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Eid Mubarak!!

	Greetings....
	Salam! How are you? And how had your Eid been? Hope you were completely fine and had a really splendid Eid... Please accept my greetings too! The Moon has been sighted here, too and we will be celebrating Eid tomorrow, In sha Allah... —Шαмıq ☪ тαʟκ✍ @ 17:30, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Greetings from me too! May you live happily for ever. Faizan 17:48, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, happy Eid to you guys too. Sorry, I saw this soon after you both commented but I said "let me reply to them later" and forgot about it. Look forward to seeing you two graduate some day soon. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem at all! Better late than never... And yeah, but you will have to still wait a lot before we can call ourselves ‘graduates’. Anyways, I will wish you again on the eve of ‘the Greater Eid’ in sha Allah. Till then, please pray for our good academic results...—Шαмıq ☪ _тαʟκ✍ @ 12:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for translation

Good day,

since you are apparently willing to translate Arabic texts for hapless Wikipedians I thought I'd ask, if you would help me out. It's not a lot, just a couple of words, so here we go:

الدعدع

The above is a name, and I need the English transcription for it. (Full name was: امين على امين الدعدع)

بطلقتات

The above was used in the following: اثر اصابته بطلقتات ناريه بالصدر

بالرقيه

The word was used in the following context: اثر اصابته بطلقات ناريه بالرقيه والصدر

Thanks in advance. (Lord Gøn (talk) 20:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC))

Oh, that's the last name of one of those shooting victims. I saw that. Well, there's a letter in there we don't have in English, Ayin, and it's like a vowel sound but comes deeper down in the back of the throat. The word is roughly pronounced da'da' where the apostrophes are are the Arabic letter ayn. Keep in mind, though, that the victim is Egyptian and Egyptians have notoriously weird pronunciations when they use standard Arabic words, so it could end up being something more like de'a de'a, and considering the victims seem to have been villagers/small town folk, the English spelling (all Egyptian citizens have their names in both Arabic and English in their passports) could have been completely wrong in terms of phonetics. I would suggest the spelling Al-Daedae as excessive apostrophes in the name might seem strange to native speakers of English, though I guess Al-De'de' would be the closest to Egyptian pronunciation if you prefer using apostrophes for the letter ayn. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I see. Well, I'll try to find out how transcription of that letter is generally handled here on Misplaced Pages, maybe there's a guideline or something, and then decide what version to use. Any suggestions on the other two words? (Lord Gøn (talk) 17:36, 26 August 2013 (UTC))

Oh, I completely ignored the other words. Both of them are misspelled though. بطلقتات means "by gunshot wounds" and رقيه means "sensitive" and could likely be a euphemism for the victim being shot below the belt, though it would be better to see that written in more than one source before writing it that way. As for guidelines then there might not be - the problem is that Arabic speakers themselves will spell their names differently with Latin letters depending on whether their nation was colonized by Britain or France. I will see if I can find some sort of a guideline too. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Message

Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Abu Yusuf Riyadh ul Haq

Assalamu alaykum, I hope you are well. Any chance you could look at this page: Abu Yusuf Riyadh ul Haq ? One editor seems intent on making it into a fan page and adding unreferenced, or poorly referenced, material. My regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

User:GorgeCustersSabre, I sure will. I'm seeing a number of violations of WP:IRS already. If the user in question is motivated, perhaps some education on basic site policies and guidelines can help them to fine tune their editing. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Waris Ali Shah

Hi, I saw your deletion template on the article Waris Ali Shah, since you put it there I had done some additions based on RS and think that the deletion template should be removed. Please have a look on the article and if you agree with me then we can have deletion template removed from there. Thanks.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haiderc_s 22:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

User:Faizhaider, the work you did on that article is stupendous and just the sort of sourcing work needed; prior to that, I really didn't think the subject was notable or that some of the material on there was true. Good job, and I removed the template. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:04, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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AfD discussions

I'm a little concerned that all of your recent AfD nominations appear to be for topics with connections to the Barelvi movement. Is there any particular reason for this, or is it just coincidence? Phil Bridger (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

@User:Phil Bridger, thanks for expressing your concerns here; they're valid and I do value the feedback on my editing. There is a reason but it isn't related to the movement itself; it's related to the user behind the specific articles I nominated. The shortest way I could put it is that during Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Msoamu/Archive, it was found that several users who have edit-warred on Barelvi related articles for six years were the same person the whole time, as they later confessed. This was all revealed about four and a half months ago. Another month and a half ago while bored and Wikisurfing via my own talk page archives, I realized that one of the sockpuppet accounts had created a fake portal linking to fake articles. The portal is still there as I don't quite know how to handle it, but I looked at articles the various socks had created during the blocks of the main account.

A great deal of what they created was so obviously non-notable and solely intended to create online buzz, that some of it was prodded or even speedily deleted (I was the nom for said deletions). Anything about which I suspected was non-notable due to the antics I've seen from these accounts for the past six years, I nominated for AfD as suspicion alone isn't grounds for speedy or prod; a community-wide discussion for that would be required. Anything that was clearly notable, and I simply cut out all the peacock terms and ridiculous POV pushing.

I am assuming that since you did take the time to contact me personally, my recent editing must be a cause of concern for others. Please look over what I read here, and if you feel any of the recent nominations were baseless or incorrect in some other way then voicing such concerns could help me to adjust any problematic behavior on my part. Don't worry, I have thick skin and I don't get offended by criticism. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I no longer have any concerns. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Muawiyah I

Yesterday I said to Adjwilley:

We spent a year going through the Muawiya I article and collecting the information and going through hundreds of books. The Muawiya I article is related to the "First Fitna" article and the "Battle of the Camel" articles. We spent a lot of time on it. I put some of the background information on the "First Fitna" article and the "Battle of the Camel" article but Zabranos removed it. I don't have the time to edit war and don't want to edit war. I have a busy work schedule and already spend a lot of time in the evenings going through hundreds of books collecting information. Adjwilley if you have some time, can you please review every things. Adjwilley, since you are the admin, I don't mind what decision you make or what changes you make. We just need to make sure that the articles are accurate, neutral and not offensive to anyone. Thanks --Johnleeds1 (talk) 20:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

He replied:

You might be interested to know that User:Zabranos was blocked today for abusing multiple accounts. (See here for details.) It looks like they were blocked for a week, so things should calm down a bit on that front. I'll have a look at the articles tomorrow, though I'll warn you, this isn't my area of expertise. ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:41, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for the positive attitude

Pass a Method talk 11:16, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for help in Muhammad Abduh page

Thanks--Ashashyou (talk) 05:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your envigilation, actually. The site really needs more people willing to watch biography articles on Middle Eastern people. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Bin Baz page naming

I see you have commented on this issue before, and I have opened a new discussion about how to resolve the fact that the page name and the name in the article do not agree with each other. I encourage you to add your voice. --Jprg1966  08:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Commented. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Interest

This discussion may interest you. Pass a Method talk 09:39, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Watch list

Please could you add List of casualties in Hussain's army at the Battle of Karbala to your watch list. There is an editor who keeps deleting mention that Hussain ibn Ali's father was 4th Caliph. The editor gives different explanations for the deletion. You may wish to express an opinion on the subject on the talk page.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Assalamu Alaikum

Please help these articles Template talk:First Fitna and Talk:Riyadh As-Saaliheen. Thank you. Ibensis (talk) 01:45, 24 November 2013 (UTC)