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Resignation of Justin Trudeau

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Nothing significant compared to previous resignations of Canadian or other international PMs. The article is likely to become a list of reactions, and most of the content can be included in the background of the 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election article. Basque mapping (talk) 19:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 19:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep, no rationale provided for deletion. (CC) Tbhotch 19:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
~~Weak Keep~~Draftify We don't delete an article about what it might become. For now we know Trudeau resigned effective once the leadership campaign for the LPC wraps. That's a notable basis for a WP:EVENT article. But we may find it routine enough to roll into some other article in the future so I reserve the right to change my mind in the future. Simonm223 (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

In light of subsequent comments from SportingFlyer and Ivanvector and reflecting upon my own WP:SYNTH concerns (at article talk for this article) I am changing my !vote to returning this to draft. Simonm223 (talk) 20:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Probably created too soon and probably sent to AfD too soon, we can have another squiz in a week. SportingFlyer T·C 19:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
That being said, I'd prefer to draftify or merge at this time until WP:LASTING is satisfied. SportingFlyer T·C 02:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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Speedy merge This belongs at Premiership of Justin Trudeau and Justin Trudeau, not a standalone article. This is or will also be discussed at 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election and 2025 Canadian federal election, and a separate duplicative page is unnecessary. Reywas92 19:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge, probably with either the article for Justin Trudeau or with a separate article. From what I've seen of articles for other notable political resignations, they've always been a part of the article for that person or a larger notable event which the resignation was a part of. I would maybe argue the same for the article on Chrystia Freeland's resignation. Obviously, there are other resignation articles like the one for Pope Benedict XVI, so I'm not fully certain of how the notability policy should be applied, but I still feel that merging would be appropriate.

PaTeKor (talk) 19:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I understand that Benedict's resignation gets to a standalone article, as it was being the first Pope to resign in six centuries. If we are going to take the path of merging, the 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis article could be the target of Trudeau's and Freeland's articles. Nonetheless, at this moment, the article needs a lot of work before the merge can be done. Basque mapping (talk) 19:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I have restored the redirect of this "crisis" article to Resignation of Chrystia Freeland, rather baffling that is was just created as a copy-paste duplicate of that page. However I could potentially support renaming that article (which probably didn't need to exist in the first place either) to incorporate the broader fallout that led to Trudeau's resignation. Reywas92 21:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

These articles are all just one long process that culminated in Trudeau's resignation and should all be at one article, similar to the October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis and July 2022 United Kingdom government crisis for Truss and Johnson's resignations as UK PM amid similar internal party crises. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 22:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Consider this an affirmation to merge to that title; we really don't need much of this article, which just sums up a resignation speech along with the usual other party's 'responses' which are so WP:MILL and what usually happens in a parliamentary democracy. Nate • (chatter) 23:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

(ec) Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Routine resignation that does not require a separate article and can just be covered in Justin Trudeau. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep – Widely-reported, notable resignation that should have its article kept for now. Future discussions can arise on whether a merge into Premiership of Justin Trudeau or Justin Trudeau is necessary. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Close discussion per WP:RAPID. 1 day is not enough time to determine whether this event has WP:LASTING coverage. -insert valid name here- (talk) 19:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

So why was an article created in the first place? If we don't know if there's enough lasting coverage, the content should go in the existing Premiership of Justin Trudeau article or related pages. Ridiculous comment. Reywas92 21:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Just because we don't know if there's enough lasting coverage doesn't mean we should assume there isn't. Whether keeping an article should be the "default" feels more like a question of inclusionism vs deletionism, an argument of which every editor has an opinion by now and that seems to be unable to be settled any time soon. However, considering this article has no serious BLP issues and is well-sourced, there appears to be little harm in keeping it for a few days until the state of lasting coverage becomes more clear. I am reminded of the article for Maxwell Azarallo's self-immolation, which was nominated for deletion before he even was declared dead; at that point, it was unclear whether, like Aaron Bushnell's self-immolation, it would sustain lasting coverage. However, a month later, that coverage did not materialize, and editors voted to redirect. -insert valid name here- (talk) 23:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election or 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis, per other resignations found in Category:Resignations and the arguments per PaTeKor and Reywas92. Trudeau's resignation after his failures is only just a part of the larger political crisis in the Liberal Party. Per the precedents in other Commonwealth heads of governments: the resignations of Tony Blair, David Cameron, Theresa May, and Thatcher redirect to the successive leadership election, the resignation of Liz Truss redirects to the larger political crisis, and finally Jacinda Ardern's resignation has her own article, but it's likely to be merged into 2023 New Zealand Labour Party leadership election. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 19:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

keep - clearly sufficient details and notability. Mtaylor848 (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep for now - unknown if LASTING will apply. It's been like 16 hours.

Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep - plenty of independent, third-party, reliable sources covering one of the biggest recent events in Canadian politics. Extremely notable event and passes WP:GNG. 2605:B100:10C:C96E:AD8D:62D0:F8B3:44B (talk) 20:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Draftify until NPOV issues can be resolved. As it stands this article is a WP:COATRACK for undue and largely unsourced synthesis of negative opinions about its subject. It's also cherrypicking negative approval ratings: the article notes that Trudeau had the second-lowest approval rating of listed prime ministers but doesn't note that from the same list he also had the second-highest within his tenure. It's also stretching to attach the resignation as a black mark on Trudeau's tenure, as though prime ministers resigning from office is not a common occurrence in Canada: the article notes that nine prime ministers have resigned from office, but omits that only 12 retired after electoral defeat (2 more died in office), so this is in fact rather common and mundane. Ivanvector (/_Edits) 20:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete - all Canadian prime ministers (accept Macdonald in 1891 & Thompson in 1894) have resigned from office. GoodDay (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect into Justin Trudeau#Resignation and merge the information this article has that the section doesn't into the section. --SpectralIon (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep Major political event in Canada and has made international news. PM’s resigning mid-term in Canada is rare (last one was over two decades ago), and Justin Trudeau is one of the most noteworthy world leaders right now. Precedent to keep includes articles such as the Resignation of Jacinda Ardern & Resignation of Chrystia Freeland (both of whom are less noteworthy than Trudeau, considering he is the leader of a G7 nation.)

Factchecker72946482 (talk) 21:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The article says nine PMs out of just 23 have resigned midterm, how is that rare? Two decades ago was just three PMs ago. Yeah Trudeau is noteworthy, that's why there's a whole article on his premiership! Doesn't mean everything he does need another article! There's a merge proposal for the Ardern page, and I question the need for the Freeland page as well (merge it to 29th Canadian Ministry#2024 shuffle and crisis or rename it to cover the broader tumult in this Canadian government). Reywas92 21:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree, and as I also stated in my own argument, the US had a similar when President Joe Biden dropped out of the 2024 race. Biden’s article Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election is still up and can also be used a precedent to keep Trudeaus article up as well Phx3216 (talk) 01:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete - Where's the article for the resignation of the President in Bhutan, Brunei, Burundi, Sao Tome and Principe? This is just another example of the euro and americancentrism I see on this site. Why do we see indifference to African nations but quickly applaud and make articles on European and North American leaders when they peacefully resign according to law. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

If you can come up with WP:SIGCOV for those events to fill out an article then by all means, be my guest. WP:BEBOLD. The fact that nobody has written articles on those events doesn't mean this event isn't notable enough for an article. RachelTensions (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I’m starting to question whether SSCG needs some sort of tempban from projectspace in order to better understand PAGs, because between their behavior here, at ITN/C, and their attempted deletion of WP:TDS, they don’t seem to. The Kip 01:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Those events are not very noteworthy outside of their respective nations as those nations are not world superpowers like Canada, the US, and most of Europe. Nasdaqpic (talk) 01:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

