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Castes

Well mate, I'm not sure I agree. If that category were to be added to the Caste page, I would object. Globally, caste is probably not derived from Hinduism. However, I would argue that castes in the Indian subcontinent were developed in a society that was overwhelmingly Hindu. But if you want to make another article, you should talk to admin Utcursch. Maybe he can offer some good advice. Cheers. Agoras 03:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Category:Jat people

I don't think anybody will support the deletion -- it will be argued that this is just like other categories ( Category:Assamese people, Category:Bengali people etc.), since Jat people are also an ethnic group. utcursch | talk 04:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ngo Dinh Diem

Hello, Bakasuprman.

We need to discuss your edits. Dr. Mark Moyar (cited in the article) has recently published a history of Vietnam War that makes a convincing case that Diem did not persecute the Buddhists. For example, Dr. Moyar documents that Diem had more Buddhists in his cabinet (8) than any other denomination, that the Buddhist protests only began in May 1963 because of Diem's decision to enforce a long-standing ordinance against all religious denominations, and these protests were perpetuated in part by Communist infiltrators and exaggerated by the media. You may not buy all of this, but I think we need to present both points of view.--VnTruth 19:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Madame Nhu's big mouth caused a lot of mischief. I'll be in touch.--VnTruth 20:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Good evening, B.

I've revised the Buddhist paragraph to make it clear that the assertions contained therein represent one, albeit majority, POV. Let me know if you have any problems with the edits. I'll probably insert a couple of paragraphs stating the revisionist POV (and describing it as such) in the near future. --VnTruth 21:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Indrajit Gupta

I have expanded Indrajit Gupta and submitted it for DYK. Regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 06:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Crveni Krst (Belgrade)

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Traver

Hey, Thank man. Traver Rebello 18:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

i'm not leaving

but i'm exactly happy with what's going on.--D-Boy 20:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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    Wiki Raja

    I have indef-blocked Wiki Raja as a block evading sockpuppet of User:Indrancroos. I came to this decision taking a look at the evidence listed at the RfCU page and discussing the issue with User:Dmcdevit. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

    Hindutva propganda

    Smells of WP:UNDUE ... its aboot the time it is AfD'd... Amey Aryan DaBrood 18:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

    it would help if you can come on Gtalk... Amey Aryan DaBrood 18:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

    Sarathambal

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    Axxn 07:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

    Well, about Indonesia.... the figures given by PHDI ia anyway inflated..... I visited their site.... Not a word in English.... So difficult to get any information..... Like Vietnam.... I have no idea how many hindus are there.............

    Re:Dab

    Hi - I've told user:WIN and now you to not make things personal and emotional. Even though his tone was threatening, Dab was not doing anything wrong when he warned you about the opening of an arbitration case. Dab has his behavior problems, but that is no excuse - if you honestly feel he is causing problems, then pursue proper dispute resolution yourself. The issue of Hindutva propaganda will be decided by the AfD debate consensus. Rama's arrow 16:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Shahbag

    I have just put the article to peer review. Would you care to take a look? Aditya Kabir 20:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

    Two things

    Firstly, Ragib has requested assistance in one of your favourite areas of writing here at the Hindu Noticeboard.

    And secondly...

    The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
    A Barnstar for the terrific effort you put into creating DYKs! Gizza 11:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


    (Your "Awards" page was looking a little shallow :p)

    Watch it

    Your normal tendency to stretch the truth or make broad, sweeping statements based on no information whatever was on display again here. . I don't edit when logged out. That implies an inability to justify my edits, which I never display, unlike others. Hornplease 19:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

    Thanks for your support

    . ←Humus sapiens 23:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

    Summary of Devadasi arguments

    Just as a disclaimer, I have to say that I know close to nothing about the caste structure in India, or really that much about Devadasis. I became involved because there was a whitewashed version being forced in by a Hkelkar sockpuppet awhile back. Furthermore, the two users have very difficult to understand arguments, but here goes:

