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Look, I edited this by deleting a sentence that went:

"Shortly after arriving in Germany, Rosenberg became a member of the Bayreuth Circle, a racist think tank founded by Richard Wagner."

I deleted this claim because it's fantasy. First, Wagner did not found a racist think tank of any sort. Second, there was never an organisation called "the Bayreuth Circle".

Third, if what is meant is the term (lower case) "Bayreuth circle" to mean people who knew each other because they liked Wagner's music, like Schemann, Chamberlain, Wolzogen, and so on, then we're still in La-La Land, because Rosenberg never had anything to do with that loose-knit group.

If you read Rosenberg's main book, the _Myth of the XXth Century_, you'll realise why that's the last group he'd associate with. Rosenberg was forced to pay some lipservice to Wagner because Hitler liked Wagner's music and Hitler was the boss, but in fact Rosenberg's own book, _Myth_, contains a long, detailed attack on Wagner's works, especially but not only the _Ring_ and _Parsifal_.

In his _Memoirs_, written in 1946, Rosenberg showed that he considered the fact that one politician, Schemm, liked Wagner was one of the indications that he was politically unreliable (too Christian). He also wrote that Hitler should have seen Wagner's _Ring_ cycle as a warning against the path he chose: in pursuing power without right, or justice. But that was in 1946, when he was in jail. When he was powerful, he despised Wagner's _Ring_, saying it was neither heroic nor German , and calling it a failure that would eventually fade away and stop being performed .

So it was an interesting sentence, densely packed with untruth. Hence the deletion.

Laon

Jewish ancestry?

The article claims that Rosenberg was of Jewish ancestry. It's true that his surname is common among German Jews, but I've never seen any evidence that Rosenberg himself had any Jewish ancestry (unlike Heydrich, for whom there is some evidence of it). Is this claim substantiated by research, or is it just an assumption based on his name? If it is just speculation or assumption, it should be deleted. Paul B

Peter Viereck mentioned the Jewish ancestry of Rosenberg and Goebbels in his 1939 book "Metapolitics"

1939? I think a more recent source would be more to the point. Trustworthy information is not likely to be found in 1939. Anyway, the passage has already beeen removed. Paul B 12:40 Mar 28 2005 (UTC)
With the name Rosenberg it is highly likely that he is infact ethnically Jewish.
No it isn't, not in the part of 'Germany' from which he came. Anyway, if he were ethnically Jewish he would hardly be likely to have written The Myth of the Twentieth Century! But the point is that I haven't seen any authoritative evidence at all of this claim. Paul B 11:35 Apr 12 2005 (UTC)
Karl Marx wrote many anti-semetic things in his writings and he was ethnically Jewish.