May I point you to this way? Yes, we should fight systematic bias, but that should take the form of, if you'll permit me a somewhat pompous analogy, building the valleys up rather than tearing the mountains down. Cremastra (u — c) 02:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep, serious consequences for the world and the G7. User:Rushtheeditor User talk:Rushtheeditor 23:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep notable event, the article is fully fleshed out and will likely become more fleshed out in the coming days and weeks. RachelTensions (talk) 21:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect preferably to Justin Trudeau#Resignation and merge any relevant information. We can wait to see if there becomes a need for a separate article - but it appears there are a bunch of articles that already provide context for the resignation, such as 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis. It is unnecessary to create separate articles for every event. --Enos733 (talk) 21:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep. Obviously meets notability standards with the amount of coverage. The issue is whether a separate article is required or not. Resignations by prime ministers not following an electoral defeat/defeat via on-confidence are relatively rare and that's reflected by the content of the article, since some of the encyclopedic material there would not be suitable for inclusion in some of the proposed targets (e.g. opposition parties' positions on the resignation, specific quotations from the speech, detailed summary of caucus group statements). Ideally, this should all be merged into one parent article such as 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis along the Resignation of Chrystia Freeland article, similar to how we have the July 2022 United Kingdom government crisis for Boris Johnson and October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis for Liz Truss. However, that does not require deletion and should be discussed on a talk page. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 21:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
In terms of merging, I would probably suggest moving this to a the political crisis title, and merging an appropriate amount from the Freeland article, which is probably already overly detailed and will in terms of long-term significance will be subsumed as part of the overall crisis that culminated in today's events. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 00:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete due to WP:TOOSOON. Trudeau did not actually resign today but merely announced a potential future resignation after a leadership election takes place. We do not know yet whether the resignation will actually happen. There is national (and family) precedent for such resignations never actually happening--for example, the 1980 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election never actually happened, and the elder Trudeau stayed on as leader and won another election. Of course, there was pressure on P. Trudeau to stay on due to the 1980 election, but there is considerable pressure to hold an election soon now as well, and it remains to be seen whether it will actually be possible to hold a leadership election in the current context. Alternatively we could Move to 2025 Prorogation of Canadian Parliament since, unlike the resignation which is a speculative future event, the prorogation really did happen today. Dash77 (talk) 22:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Prorogation is very routine, and happens in almost every Parliament. That aspect can be mentioned in 44th Canadian Parliament. Nfitz (talk) 22:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Michaëlle Jean herself did not consider the prorogation in 2008 to be routine. See for example Gov. Gen. Jean explains 2008 prorogation. However there are AFAIK no reliable sources saying today's prorogation was anything but routine so, unless and until there are, it is probably WP:TOOSOON to create 2025 Prorogation of Canadian Parliament much as it is also WP:TOOSOON to create Resignation of Justin Trudeau. Dash77 (talk) 23:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete, it's way too soon. Misplaced Pages needs to get out of the habit of letting poor articles stay up that (I agree with others here) serve only as COATRACKs and NPOV violations, just in the hopes that they eventually have LASTING notability. Not every news story needs its own article, and like many others, this one can be sufficiently covered in the articles for Justin Trudeau, the Ministry, or the Parliament, or as others have suggested an article about the entire crisis if that becomes necessary due to size/amount of information (which is unclear yet). And again, please guys, stop trying to create independent articles ASAP on every news story that can be, at least temporarily, covered in other articles. There is no rush to create articles. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 22:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Adding on that while it likely needs its own AfD at this point (since this one has too many comments to add it on here), I also support deleting Resignation of Chrystia Freeland for the same reasons. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 22:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete - there's no reason this can't be covered by Justin Trudeau#Resignation, the article for the convention, or 44th Canadian Parliament. Also support deleting the even less relevant Resignation of Chrystia Freeland. Nfitz (talk) 22:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The difference, for me, with Resignation of Chrystia Freeland is that Freeland's resignation has actually happened. She was replaced as Finance Minister, at least, by day's end. By contrast, if a Prime Minister wants to resign, then he or she turns his resignation in to the Governor General. Trudeau met with Simon earlier today. He did not resign. If he had he would no longer be PM. That is why I say it is WP:TOOSOON in Trudeau's case. Dash77 (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep The US had a rather similar situation when Joe Biden decided not to seek reelection last year. There is an article detailing the events leading up to and the events following his decision to not seek reelection. As in Biden’s case, the events surrounding his resignation and the ensuing political turmoil it will undoubtedly cause will likely be served best in its own article rather than be merged with another article. Phx3216 (talk) 22:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Arsenal winning 7-0 doesn't happen every day either. Perhaps even less frequently! What policy supports not merging? Nfitz (talk) 00:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Merge Politicians resign all the time, particularly prime ministers in parliamentary systems. Put this information into existing Trudeau articles