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Resignation of Justin Trudeau

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Nothing significant compared to previous resignations of Canadian or other international PMs. The article is likely to become a list of reactions, and most of the content can be included in the background of the 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election article. Basque mapping (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 19:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep, no rationale provided for deletion. (CC) Tbhotch 19:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
~~Weak Keep~~Draftify We don't delete an article about what it might become. For now we know Trudeau resigned effective once the leadership campaign for the LPC wraps. That's a notable basis for a WP:EVENT article. But we may find it routine enough to roll into some other article in the future so I reserve the right to change my mind in the future. Simonm223 (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

In light of subsequent comments from SportingFlyer and Ivanvector and reflecting upon my own WP:SYNTH concerns (at article talk for this article) I am changing my !vote to returning this to draft. Simonm223 (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Probably created too soon and probably sent to AfD too soon, we can have another squiz in a week. SportingFlyer T·C 19:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 19:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Speedy merge This belongs at Premiership of Justin Trudeau and Justin Trudeau, not a standalone article. This is or will also be discussed at 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election and 2025 Canadian federal election, and a separate duplicative page is unnecessary. Reywas92 19:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge, probably with either the article for Justin Trudeau or with a separate article. From what I've seen of articles for other notable political resignations, they've always been a part of the article for that person or a larger notable event which the resignation was a part of. I would maybe argue the same for the article on Chrystia Freeland's resignation. Obviously, there are other resignation articles like the one for Pope Benedict XVI, so I'm not fully certain of how the notability policy should be applied, but I still feel that merging would be appropriate.

PaTeKor (talk) 19:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I understand that Benedict's resignation gets to a standalone article, as it was being the first Pope to resign in six centuries. If we are going to take the path of merging, the 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis article could be the target of Trudeau's and Freeland's articles. Nonetheless, at this moment, the article needs a lot of work before the merge can be done. Basque mapping (talk) 19:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I have restored the redirect of this "crisis" article to Resignation of Chrystia Freeland, rather baffling that is was just created as a copy-paste duplicate of that page. However I could potentially support renaming that article (which probably didn't need to exist in the first place either) to incorporate the broader fallout that led to Trudeau's resignation. Reywas92 21:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

(ec) Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Routine resignation that does not require a separate article and can just be covered in Justin Trudeau. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep – Widely-reported, notable resignation that should have its article kept for now. Future discussions can arise on whether a merge into Premiership of Justin Trudeau or Justin Trudeau is necessary. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Close discussion. 1 day is not enough time to determine whether this event has WP:LASTING coverage. -insert valid name here- (talk) 19:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

So why was an article created in the first place? If we don't know if there's enough lasting coverage, the content should go in the existing Premiership of Justin Trudeau article or related pages. Ridiculous comment. Reywas92 21:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election or 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis, per other resignations found in Category:Resignations and the arguments per PaTeKor and Reywas92. Trudeau's resignation after his failures is only just a part of the larger political crisis in the Liberal Party. Per the precedents in other Commonwealth heads of governments: the resignations of Tony Blair, David Cameron, Theresa May, and Thatcher redirect to the successive leadership election, the resignation of Liz Truss redirects to the larger political crisis, and finally Jacinda Ardern's resignation has her own article, but it's likely to be merged into 2023 New Zealand Labour Party leadership election. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 19:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

keep - clearly sufficient details and notability. Mtaylor848 (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep for now - unknown if LASTING will apply. It's been like 16 hours.

Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep - plenty of independent, third-party, reliable sources covering one of the biggest recent events in Canadian politics. Extremely notable event and passes WP:GNG. 2605:B100:10C:C96E:AD8D:62D0:F8B3:44B (talk) 20:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Draftify until NPOV issues can be resolved. As it stands this article is a WP:COATRACK for undue and largely unsourced synthesis of negative opinions about its subject. It's also cherrypicking negative approval ratings: the article notes that Trudeau had the second-lowest approval rating of listed prime ministers but doesn't note that from the same list he also had the second-highest within his tenure. It's also stretching to attach the resignation as a black mark on Trudeau's tenure, as though prime ministers resigning from office is not a common occurrence in Canada: the article notes that nine prime ministers have resigned from office, but omits that only 12 retired after electoral defeat (2 more died in office), so this is in fact rather common and mundane. Ivanvector (/_Edits) 20:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete - all Canadian prime ministers (accept Macdonald in 1891 & Thompson in 1894) resigned from office. GoodDay (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect into Justin Trudeau#Resignation and merge the information this article has that the section doesn't into the section. --SpectralIon (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep Major political event in Canada and has made international news. PM’s resigning mid-term in Canada is rare (last one was over two decades ago), and Justin Trudeau is one of the most noteworthy world leaders right now. Precedent to keep includes articles such as the Resignation of Jacinda Ardern & Resignation of Chrystia Freeland (both of whom are less noteworthy than Trudeau, considering he is the leader of a G7 nation.)

Factchecker72946482 (talk) 21:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The article says nine PMs out of just 23 have resigned midterm, how is that rare? Two decades ago was just three PMs ago. Yeah Trudeau is noteworthy, that's why there's a whole article on his premiership! Doesn't mean everything he does need another article! There's a merge proposal for the Ardern page, and I question the need for the Freeland page as well (merge it to 29th Canadian Ministry#2024 shuffle and crisis or rename it to cover the broader tumult in this Canadian government). Reywas92 21:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete - Where's the article for the resignation of the President in Bhutan, Brunei, Burundi, Sao Tome and Principe? This is just another example of the euro and americancentrism I see on this site. Why do we see indifference to African nations but quickly applaud and make articles on European and North American leaders when they peacefully resign according to law. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep, serious consequences for the world and the G7. User:Rushtheeditor User talk:Rushtheeditor 23:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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