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Changing text, which previously read: "Vincent Damon Furnier (born February 4, 1948), better known as Alice Cooper" ... "Furnier officially changed his own name to Alice Cooper" -- i.e., if he has legally changed his name then he is not "Vincent Furnier", better known as "Alice Cooper".

Is there a reference showing that his name has been legally changed? I had not heard or seen that outside of Misplaced Pages. -- WCFrancis 18:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
This information is confirmed (without a date or other information) on the official Alice Cooper Website. -- ROYGBIV 04:40, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Heads

"decapitated human heads" are they real heads or fake ones? what did he do with them? Jm51 08:07, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

They are fake decapited heads. An Alice Cooper concert, is not just a concert, but it is very theatrical. I will be an Alice fan forever!

Ancestry

Alice Cooper is of French ancestry: http://www.miquelon.org/famous/index.html

The entry appears to have been lifted, including typoes, directly from an entry in Yahoo movies. -- WCFrancis 18:49, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
Notice is name is Furnier. That would be pronounced Furni-aye. You can't say that's not French. Redwolf24 05:59, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes, the name is French but no more than 3% of his ancestry is French. He is over 90% British (Irish/Welsh/English). His French Huguenot Fourniers settled in Maryland before the Revolution and once here, did not marry into other French families. They may have been in London before their arrival on these shores but being Protestant, certainly never touched foot in Quebec or New Orleans. Questors 04:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Hall of Fame

In "2000s" the final paragraph reads:

 "Cooper has still not been inducted - on balance, unjustifiably, into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."

I am a huge fan of Alice Cooper - I agree that he should be inducted. In spite of this, my opinion is that this fails to be NPOV.

I also question listing awards or honors that the subject of the article has not won as being appropriate to an encyclopedia entry.

WCFrancis 12:35, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Need info on his movies. Monster Dog!

Wikiquote

There used to be a box to Wikiquote by Cooper, where'd it go? Also where's a picture of him that used to be here??? Redwolf24 8 July 2005 03:30 (UTC)

Photograph

Thanks to Redwolf24 for asking about the photograph. The one that is currently shown is fairly current (only a year or two old, I'd guess) but it really doesn't capture much about Cooper. I'd either go with a current one that is more engaging, or with a classic mid-70's image that captures him at his commercial peak. So who's got one with a clear copyright? -- ROYGBIV 04:45, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

External links

Is ther a reason the external links were removed? - Anon

Trilogy Complete

I have taken the liberty of correcting the "2000's" article to mention the completion of the "Brutal Planet" and "Dragontown" trilogy with the release of "Dirty Diamonds" earlier this month (August 2nd).

Dirty Diamonds has nothing to do with Brutal Planet or Dragontown. --EvilCheeseWedge 19:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh, whoops. Sorry. I just assumed since it's the latest since Dragontown it was the completion of the trilogy. --SWFan00 17:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


Influence

Many of the bands cited as being influenced by Cooper are about the same age as him, which makes it a bit fishy. Maybe add the Beatles, Stones, Zep, Sabbath, Floyd and Madonna too to the list of his fans? I mean c'mon, KISS, UFO, Priest and Maiden Cooper fans? I don't have anything against him, but when those bands came out he was still pishing in diapers.

Response

That argument falls down when you consider artists and bands can be influenced by their peers. Lennon was influenced by Dylan and vice versa.

Most of Kiss, UFO, Priest and Maiden are younger than Alice so The Coop was hardly pissing in dipers when they came around.

Kiss though musically not in the same league as Cooper got the idea of theatrics from the master who in turn was influenced by Arthur Brown visually and The Doors and Yardbirds musically but what makes the Coop original is he fused the influences and also came up with something new. Something Madonna didn't do when she tried the electric chair.

The bands that came later that were really influenced by him were Guns n Roses and that whole LA Scene of the 1980's

Born-again Christian

I heard somewhere Alice Cooper became a born-again Christian, but haven't verified it. I couldn've swore it was on Misplaced Pages but it isn't on here anymore. I do know that he's a member of Solid Rock (or its chair or something) and that he is indeed a Christian (verified by the interview at the bottom), but I specifically heard "born-again". Maybe I'll Google it. Эрон Кинней 10:54, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

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