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What??

Hi, i'm from the nofap community, and being honest, the comments about nofap are, exagerated to say the least, first of all, almost everyone from the community is not misognist or racist, where did you guys get his from? 2804:1B3:AD83:E9C7:60C9:2F2C:C8F8:2B44 (talk) 20:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Do you have any WP:Reliable Sources backing up that position, or is that your WP:Original Research. Also see WP:MANDY. Cakelot1 (talk) 06:59, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yup, there is a distinction between epistemologically responsible knowledge and WP:THETRUTH. We don't know "the truth", we only know what is epistemologically responsible, as rendered by WP:RS.

If you want "proof", just count the claims of conspiracy from https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/u34ltr/the_double_standards_are_insane/ They basically claim that the articles cited herein are paid by the V.I.L.E. porn industry, and that the tiny world elite is robbing men of their wealth and freedom, mainly through not teaching them that semen retention boosts health and energy (esotericism). tgeorgescu (talk) 13:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

tgeorgescu fyi NoFap moderators are inciting posts on Wiki, claiming pornography paid for this page. Again. This is why there are new posts without any new scientific citations. They appear to be angry about a 2021 article accurately cited in the wiki and plotting to try to get it removed. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/125kj0f/wtf_is_going_on_with_wikipedia_nofap_creates/ Guardsmanmario (talk) 15:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Mainstream society has gone far left. ROFLMAO. "Mainstream society has gone far neoliberal" would be more accurate. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:03, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Pseudoscience

Lets talk about it your all Informations are incorrect No-Fap originally originated from Celibacy more than 5000 years before when people were believing in flat Earth theory. Giving more information about that I was myself a porn addict but after leaving it I experienced change in my life you can ask my Psychologist. Even today's Neuroscience agree to it! Another thing is that before industrialisation even your forefathers including mine when there were no smart phones and TV's. They didn't know too much about faping. They were mentally and physically strong if you still don't believe you can ask Dr. Trish Leigh about this!

https://www.facebook.com/drtrishleigh 106.207.36.194 (talk) 05:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Trish Leigh is:

not a scientist;
not a medical researcher;
not a psychology researcher;
not a sexology researcher.

And porn addiction is a bogus diagnosis, source: DSM-5-TR. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Anyway, my evidence for my claims is this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=leigh+pornography . And neurofeedback is WP:FRINGE. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:06, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the "theory" of "porn addiction" is clearly a crude case of religious hysteria masquerading as science for political purposes. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 16:42, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu I don't think my talk page contributions are recognised as RS by Misplaced Pages quite yet. Though obviously they should -- maybe we should start a RFC to enshrine me in the list of reliable sources. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 21:41, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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In the article it says "NoFap was founded in June 2011 by Pittsburgh web developer Alexander Rhodes after reading a thread on Reddit about a 2003 study, (which was retracted in 2021)". However, this is incomplete as it makes it seem like the retraction was due to a scientific error. On the retraction, it says that it was retracted because it "significantly overlaps with a previously published article in Chinese" Source. Can the line be edited to say "(which was retracted in 2021 due to overlap with another published article in Chinese)"? This helps clarify that it was retracted for reasons other than a scientific error and was just retracted because it was a duplicate of another paper. InTheEnd322 (talk) 02:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:03, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Yup, and generally speaking scientific papers are not retracted for "scientific errors" but for things such as fraud or ethical violations. Bona fide papers do not get retracted, even if considered debunked. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:34, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Women in nofap

The 2014 internet poll cited for the 99% male demographics in nofap is marked as an unreliable source. The other source is an academic paper which cites the poll. A more recent source (2019) is this reporting from the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/09/whats-causing-women-to-join-the-nofap-movement), perhaps this should be updated. Kleinhern (talk) 05:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Neuer Slate artikel über neue wissenschaft und selbstmord

Ist Slate eine zuverlässige quelle? WP:RS? https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/07/nofap-masturbation-reddit-forum-suicide.html. Angurispome (talk) 06:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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