    • Mudaliar showed up one day and added a poorly structured rant about Kaikolars (apparently a caste) yielding devadasis. He originally sourced this with 'google searches' and used a lot of bold text. Now he is more organized but I still don't see his arguments as making sense. He cites a few sources that discuss some Kaikolars in South India giving girls to be devadasis by tradition. He also attaches this to the Chola empire, saying that they helped the Chola empire gain prominence. While it seems his sources are good, I cannot check them (obscured by registration) and have the feeling that he is gravely misinterpreting them. To get to the point, Mudaliar is taking sources discussing some devadasi traditions in parts of South India and purporting this to mean that Kaikolars are the 'source' of devadasis for all India. He further asserts that Kaikolars are the same as some other caste (Segunthar or Isai-Vellar, something like that). For one, I'm rather certain that devadasis don't all originate only with the Kaikolar, and his sources didn't seem to be supporting that, so I moved the information into a more specific section. I mean, if they exist all over India, it is implausible that they are 'made' in Kaikolar-land and then shipped all over the subcontinent!
    • Venki123 seems to take particular offense to one of the caste 'equations' that Mudaliar makes, saying that he is misportraying one of those castes as the same as Kaikolar. He further asserts that Mudaliar is doing this to take the devadasi-shame off of one of the castes that Mudaliars are apparently part of. Specifically, he claims that Mudaliar is trying to "slander" the Segunthar caste. Sorry it is very vague; try taking a look at their rants and maybe you will understand better than I.

    Anyway, all I have done so far is move those Kaikolar 'facts' to a specific section. I also called for an expansion to cover more Indian states because Mudaliar said his Kaikolar thing should be universal to the article if no other states are covered. I felt expansion was needed to prevent Mudaliar from carrying his 'universal' misinterpretation back to the more general level. Fortunately, Venki123 obliged and added info about other regions/groups. It isn't sourced correctly but at least it is there.

    Please, try to figure out the deal there. The two are battling over this caste defamation issue across a number of pages and don't appear to stop anytime soon. I'll give Venki123 some credit for actually trying mediation, though he listed an absurd number of parties and so I don't think it will go through. As you know I asked someone on the ANI to review their edits and block them for awhile. It seems to be forgotten by the admins, but hopefully someone will get around to it. Then, you can move in and sort things out. Hopefully then won't sock the page during this time. But come on, of course they will. Anyway, I am sorry about the lack of clarity here but I'm really in over my head at this point. Thanks for taking up the challenge! The Behnam 01:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

    DYK

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    enlightenment

    wikipedians define a troll, and everyone gets the enlightenment . --Bhadani (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

    I thought that you should also get some light. --Bhadani (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
    Another zealot has come to light, it seems, sigh - I am sure you do not sigh much like many others as excessive sighing is dangerous symptoms: ]. --Bhadani (talk) 19:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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    Majorly's RfB

    Hey Bakasuprman, thanks for your kind support in my RfB. Sadly, it didn't pass, but I appreciate the support, and I do intend to run again eventually. Happy editing! Majorly (o rly?) 03:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

    User:Kathanar

    I think it would be better to go for formal dispute resolution. utcursch | talk 04:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

    Hindutva propaganda

    What is your opinion on this, it's a phenomenon ripping Misplaced Pages apart from the seams, with fanatical supporters of Swami Vivekananda and his RSS revising history to make people believe lies. Think of all the children that enter Misplaced Pages and see this revisionist history and will need deprogramming in the future. I commend our maintsream admins. I support the neutrality and common non-OR sense of our admins. By the way, did you know that Swami Vivekananda himself used to write propaganda and publish it in Voice of India. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.178.139.138 (talk) 23:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

    It's called sarcasm baka........your response to these comments suggest you are the anti-Hindu troll. Add that to your list of names if you want....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.178.139.138 (talk) 23:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

    Reversion

    Dear Bakasuprman, you reverted a non-vandalism edit by another user who had provided an edit summary here. It is considered very bad form to use a tool to revert the good faith edit of another user, especially when that user provides an edit summary justifying/explaining their edit. If you are going to revert another editor, please do it manually and use an edit summary explaining why you are reverting. Reverting with an edit tool is solely for undoing obvious vandalism.—Perceval 05:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

    It was not vandalism. You clearly disagree with the other editor, but using a revert tool to undo their good faith edit (even if it was wrong-headed) is poor form. Next time, revert manually and leave an explanation in the edit summary.—Perceval 22:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

    People from Kashmir

    There already exists a Category:People from Jammu and Kashmir and yet another category of Kashmiri people and now you have created another category by name of People of Kashmir.It is unnecessary I feel.;Shyamsunder 12:37, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

    Stop

    Stop violating Wiki policy on Words to avoid.] I already mentioned this to you before, so i dont understand why you keep on doing this. I will revert your edits, and if you continue to do this i will file a complaint against you. IP198 14:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

    But seriously...

