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Recent addition
I have removed the text added on the 16 January 2023 for two reasons. One, the content is not related to the city of Pristina at all. Two, the text is touching on the subject of the origin of Albanians, a subject that is well covered on its own Misplaced Pages page (see: Origin of the Albanians). Its presence in the lead of this article without any discussion in the article is POV pushing. ElderZamzam (talk) 04:49, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'll agree with that one, my changes on the etymology will remain thought. If, however, you disagree we should reach a new consensus before edit-warring. AlexBachmann (talk) 22:12, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Conflict about edits
Evening @HoneymoonAve27, I wanted to discuss the issue about our recent edits.
I've already explained why I removed the quotes:
- obsolete, low quality and not reliable sources.
You do not have to answer to this if you want me to revert your edits without further discussing. AlexBachmann (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- The Serbian Literary Cooperative is certainly not an unreliable source. — HoneymoonAve27 (talk) 11:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- I removed the 1913 source per WP:AGEMATTERS. It's an old and unreliable source. The relevant Ottoman defters which were published in the 1970s show that before the Ottoman era, Prishtina was just a small village and remained so for quite some time. The 1913 contradicts the main body of the article which explicitly argues that all contemporary sources describe it as a village before Ottoman urbanization.
- Vinča culture is a Middle Neolithic culture, not a Paleolithic one.--Maleschreiber (talk) 19:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
I will remove the parts that we've been conflicting on on grounds of age matters and lack of reliablity. AlexBachmann (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
We can also use the second source and write "according to Serbian sources" because it does not fall under age matters. AlexBachmann (talk) 01:59, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- I have had an extensive read and I can only find sources describing Pristina as a royal court for Stefan Dušan. I found no sources describing it as a royal court for Stefan Milutin, Stefan Uroš III, Stefan Uroš V nor Vuk Branković. Given that John VI Kantakouzenos met Stefan Dušan in Pristina in 1342, it demonstrates that a court was there. If you have conflicting sources, please list them. ElderZamzam (talk) 03:06, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- @ElderZamzam: Stefan Dušan had no "royal court" or even a capital, his "court" was wherever he was at the time of the meeting. There is no court palace or any other structure in Pristina which would suggest even a small "court". Guylas (2021):
Under Dušan’s reign Kosovo became the central part of the Serbian state. When investigating the political sphere, it can be stated, that the political centre was moved from Raš to Priština, then to Prizren, eventually to Skopje.
--Maleschreiber (talk) 11:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- @ElderZamzam: Stefan Dušan had no "royal court" or even a capital, his "court" was wherever he was at the time of the meeting. There is no court palace or any other structure in Pristina which would suggest even a small "court". Guylas (2021):
Note
@AlexBachmann: Greeting. A note when mentioning Kosovo as a country is always added to the infobox and the article itself (which you already know, but okay). This has already been discussed before when determining the use of this note. This applies whether it is a city, a lake, a mountain or anything related to Kosovo/Kosovo and Metohija (1, 2). Once again, I would like to take the opportunity to ask you to turn more towards neutrality. — Ruach Chayim (talk) 12:24, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Dejure / defacto
Greeting. I came up with the idea of standardizing the text of the articles on Kosovo (and Metohija) with that of the articles on Northern Cyprus, Transnistria and other "states" that are not members of the UN. So, as in the article of North Nicosia, I think that Kosovo should be added to the infobox as a de facto state and Serbia as de jure. This could also remove the note that explains the political situation in which Kosovo (and Metohija) are. — Ruach Chayim (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
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