and 2025 leadership article. Yeoutie (talk) 22:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Precisely Marincyclist (talk) 06:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep per Phx3216. This kind of thing doesn't happen every day and deserves its own article. Urbanracer34 (talk) 23:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Merge with existing current developments in Canadian politics regarding Trudeau & the Liberal Party crisis. I agree with Patar knight that as indicated by the United Kingdom, resignations rarely receive any standalone articles. This will remain a stub, contribute little and serve no value when it could easily be merged. Hauntbug (talk) 23:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep for reasons stated by Phx3216. Minikiwigeek2 (talk) 23:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Merge into Justin Trudeau, Premiership of Justin Trudeau and/or 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election. A summary will also likely be included at Liberal Party of Canada leadership elections#2025 leadership election.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep as this is a major event. No reason to delete, and, as Phx3216 said, this happened last year, and the page is still up. AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 00:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep – This is a major event in Canadian politics deserving of its own article. The arguement that "all prime ministers resign so Trudeau's isn't significant" is garbage and pays no respect to Canadian political customs. A prime minister resigning as they are bound by constitutional convention to do so once they lose an election is not the same as a prime minister resigning following an unprecedented government crisis. The significance of the event, article size, and widespread media coverage exists, so why should this be deleted. RedBlueGreen93 01:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge It does not warrant a standalone article; a comprehensive article could be created that also includes Chrystia Freeland's resignation, titled "The 2024–25 Canadian Government Crisis," for example. Valorthal77 (talk) 01:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge with Resignation of Chrystia Freeland, they are not really discrete events. Article title TBD. The main Trudeau article is large enough and there is enough that happened to justify a standalone article. I T B F 📢 01:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep This article should be kept, whilst it may borderline violate WP:NOTNEWS; which has been referenced before, along with the aforementioned article being "Routine Coverage"; it is clearly in the safe zone and doesn't violate this criteria, and this rule as stated in WP:NOTROUTINE, and WP:N. The article's fate, however is firmly in question along with the Resignation of Chrystia Freeland, as it is TBD if the articles merge and become the 2024–25' Canadian Political Crisis. I support this decision, as both are interlinked with each other, and are the major parts of the aforementioned crisis. If this article should be kept, it would suffice; although it would be optimal if the aforementioned articles are merged sometime after the 2025 Canadian Federal Election, so we can thoroughly contemplate the aftermath of said crisis. That being said, just to clarify; I would support the keep option due to the fact that merging the article's right now would be lacking proper hindsight, but once we get past the 2025 Canadian Federal Election, it would be adequate to consider merging. --- SN102813 (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep as the head of government of Canada suddenly announcing his resignation during a political crisis is a major event with ample amounts of national and international news coverage to meet notability guidelines. Both Trudeau's and Chrystia's resignations are very notable independent parts of the overall political crisis. As time goes on, more information will continue to be added regarding his resignation and its consequences. – Handoto (talk) 02:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep per aboves DeadlyRampage26 (Chat) 04:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep, this is very clearly a notable event and it will remain so. Something like this does not happen very often at all. Contrary to what others are saying I do think that in the long run this article will satisfy WP:LASTING. IncompA 04:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep, he officially announced it, and it is most definitely notable. Félix An (talk) 04:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Merge into Justin Trudeau, Premiership of Justin Trudeau and/or 2025 Liberal Party of Canada leadership election. Marincyclist (talk) 06:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Merge into Premiership of Justin Trudeau and Justin Trudeau or delete: The topic meeting the WP:GNG (which it does) is not the only question here; not everything with wide news coverage needs a separate article, and there's no evidence this event needs one either. The Canadian prime minister's resignation having a standalone article would not make sense in ten years. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
What guideline specifically states that not all notable events need a separate article? And yes, it would have relevance in 10 years. This is the first time in decades that a sitting Prime Minister has announced their intention to resign, and adds to the very short list of people who have resigned or announced their intent to resign as the sitting Prime Minister. Saying this doesn't need separate coverage is doing a disservice, especially considering the fact that Misplaced Pages is already a heavily-leaning U.S. central platform as is. - Evelyn Harthbrooke (leave a message · contributions) 07:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
No offense but your interpretation of prime ministerial resignations is incorrect. In recent history both Jean Chrétien and Brian Mulroney resigned prior to an election call. Campbell, Harper and Martin did not but that's three out of the last six. It's normal for PMs to resign before an election call. Simonm223 (talk) 12:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
@Simonm223 My intepertation is not incorrect. 1993 to 2003, and 1984 to 1993. That was decades ago at this point, so please don't try and correct me when I'm literally not even wrong. That's rude. - Evelyn Harthbrooke (leave a message · contributions) 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
In the intervening two decades since Chretien resigned there have only been three prime ministers: Martin, Harper and Trudeau. The subject. Justin Trudeau, alone, was prime minister for a decade. When the position changes that infrequently events are going to be chronologically spaced out. It doesn't change that, in the last 40 years, literally half of Canada's Prime Ministers have resigned prior to an election call. Simonm223 (talk) 16:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, and? That doesn't make this event irrelevant. - Evelyn Harthbrooke (leave a message · contributions) 16:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
