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To-do list for Pristina: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2010-03-25

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Copyedit : some needed
Expand : add sections on education, places of interest, transport, governance, etc
NPOV : it is difficult to tell whether some statements are objective or POV - more use needed of references to reliable sources and reference to/presentation of opposing viewpoints
Verify : needs more inline citations to progress up the quality scale, particularly given the recent history
Other : remove irrelevant material, eg, ref to Ulpiana (it's not even close and it's covered elsewhere!)

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Pristina seems to have been a small village before the late 15th century. ... The first mosque in Pristina was built in the late 14th century while under Serbian rule.

The second claim seems highly improbable in light of the first. Srnec (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Good point. The second sentence is sourced to a travel guide, so it does not meet the WP:RS criteria. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:55, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Expansion of the lead

Why wasn't my edit an improvement, Iaof2017? Let me remind you that the lead is supposed to be an overall summary of the article. --Azor (talk). 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Regarding Prishtina in the 17th century

Sources indicate Prishtina was mostly inhabited by Muslim Albanians in the 17th century as the people became Islamised in the town as shown by 16th century registers too, and I QUOTE FROM THE SOURCE:

The first large town reached by Piccolomini was Prishtina, which had a mostly Muslim population of 3,000 households (roughly 15,000 people); many of these had apparently fled, but one early account states that ‘in Prishtina 5,000 Arnauts, having thrown off the Turks', and many leaders of the surrounding places...swore fealty to the Emperor?* Who were these ‘Arnauts’? Although this word is normally treated simply as a synonym for ‘Albanians, there are (as we shall see) some doubts as to how such apparently ‘ethnic labels were used by West European writers at this time. 'However, the fact that this writer clearly contrasts these ‘Arnauts’ in Prishtina with the people of the ‘surrounding places’ suggests that they were inhabitants of the town—in which case they were mostly Muslims, probably Albanian' but very possibly including some Slavs.

https://archive.org/details/rebels-believers-survivors-studies-in-the-history-of-the-albanians-malcolm-noel-2020/page/133/mode/1up p. 132-133

- Arnaut was a word for Albanian. I don't think it refers to Orthodox Slavs . Part of Eastern Kosovo were possibly majority Slavic which is also indicated by when the Austrians entered that area but the towns were mostly Albanian. Nowhere do they use the word Arnaut for the majority Slavic areas. The Western and some of the central part of Kosovo was Albanian as indicated by sources.

This document from the 17th century says the same thing:

The General rested there for several days to issue orders on matters pertaining to that region, that had submitted to him voluntarily. The reputation of this commander grew more and more because of his orderliness such that 5,000 Arnauts in Pristina who had risen against the Turks and many of the major towns in the vicinity had given to understand that they would submit to the rule of the Emperor. Thus, when he arrived in Pristina, they swore allegiance to the Emperor and at that moment, this large tract of territory came under the shadow of the laurels of His Imperial Majesty.

http://www.albanianhistory.net/1689_Kosovo-Turkish-War/ TheCreatorOne (talk) 21:28, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

This is all taken from 1689-1690 Austrian-Ottoman wars. No, I don't think all Orthodox people in Kosovo were Albanians with Slavic names (As also Noel Malcolm says he doesn't think that) but I think some of the Orthodox population in Kosovo were Albanians who became Islamised. And Catholic Albanians were Islamised too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCreatorOne (talk • contribs) 21:34, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Prishtina The number of inhabitants

Prishtina has more than 193.000 inhabitants. Currently it has around 400.000 in the city and around 700.000 within Metro area. Simply, if you consider that Prishtina in 1991 census use to have 240.000 inhabitants, considering the migration of Serbs which fled Kosovo within Kosovo, meaning that they moved from Prishtina to surrounding areas within Kosovo. Today Prishtina has doubled building (apartment's). The closest estimation was of a Shpend Ahmeti ex-Mayor of Prishtina which has estimated around 360.000 within center not including F. Kosovo around 40.000; Obilic 28.000 Gracanica and Hajvalia around 30.000 and Lipjan 40.000. Than within Metro will be included Besiana/Podujeveo 70.000; Drenas 60.000. 84.22.51.207 (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

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