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Powerline

Is is really NPOV to delete Powerline (blog) reference in the Terri Schiavo article because you believe it is not credible? Powerline was involved in breaking the Killian documents story and is a legitimate blog site. You should not have deleted the link without discussion. Thanks. 24.18.59.229 06:31, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Yes, it is NPOV to do so. --AStanhope 18:49, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Howdy

Howdy in return... :) Did I catch your random online attention? --- Longhair | Talk 09:14, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)=

I've noticed my stubbing on several of your Australian biographic article contributions. It's good to see you spreading yourself around as widely as I do here ;)~ -- Longhair | Talk 10:38, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

de-linking

Hi, I noticed your comment on the Terri Chiavo talk page regarding overlinking. The server is a bit slow tonight and I haven't seen the before and after, but I quite familiar with the general problem -- at least I think it is a problem. There is even a page dedicated to it: Misplaced Pages:Make only links relevant to the context which many users disagree with (see the Talk page for further discussion). My own feeling is that internal links should be based on some kind of higher-level relationship, and I have waged battles against overlinking but it is definitely a minority position; people here like to link everything simply because it is possible. I've even seen complaints that an article didn't have enough links -- I kid you not. I do draw the line with simple English nouns; if I things like "water" and "sand" linked, I de-link them. And of course redundant links. Take care. -- Viajero 23:12, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

RFC

I have filed a request for comment on NCdave. You can visit the page by going here. I have left this message on your talk page since you have been involved in the dispute resolution process regarding his edits in the past. Mike H 11:30, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I sympathize with the labors of trying to keep an article NPOV, especially when the tiniest of minorities insist otherwise. Mike H 01:07, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

pitching (again) at the windmills

Amigo, I have another, most likely Quixotic cause for you: the recent proliferation of series boxes and the like.

Check out this article: Erskine Hamilton Childers.

As you will notice, there are five template boxes, not including of course categories. Given the modest dimensions of the text, the boxes appear take on more importance than the text itself.

Worse, look at the redundancy:

• the information in the "President of Ireland" box at the bottom is duplicated in the large template box on the right
• the "Tánaiste" box duplicates the information in "Tánaistithe na hÉireann"

Ok, the "Cabinet Minister" box isn't redundant, and provides lots of links, but does it really add anything essential?

Just like adding wikilinks, people seem to add these boxes simply because it is possible.

Thing is, basically I like graphic elements, like images, lists, that break up otherwise visually boring, monolithic blocks of text, but they have to be used with taste and clear purpose.

Ah well, probably another losing battle. :( -- Viajero 20:40, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Delinking dates

I saw your delinking at Amber Brkich and I just wanted you to tell you to look at the Manual of Style regarding dates. While I don't care either way for most of your delinking, I just want you to realize that the years are supposed to be wikified so that people's date preferences are followed. --Ricky81682 (talk) 05:05, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Opoid abuse

The section is not about opoid use, but abuse. I am not a proponent of the idea that drug use is abuse, and in fact, I am currently working on the drug abuse and substance abuse articles to dispel that myth. Unfortunately, Guttlekraw (talk · contribs) is on a mission to remove the term "drug abuse" from the Misplaced Pages, and he has gone so far to change direct quotes from studies, books about drug abuse, and clinical experiments. In the context of abuse his changes do not make sense, and it should be evident that he is not editing in good faith. Please consider a self-revert. --Viriditas | Talk 01:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. --Viriditas | Talk 01:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It appears that you have stumbled into a dispute between V and I. Please let me assure you that despite his rant, I am simply trying to use the terms 'use' and 'abuse' in their correct places. Where we are simply talking about people using drugs, using the term 'use', and where we are talking about a medical or legal situation citing who claims that the use is 'abuse'. Would appreciate your help on this, Guttlekraw 18:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hooray!

Your bestest favoritest buddy ever NCdave is back, unsurprisingly on the Terri Schiavo page. And he has a friend. Proto 11:25, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Don't know. Maybe he's turned over a new leaf *giggle* Proto 08:22, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Delinking...again; Schiavo...again.

Thanks for taking the abstractappeal.com link out of the article. At first blush it would appear to be simple delinking as is your passion. However, and you may not know this if you haven't been following it, I believe it got placed in the advocacy sites area by an editor who's trying to justify including his own websites (yes, plural) in the advocacy area by putting abstractappeal.com there, too. It's a long story. Anyway, double word score for you. Thanks. Duckecho 04:28, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

In case Duck Echo didn't notice, I was making a modification that would benefit another person besides myself, so I don't see why he criticized me; maybe my link wasn't the best idea, as you pointed out that it would advertise a law firm, but I did not link one of my own website, even though, as a major participant who did better in court than the Florida Governor, I would have been justified. --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 10:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Anyway, linking the abstract appeal website is the same as linking the author's web page, as far as advertising law forms goes: They both point towards the lawyer who wrote it. --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 10:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Let Duck be on note that posting another person's link is not promoting my site: Posting links to my site would be. It is indeed a long story. Now, how would this link I added be advertising this law firm any more than the link that was already there? --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 10:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

answering Adam

answering Adam: --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 23:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Your comments on Talk:Terri Schiavo

FWIW, I don't think Gordon is "crazy" or playing pranks. My gut feeling tells me that he's a newbie and could benefit from some patient advice if he is to improve as a user. Or not. --Viriditas | Talk 06:34, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

I think he's crazy... He obviously means well and I agree that he could likely benefit from some patient advice and that he will likely improve as a user. Listen - I'd prefer a nut to a zealot any day. There doesn't appear to be a mean-spirited bone in his body. I think that he'll allow himself to be reigned in here once he has a better understanding of how things are supposed to work. --AStanhope 11:12, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Or not. --AStanhope 11:25, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Massachusetts template - Plymouth, Massachusetts

Apparently someone thought the cities list was inaccurate and had POV issues. The result was that the person had the cities list eliminated. To address that concern, I reverted back to an earlier list of cities and made a notation of it in the "discussion."

You can still see the Massachusetts template at the Boston article. If you feel that more cities could be added to the list, feel free to do so and place the template in the corresponding city articles. For towns, please place them in a separate listing in the template (see the template for Washington state. I think that template is a good example).Pentawing 18:00, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Many Thanks

Thanks for supporting my RFA. It couldn't have happened without your effort. FeloniousMonk 17:50, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

No Problem

No problem, we have been fighting the troll for several days and no admis seem to be interested in the issue. It is clearly one individual and he just keeps reverting to his own crackpot version. The user has reverted at least 50 times and there are at least 5 different editors reverting his edits --Gorgonzilla 17:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

User 67.18.109.218

I see that you've scolded and warned User 67.18.109.218 for obnoxious behavior. This user made an unfounded "Sockpuppet" accusation and vandalized my User page. He/she should be blocked. --AStanhope 17:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Adam. I see they did, sorry about that. But I'm not ready to block the IP right now, since I warned him/her I'd block them if they made more nuisance edits, which they haven't so far. Bishonen | talk 19:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)