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Pseudoscience

Lets talk about it your all Informations are incorrect No-Fap originally originated from Celibacy more than 5000 years before when people were believing in flat Earth theory. Giving more information about that I was myself a porn addict but after leaving it I experienced change in my life you can ask my Psychologist. Even today's Neuroscience agree to it! Another thing is that before industrialisation even your forefathers including mine when there were no smart phones and TV's. They didn't know too much about faping. They were mentally and physically strong if you still don't believe you can ask Dr. Trish Leigh about this!

https://www.facebook.com/drtrishleigh 106.207.36.194 (talk) 05:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Trish Leigh is:

not a scientist;
not a medical researcher;
not a psychology researcher;
not a sexology researcher.

And porn addiction is a bogus diagnosis, source: DSM-5-TR. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Anyway, my evidence for my claims is this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=leigh+pornography . And neurofeedback is WP:FRINGE. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:06, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the "theory" of "porn addiction" is clearly a crude case of religious hysteria masquerading as science for political purposes. Random person no 362478479 (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 16:42, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tgeorgescu I don't think my talk page contributions are recognised as RS by Misplaced Pages quite yet. Though obviously they should -- maybe we should start a RFC to enshrine me in the list of reliable sources. -- Random person no 362478479 (talk) 21:41, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Do you know what it's called when a simple phrase like Master of Your Domain propels a formerly niche sitcom into the number one show on television? It's called porn addiction being globally recognized as real. That doesn't mean it's physiological but words have many meanings at the same time. Connor Behan (talk) 18:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

WP:DEM: the large popular masses do not make the call. WP:MEDRS make the call. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:15, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Nope. English is a descriptive language. If you want "addiction" to always mean something medical, you would've had to be around hundreds of years ago to stop millions of people from using it to describe things that are not always medical. Connor Behan (talk) 21:35, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages sides with WP:BESTSOURCES. There is no way around that.

But, technically, that's right: "addiction" is a concept of pop psych, not of mainstream psychiatry. I just don't see how that bolsters the case for NoFap being science-based. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:03, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

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In the article it says "NoFap was founded in June 2011 by Pittsburgh web developer Alexander Rhodes after reading a thread on Reddit about a 2003 study, (which was retracted in 2021)". However, this is incomplete as it makes it seem like the retraction was due to a scientific error. On the retraction, it says that it was retracted because it "significantly overlaps with a previously published article in Chinese" Source. Can the line be edited to say "(which was retracted in 2021 due to overlap with another published article in Chinese)"? This helps clarify that it was retracted for reasons other than a scientific error and was just retracted because it was a duplicate of another paper. InTheEnd322 (talk) 02:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:03, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Yup, and generally speaking scientific papers are not retracted for "scientific errors" but for things such as fraud or ethical violations. Bona fide papers do not get retracted, even if considered debunked. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:34, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Women in nofap

The 2014 internet poll cited for the 99% male demographics in nofap is marked as an unreliable source. The other source is an academic paper which cites the poll. A more recent source (2019) is this reporting from the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/09/whats-causing-women-to-join-the-nofap-movement), perhaps this should be updated. Kleinhern (talk) 05:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Neuer Slate artikel über neue wissenschaft und selbstmord

Ist Slate eine zuverlässige quelle? WP:RS? https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/07/nofap-masturbation-reddit-forum-suicide.html. Angurispome (talk) 06:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Nofappers surely don't get this, but I'm not sure Prause does, either: there are draconian rules for making medical claims within Misplaced Pages, see WP:MEDRS. tgeorgescu (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Biased article

This article portrait nofap in negative light.this article uphold the feminist,pro porn and radical secularist view.be cautious this article and writer is not neutral on this topic 103.137.160.108 (talk) 09:03, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

A simpler point is that the article has WP:MAINSTREAM WP:Academic bias, meaning WP:GOODBIAS.

And "feminist" is close to meaningless, if you don't specify what kind of feminism it is (e.g. Marxist, liberal, conservative).

It's a simple point to understand that mainstream science and NoFap are at odds. tgeorgescu (talk) 13:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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