My point is the circumstances of his resignation are not exceptional. Simonm223 (talk) 16:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I vehemently disagree with your opinion. - Evelyn Harthbrooke (leave a message · contributions) 16:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Just pointing out for what it's worth that Chrétien didn't resign before a general election. He resigned before an upcoming leadership review that he was probably going to lose because Martin had been actively campaigning against him for a decade; Martin won the subsequent general election. Of the 9 PMs that resigned before an election, 4 resigned for health reasons, leaving 5 who resigned because of Cabinet revolts or certain electoral defeat. J. Trudeau might be the first where both are true. Ivanvector (/_Edits) 18:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
We do have 2003-2004 Liberal Party of Canada infighting as a (poorly referenced) article, which seems somewhat analogous to having an article for this (obviously the Chretien-Martin fight was more acrimonious and protracted). -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 20:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
It was a pretty open secret that Chrétien and Martin hated each other as far back as the 1990 leadership convention, but as I recall the full extent of the rivalry didn't fully come out until Martin was already PM and continued trying to eject Chrétien loyalists from the Liberal caucus for the next several years. To this day they don't agree whether Martin resigned from Cabinet or was fired by Chrétien. I don't think Trudeau and Freeland have that level of animosity, and even if they do we may not get an NPOV picture of it for months or years. Ivanvector (/_Edits) 21:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Strong Keep. Incredibly notable event covered at a significant international level; it also throws Canada's current political climate into more uncharted territory so close to the inauguration of a new U.S. president. People voting delete think only certain articles have relevance on Misplaced Pages, yet this is an insanely important world event, as Canada hasn't had a Prime Minister resign in literally decades. This is a strong keep from me. - Evelyn Harthbrooke (leave a message · contributions) 07:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge with 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis. I feel that the two articles cover what is basically the exact same topic. The events that have occurred since 16 December definitely do warrant a separate article, but it's less clear whether it warrants 3 separate ones. Gust Justice (talk) 08:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge somewhere. People resign or retire or step down from jobs all the time, and there's no clear reason why Justin Trudeau's resignation would be such a wildly special case as to require its own standalone article as a separate topic from his BLP and/or the articles about the broader context in which it took place. Bearcat (talk) 14:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong Keep. While not an unprecedented event the way that the Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election was, this is definitely something with WP:SIGCOV and importance to the Canadian political environment within the 21st Century. The article itself needs to be cleaned up, but this deserves to stay. GreenHillsOfAfrica (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep. Indeed notable subject, this AfD is too early to see. Drdr150 (talk) 20:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong keep - significant event in Canadian politics. Moondragon21 (talk) 21:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge. I agree with the other arguments made for merger and especially wish to highlight the comment by Reywas92, namely that this topic will be discussed in detail in other articles. There is minimal utility to maintaining a standalone entry on the topic. TheTrainCrazyMan (talk) 22:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge to 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis (and Justin Trudeau, Premiership of Justin Trudeau, etc as appropriate). Trudeau's resignation isn't the story here; it's common for prime ministers to step down mid-parliament (as another editor noted, nine of the past 23 PMs have), and indeed there's very little to say about the resignation itself, which is why the article is mostly background and WP:MILL reactions from political figures. No, the only reason this is notable is because it's the capstone of an on-going political struggle — and so it should be covered in that context. And, as it stands, we have a page for that already, so there's no need to double up. For comparison's sake, Jean Chrétien was forced out by his party (under different circumstances, mind), but rather than have a Resignation of Jean Chrétien article, we have 2003–2004 Liberal Party of Canada infighting that covers the bigger picture. — Kawnhr (talk) 22:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep Eddy C. Jarrison (talk) 23:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge to 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis because Resignation of Chrystia Freeland has also been merged there. 172.97.141.219 (talk) 01:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Merge to 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis and Justin Trudeau plus Premiership of Justin Trudeau. This event may grow more historic given current events in Canada-US relations, but for now, that's all speculative. Trecorite (talk) 01:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
@Trecorite Yeah but it seems a bit like yellow journalism this title of "political crisis". I haven't seen this term used in the articles talking about Trudeau's resignation. Alexysun (talk) 08:34, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
It's been used by sources from December to now. Same with "political turmoil", but that's not a standard term in Misplaced Pages article titles. -- Patar knight - /_{contributions} 13:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Please note 2024–2025 Canadian political crisis has now been substantially expanded to incorporate the background, Freeland resignation, Trudeau resignation, reactions, and outcome. Many of the keep votes are merely vibes-based that the event is "important", rather than practical consideration for content presention and duplication. Yet another standalone article is simply unnecessary, regardless of the extent that something is a "major event". Reywas92 15:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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