    Isn't it a bit broad to include under 'anti-____(religion)' links under the 'see also' section? I removed antisemitism originally since it doesn't really have anything to do with the anti-Hindu prejudices. I have now added the other links since it seems we are simply linking to other religious prejudices, but I'm hoping you will consider changing that approach and removing all three of them. I think we should stick to stuff that actually has to do with the anti-Hindu prejudice. Tell me what you think. Also, you still feel up to devadasi? The Behnam 23:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

    Also, why was this edit characterized as minor with no edit summary? Seems like a 'major' amount of content. The Behnam 23:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
    Please also consider that those three are already linked in the "Discrimination" template on the right. Realizing that I'm going to remove them all, since there is no point repeating them. The Behnam 23:53, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
    Yup I've taken care of the redundancy. Thanks for looking into that devadasi thing, as it is way over my head. And those two users' stupid war is probably going to ArbCom now. It is ridiculous. Anyway, what exactly is going on at the anti-Hinduism page? Just for starters it may help to cut down on non-RS sources, especially for multiply ref'd statements, such as this source . The Behnam 00:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
    Thanks, that is a good start. Generally, I don't think that people will find as many reasons to undo tons of stuff if the stuff itself is sourced well. Hence we keep 'Hindu American Foundation' kind of stuff, and get rid of... whatever that thing was. The 'denigrations' page. The Behnam 00:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

    LOL

    Apparently you are also a Muslim man who "jumped all over" the Mukhtar Mai page. At least I see no other user to be the third man , so I think it is implied. Better add that to your list of accusations! The Behnam 00:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

    See . --Ragib 00:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

    FYI regarding two AfDs

    Namaste. FYI, I nominated Pooja_Kumar_-_Bharatanatyam_dancer for speedy deletion on the basis of spam and non-notability, and only now have noticed that you had made an edit on Pooja Kumar (model) which is also up for deletion. I just wanted to be sure that you were aware that both pages were AfD at the moment in case you wanted to be involved. Best wishes, Buddhipriya 03:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

    I agree with your assessment on the notability. Apparently what happened is that after I tagged the dancer page for speedy deletion, User:Mahayogini, who has been making a lot of unsourced changes to content on various pages, tagged the model page for deletion. You may want to take a look at her edit path. I have placed enough warnings on her talk page already and hesitate to place more. Buddhipriya 03:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

    Alamgir Kabir (filmmaker)

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    Regarding Devadasi

    I just added information about how some Kaikolars were dedicated as Devadasis in South India. I have given more than 10 valid academic references. Venki123 (talk · contribs) is not allowing me to add this information and constantly edit-wars with me on this issue. He further manipulates the "Kaikolar" name at his own discretion. The articles are all research articles and books that quote numerous references to Kaikolar Devadasis and clearly say that the caste name is Kaikolar and they identify with the "Terinja-Kaikolar-Padai" (literally "known kaikolar soldiers" or personal bodyguards in Tamil) in the Chola empire. You can check out the evidence at the or Devadasi:Talk Mudaliar 02:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

    Its just objective. I made an edit to Devadasi backed by valid references. I have just been labelled and swore at with a variety of names after this. I thought the spirit of wikipedia was to make constructive edits. I don't believe my edit "kaikolar Devadasis in South India and Chola Empire" (small compared to other info in Devadasi) is defamatory. You mean to say that my edit is more defamatory than this:?Mudaliar 02:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

    Thanks wrt Setalvad

    Guy seems to want to keep on putting his POV. His edit history shows 'interesting' changes made to several topics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mikeslackenerny (talkcontribs) 03:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

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    Satyanand stokes and vidya stokes

    Hello Bakasuprman you are right, Their relationship- they both are human beings. Just kidding. I never said that they have any relationship. Did I? Thanks Sushant gupta 11:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

    Vidya Stokes is the daughter in law (married to his youngest son Lal Chand Stokes) of Satyananda. Lost 14:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
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