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127.0.0.1 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) -- Jza84 · (talk) 22:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
listen you biased $$$
Stop vandlising sikhism related articles. Your adding shiva in Deh shiva var mohe is foolhardly. Read dasam granth first. Guru Gobind singh has criticised people for worshipping Shiva and his ling. stop adding your pov.Ajjay (talk) 04:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
o brother ! why so much hatred!!
You really hate bhindranwale, Don't you? But you little realise that you are doing the same, what you attribute to him. Maybe it is because you suffered some great loss during punjab militancy. The wounds heal but scars remain.Ajjay (talk) 16:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey thats not true, but what is true is that I do hate dimwits
- Yeah. i guess you have an iQ of 200+. and you are probably a nobel laureate in the making. You start hating bhindranwale, because you have read two accounts of well known historians. I wonder how you manage to live, without having a viewpoint of your own. people like you depend upon accounts of others, and cannot analyse a situation in your own mind. if tommorrow some high profile scientist says that drinking piss is good for health, i would not be surprised, if you are the first in the line to do that. You start rabbling about the intelligence of Bhindranwale, and you are probably comparing him to yourself. you must be a good academic student. But what about your father, or grandfather, or great-grandfather, or great great grand-father. they all must have been extremly cultured and highly educated, and probably spoke twenty languages.Ajjay (talk) 04:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, again! Look, unless you have DIRECT experience of a person or historical event, then and ONLY then does your personal view point carry and credibility, otherwise YES, we all depend on the professional viewpoints of historians and academics as they are unbiased.
Now about Bhindranwale, unlike you I'm not a fan of his or a hater of him, he is dead as is his movement which is replaced by a Capitalist Globalist ideology and its only ideological adversary is radical Islam, now, with hindsight, Mr Bhindranwale is peanuts in todays context(no offence or pun intended) but as with so much of what I saw in the 80's he is confined to the historical texts which should and must be independant of personal/political views.
stop vandalising sikhism related articles.
Please stop vandalizing sikhism related articles. Your additions to some article related to sikhism, as an anonymous IP adress, are vandalism. Stop or you will be reported to be blocked.ThanksAjjay (talk) 05:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- If you wish to talk about Juergensmeyer work, you will need to explain what he really said about bin Laden and Bhindranwale. Currently, you just say "Juergensmeyer compared Bhindranwale to bin Laden". That statement does not offer much insight, and people are left wondering what sort of comparison is made. Also, the BBC link still doesn't work for me, regardless of what computer I try to watch the video on. Is there a transcript or other text alternative that contains the quote you provided? Thanks, Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 17:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
You are again requested not to vandalise
this is a second request to you, not to vandalise articles relating to sikhism. Your additions to Guru Nanak Dev and Deh Shiva Var Mohe amount to vandalism. Please refrain from Vandalism or you will be reported to be blocked.Ajjay (talk) 05:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
If you read Bachitra Natak and Rudra Avatar of the Dasam Granth Sahib, (Written by the 10th Guru) you might, (just might) comprehend the methodology the Guru is conveying vis a vis the entity known as Shiva Shakti. Rudra is another name if the Lord Shiva.
I have noticed you have tried (on several occasions0 to change the spellings of Shiva to Siva but the title of the thread still includes Shiva. Its reference with respect the the 9th Chapter of the Dasam Granth Sahib proves beyond doubt that the concept of 'God' in the time of the 10th Guru was pluralistic, open and inclusive, unlike todays concept which is portrayed by firebrand clerics who maintain that God is monolithic and monoistic and above all political.
- Listen you first need through study of Sikh scripture. If you read Dasam granth, you will find that guru gobind singh has criticised people for worshipping various gods, and shiva was one of them. You can go through the link provided if you want.Ajjay (talk) 10:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
third warning
.If you do not stop vandalising , you will be reported for block.Ajjay (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
You are too opinionated, your views are not important and neither are mine, what matters is that you continuously remove references.
According to the Dasam Granth, the Concept of Shiva is laid out in the 9th Canto. Whatever your political views are, are irrelevant.
The Vedic and Pre Vedic references are apparent all over Indological texts.
Thanks Dave
- It seems that our friend Mark Juergensmeyer praised highly of Mahmood's book. Furthermore, her political views shouldn't disqualify her academic opinions. I think attribution is fair enough in this case. Also, I think you should give Bhindranwale the credit he deserves. Through his speeches, he got thousands of Sikhs to follow along with his campaigns. To me, that requires some level of mastery of language. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 02:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
You could say the same about Osama except he gets even more support? You the point I'm trying to make?
- Well, no one has said that about Osama, since Westerners presumably don't know where he is. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 02:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
March 2008
This is the only warning you will recieve. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Dasam Granth. Will 02:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Invalid warning. The edit was perfectly legitimate. However, your attack page at User talk:24.201.145.210 was unacceptable. If you continue to make personal attacks, you will be blocked. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 02:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Point taken Nish, its just that I get the same, know what I mean, Dave
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