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Heather Bresch M.B.A. controversy

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Heather Bresch is - barely - notable. This controversy is anything but. The existence of this article blatantly violates WP:BLP and WP:UNDUE. The article needs to die. Guy (Help!) 15:13, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. E _CK _SA E _S 15:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Can you please be more specific about the blatant violation of WP:BLP? Would your concerns be addressed if the article were renamed to eliminate her name? Lou Sander (talk) 15:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Keep. The sources needed to establish notability clearly exist and they're cited. That's really all that matters at AfD. Msnicki (talk) 15:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Keep, or possibly merge with West Virginia University - Note that there is also a move proposal under discussion. The article has roughly 11 sources from three independent, reliable sources. It would seem to meet WP:GNG. The nominator has not explained why "this article blatantly violates WP:BLP" or why it's WP:UNDUE, but it doesn't matter, because those are content issues, not a notability issues.- Mr X 15:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
~~Keep~~ Merge to History of West Virginia University. Vast amount of RS backing up the verifiability of this event. Passes GNG by a wide margin. IMHO, meets each criteria of WP:EVENT. Concerns about BLP seem overblown, since there's nothing controversial in either this pagespace or the Bresch article which isn't well cited with RS. No statement of personal misconduct in either page. After reading the linked move discussion, I'm also inclined to endorse the move proposal. While this incident involved the degree of one (highly visible) student, the impact and the sourcing points towards WVU as the more proper subject and move or merge target. BusterD (talk) 16:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Delete or possibly merge to WVU. User:JzG is correct: this is a blatant BLP violation and undue to boot. Most of this stuff has nothing to do with her--it's a WVU matter, an unseemly one, but it's their business. I don't know if she's barely notable or not; the Fortune accolades suggest that she should pass the test. How is this a BLP violation? Well, the material doesn't really relate to her, and by giving this material its own article we are suggesting that this is one of the things she's known for and it's such an important thing that like the Vietnam War and Amstel Beer it deserves its own article. I have little interest in figuring out if this was a hatchet job to begin with, or what the background of Jimbo's recent involvement is, or whatever--but this needs to go. A paragraph in WVU, a sentence, maybe two, in her biography, and NO redirect. Come on people. Drmies (talk) 16:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Of course the material relates to her. Did you read the article at all, or any of the sources like this one or this one. Any issues about WP:NPOV are addressed by trivially changing the title of the article, and perhaps tweaking some of the content.- MrX 17:00, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
  - Drmies covered that w/ "a sentence" in her article. Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Delete or merge to a UWV article, its a BLP problematic POV Fork ONEVENT and entirely unneeded as a separate article per Drmies. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Delete or Merge to the university article. As Drmies points out, it's mainly an issue concerning the university rather than the person, and as a standalone article it looks like a BLP/one event/undue problem. Squinge (talk) 17:15, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Merge to either the WVU article or the History of WVU article. Doesn't meet notability standards as a stand-alone event. Coretheapple (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Merge a condensed version to the History of West Virginia University as proposed above. Good call. bd2412 T 20:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
delete or seriously trim and merge. gigantic BLP issue.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Keep but rename as per the article's talk page. Metamagician3000 (talk) 00:23, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Keep per Msnicki. This is neither a POV fork nor solely WVU history, but a notable intersection of politics, medicine, academia, and business. No, we don't like how the world works, but this is how it works, and we ought to allow the editors who collected several good RSes to keep their work available to those interested. The comparison to Vietnam War is especially specious because very few articles are on such overwhelmingly notable topics - much more common are articles like SummerSlam (2003) (and don't even try to quote OTHERSTUFFEXISTS at me, because that article and many of comparable notability are featured as "Misplaced Pages's best work"!) There are matters that mere peasants ought not dare look into or think about but how about we do it anyway? Wnt (talk) 00:49, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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