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lolikilledit

I broke the image, change it anyway, that's a crap picture.

the current photo really sucks.!!!!

Changes to Along Came A Spider

I changed along came a spiders album info to reflect the fact that the info about the album is completely misinformed as the album isn't about Steven but rather, Spider —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devilreincarnate (talkcontribs) 07:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Stage Name

The stage name Alice Cooper was fabricated after dame Alice Kyteler from Kilkenny/Ireland who almost got burnt as a witch and fled the country overnight. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/Alice_Kyteler Kyteler stems from ketiler (norse for kettle maker) or ket(t)el(l)er (flemish for kettle maker); it is not clear if her family was of Anglo-Norman or Flemish ancestry. As the name of Alice Kyteler does not sound American, a cooper was made out of the kettle maker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.185.207.162 (talk) 16:15, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

um, no.Kingevil (talk) 00:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

1974

1974 is the year when Alice Cooper obtained a legal name change. http://www.zazzle.co.uk/alicecooper/about If anyone cares to actually mention it in the intro or the body of the article... Israell (talk) 06:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Royalty Paid To Other Band Members Regarding The Usage Of The Name Alice Cooper

I remember reading an interview 10-15 years ago with one of the original band memembers of the Alice Cooper Band. He said he was paid 3% of the gross revenu per year that Alice Cooper (Vincent Fournier) made. I don't have the article so I will not post it. Maybe someone else could clarify on this. Thought it was interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.253.138.252 (talk) 17:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

there is ZERO factual information to back up how much alice's original band makes, currently, from the 'alice cooper' brand. therefore, it is useless to mention any amount, or guess how much it could be. i'm deleting the part about the old band members being able to 'live comfortably' from their share of the money, as there is no proof of this, and 'comfortable' is a relative term.Kingevil (talk) 22:05, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

There is no justification for deleting it, especially when another user has indicated that a reference exists but that he cannot get details of it. It's much better to add a "citation needed" tag. Jprw (talk) 10:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

until a reference can be found, it should NOT be listed. especially worded the way it was. are you sure you know what an encyclopedia is??Kingevil (talk) 20:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

The "citation needed" tag is an accepted way of recording references in Misplaced Pages. This is not KingEvilpedia -- your whole approach is far too aggressive and subjective. Jprw (talk) 10:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


my approach is 'subjective' as it aligns itself with the truth. WHY WOULD YOU MENTION A TOPIC THAT STILL HAS NOT PROVEN TO BE REMOTELY TRUE??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? BECAUSE OF SOMEONE WHO 'ONCE SAW' AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT???????????? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS ABOUT.Kingevil (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

photo

the current photo is hideous!! i'll upload a new one to commons.Kingevil (talk) 22:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

never mind. i won't be doing that. can someone please post a more appropriate photo?Kingevil (talk) 02:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

rnr hof induction petitions from fans

removed this entire entry as it's irrelevant. also, there have been MANY attempts at getting alice inducted into the hof, not just two. let it also be known that these 'fan petitions' do more HARM than good.Kingevil (talk) 03:17, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


you still revert this change, yet give no explanation here, as to why you feel it needs to stay? waiting.....Kingevil (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

no trilogy

despite what some reviewers and critics think, dragontown was NOT the third part of a trilogy, also including the last temptation and brutal planet. alice had mentioned the idea of a trilogy starting with brutal planet. however, alice went in a different direction after dragontown, with the eyes of alice cooper.Kingevil (talk) 03:24, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

It is clearly a trilogy reflecting his personal faith perspective. It's easy to hack off well researched references and replace them with your own biased and highly subjective take on events. I will restore the original reference. Jprw (talk) 07:00, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


wow. you really don't have a gasp of alice cooper history. alice's old, crappy record label incorrectly stated dragotown was the 3rd part of a trilogy. however, that has been retracted, and it is well-known that the 'trilogy' was supposed to start with brutal planet. it has NOTHING to do with his faith perspective.

http://www.sickthingsuk.co.uk/albums/a-dt.php

end of story.Kingevil (talk) 20:29, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


EVEN MORE PROOF THAT YOU'RE WRONG!!!!

http://www.hmmagazine.com/exclusive/alice_cooper_part_2200304/index.php

"The funny thing was that The Last Temptation really wasn't part of the trilogy. That was on its own. That was the first thing I wrote as a Christian. And then, it was six years before I wrote Brutal Planet. Brutal Planet was a whole different story. Brutal Planet was a story that was talking about, 'What's the world like? Let's get a picture of the future 50 years from now, when all of the systems have failed, church, family, school, politics, every system has failed, and there's no God. Let's say that no one believes in God. Well, what have we got? Now we've got Brutal Planet this horrible place that nobody wants to be.' That's what that album was about. Dragontown was part two of that, which was a little bit more character driven. I was kind of like showing you characters that are there. The point on that one is, 'You can even be a nice guy and be in Hell. The road to Hell is littered with nice guys with good intentions.' Part three is in the works right now."Kingevil (talk) 20:55, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

That is Alice's subjective opinion. Looking at his long career and numerous albums, the three albums are his first overtly Christian records, and they all come one after another. So a more objective assessement would be that they do indeed form a kind of trilogy. Jprw (talk) 11:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

ok, so you know more than alice cooper, about alice cooper? lol. and now they are 'kind of' a trilogy????????? since when does 'kind of' information belong in an encyclopedic article?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! you amaze me.Kingevil (talk) 17:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

reunion section

the date of the alice cooper/alice cooper group 'reunion' was 10/23/1999, not 1998. changed the date. also, i deleted this incorrect statement about the christmas pudding 'reunion':

"The 2006 reunion was by far the biggest and most complete reunion involving some rehearsals."

the 1999 event also featured rockin' reggie on backing vocals. this was the first 'reunion' of sorts.

additionally, the absence of a second guitar player wasn't 'in honor of their fallen friend.' it was obvious that putting someone else in that position would detract from the purpose of a 'reunion.'

michael bruce has played with alice on at least two occasions.

the whole section is horribly written and incorrect. i'm changing it.Kingevil (talk) 01:23, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

makeup

alice has has two types of makeup styles. the first is referred to as the 'spider eye' makeup. the second, alice has dubbed 'demented clown' makeup. there has NEVER been 'snake eyes' makeup.

jprw - do some research before you make any further changes to this article. otherwise, it is just considered vandalism.Kingevil (talk) 01:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Where is your reliable source to the "demented clown" makeup reference—i.e., where is your own research? Actually it your own editing of the Alice Cooper page that better fits a description of vandalism, as you chop things out with no justification whatsoever. Jprw (talk) 10:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


again, WRONG!! reference was listed. end of story. can you show me anything that refers to his makeup as 'snake eyes?' no, you can't, because no reliable source has ever referred to it as such!!

http://www.sickthingsuk.co.uk/musicians/m-alice.php

"Alice's make-up is copyrighted in some shape or manner. There was no specific reasoning for the design. It kind of developed out of a demented clown puppet thing I once heard him say." (Brian Nelson, October 1995) Kingevil (talk) 20:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


sill waiting for your source that his makeup has EVER been referred to as 'snake eyes.'Kingevil (talk) 17:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

religion

"Although he tends to shy away from speaking publicly of his faith,"

oh really????? a good portion of his latest book mentions his faith. every time he mentions his charity, he is 'speaking publicly of his faith,' since his charity is formed around christian beliefs. even their logo has a cross in it!!!! fact remains - alice has no qualms with speaking about his religion, and does so when given the opportunity.Kingevil (talk) 02:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

still waiting for your proof that alice cooper shys away from speaking about his faith.Kingevil (talk) 17:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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