit warred with both Utcursch and Gotitbro. You again changed Bengali dishes to "Bangladeshi" in Mughlai paratha, Chotpoti and Jhalmuri. I strongly suggest you revert these edits already and try a broader dispute resolution which will address your ideological dispute with the terms more approparitely than unilateral changes to long standing versions. Otherwise the area is covered by discretionary sanctions and I won't hesitate to report you. Aman Kumar Goel 05:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Aman.kumar.goel, it's rather the other way round, Gotitbro has been restoring the nationalist POV changes made by User:Highpeaks35 and his sock IPs in these articles, essentially replacing Bangladesh with Indian subcontinent as the origin, quite akin to WP:PROXYING, just like what happened on Bakarkhani (I have already told El C about this pattern). All I did was add sources to these unsourced articles and made changes according to the sources. On Mishti Doi, after Utcurch expressed his concern, I added few more sources and again, made changes according to the sources. , , . All these edits were reverted by Gotitbro, claiming Utcursch endorsed his revert. The claim was proven false when I asked Utcursch if he really endorsed that revert, which he denied saying "I have not made any similar edits, so I'm not sure why my name is being used. I don't endorse those edits." This falsely claiming an admin's endorsement to revert another editor is a blatant violation of the guidance for editors listed in WP:ACDS. Gotitbro again removed those sourced content, claiming The Daily Star (Bangladesh) is a "problematic ref".. I opened a discussion at the talk page requesting to explain there before removing the sources. It's been 13 days and no response has been given. Mughlai Paratha had also been affected by sock IPs of Highpeaks35. I checked the sources and there were plenty of source misrepresentations which I removed (my edit summaries there already explain this). I went through the history of the article and restored the better sourced version. Same story with Jhalmuri and Chotpoti, I added sources and made changes per the sources. If you have doubts over these edits, start discussions in those talk pages and I will explain in detail which source supports which edits along with full quotes. Now let's shed a light on your behaviour. It does appear that you have been following my edits. Earlier you reverted my edits at Pala Empire, and Nazrul Geeti, without any discussion. And now, you are falsely accusing me of nationalist edit warring on articles where Gotitbro has been constantly restoring unsourced POV content. I wouldn't be surprised if I find you tag teaming with Gotitbro to revert my changes without gaining a consensus. In fact, if I go through your contributions, you just appear to be moving from one dispute to another, reverting other editors, assuming bad faith and threatning others to report. Your behavior clearly shows a WP:BATTLEGROUND attitude and violations of WP:CIVIL and WP:HARASS, enough to receive a sanction. El C, I hope you are following the discussion. Za-ari-masen (talk) 08:07, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
I can tell that your reply has failed to address the concerns I was raising. Using User:Highpeaks35 and his block as a cover for your own unilateral modifications involving "Bengali" to "Bangladeshi" and removing any mention of India or Indian cuisine from the infobox as you have done here, here, here, here, is simply enough. If a person has taken responsibility of edits made by a blocked user then you should challenge the edit on the basis that are seperate from irrelevant socking issues. All these dishes are consumed in both nations, India and Bangladesh. The use of The Daily Star (Bangladesh) is self-explanatory, it is not a peer reviewed academic article, furthermore, it is a Bangladeshi newspaper, with probable bias, other references for Misti doi clearly stated it is a Bengali dish, not just Bangladeshi. As for Pala Empire, you inserted "Bangladeshi art and Sculpture of Bangladesh" in there. Bangladesh was founded in 1971, long after the Pala Empire. The Palas spoke proto-Bengali, not even modern Bengali. NavjotSR explained this on the talk page of Bakarkhani. You are also removing any mention of "Indian" from articles, as seen in Nazrul Geeti and Surya Sen. Fylindfotberserk warned you before about pushing nationalism there as well. Most importantly, you edit warring in Misti doi shows you have learned little from your previous blocks, as seen here, here, and here, again a blatant violation of WP:EW. Aman Kumar Goel 18:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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