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To-do list for Pristina: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2010-03-25

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Copyedit : some needed
Expand : add sections on education, places of interest, transport, governance, etc
NPOV : it is difficult to tell whether some statements are objective or POV - more use needed of references to reliable sources and reference to/presentation of opposing viewpoints
Verify : needs more inline citations to progress up the quality scale, particularly given the recent history
Other : remove irrelevant material, eg, ref to Ulpiana (it's not even close and it's covered elsewhere!)

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Edit Request

In the text, it's said that Pristina is the capital and ~~largest~~ city of Kosovo, it's right that it's the capital, but it's the second biggest city of Kosovo, after Podujevo, Podujevo coming with 633km2, while Pristina has 572km2, but you can say that by population Pristina is higher. 185.174.209.38 (talk) 07:25, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Not done. The size of a city is usually measured by the number of inhabitants. That is what people usually think when they read about the "size" of a city. Per the WP:principle of least astonishment, we cam thus say that Pristina is the largest city of Kosovo. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:13, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Ktrimi991's revert

@Ktrimi991 Concerning your revert with "Eric Hamp is a linguistic source of the highest quality, way more recognized and cited than all other sources of the section combined": The reason why the Slavic theory goes first is because it is supported way more. Judging by the sources, the Proto-Slavic/Serbian etymology is supported by five sources. How many sources back the Proto-Albanian theory by Hamp? None. Your personal opinion of Hamp, and your alleged "over-qualification" of his work compared to others, is backed by no RS. --Azor (talk). 19:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Hamp's view is supported by Curtis and Mehmeti. And yes, Hamp is way more recognozed than the rest of sources. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

@Ktrimi991 Mehmeti don't explicitly agree with Hamp, it is called recitation. Read the source. --Azor (talk). 19:12, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

I read Mehmeti way before you did. He says:Hamp’s sharp eyes dissected even phonetic evolution of certain Albanian place-names which went hand-to-hand with the complex historical processes that underwent carriers of Albanian. Being himself an ardent neogrammarian, Hamp inferred peculiar phenomena as an outcome of the specific development of place-names: of major importance is his new etymology regarding Prishtinë, attested ever since, which he acknowledged as a derivative of *pṛ-tu-, harking back to the Indo-European root *per- ,,passage, through”, cognate with Lat. portus and Eng. ford, while for the second element he surmised *stein-, a cognate with English ‘stone’, thus most likely a motivated name for a place between rivers. Moreover, vocalization ṛ > ri, which is notably Albanian, warrants that proto-Albanian has been spoken in Dardania before Trajan commenced to spread Latinization through Dacia. Je praises Hamp's etymology of Pristina. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Where do you see praising? It's recitations/interpretations. Mehmeti is explaining Hamp's work. That's why Mehmeti's source was used to refer to Hamp's work, as you can see in the article. --Azor (talk). 21:57, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Lead

Pristina seems to have been a small village before the late 15th century. ... The first mosque in Pristina was built in the late 14th century while under Serbian rule.

The second claim seems highly improbable in light of the first. Srnec (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Good point. The second sentence is sourced to a travel guide, so it does not meet the WP:RS criteria. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:55, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Expansion of the lead

Why wasn't my edit an improvement, Iaof2017? Let me remind you that the lead is supposed to be an overall summary of the article. --Azor (talk). 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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