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Questions

Did Theresa May really "contribute through her media appearances to Stephen Byer's decision to resign"? Was she really a "success" as Chairman? Maybe she did and maybe she was, but a statement like that needs to be properly referenced otherwise it's not neutral point of view. Shotlandiya 13:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

surely she got a BA in Geography, geting the oxford MA a few years later?Georgeryall (talk) 19:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit request from WilberforceHope, 12 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} !) Maintain removal of heading to 'Accusations of homophobia to gay customers' and references and material re. Theresa May MP regarding her record on gay rights voting record, etc. There is not sufficient evidence to support an accusation of 'homophobia' given that the passage admits a mild record of voting against gay rights. This does not constitute 'homophobia' (claimed in previous edit) and is therefore potentially defamatory if restored.

However, it should be noted that "a mild record of voting against gay rights" is only achieved by her voting for civil partnerships which she immediately voted to water down, to include siblings and other relationships which would have made civil partnerships look increasingly unlike marriage. Without the vote for civil partnerships her record would read "a strong record of voting against gay rights". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jokejerk (talk • contribs) 21:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

The proposed abolition of ID is also a major issue but is not reflected in this article.

Too much 'she', should alternate with 'Theresa', Mrs May. A less impersonal style would help style of article.

Restore edits on Theresa May's shoes, fashion sense, etc. as they are in the common domain and a part of her identity as a politician. Removing these details was pedantic and peevish. Numerous references underline this aspect of May's identity.

The correct style on academic history is 'read Geography at St Hughes, Oxford University' graduated with BA, not 'gained BA, etc.'

Restore edits on Theresa May being most powerful British politician. This is asserted on the BBC and other media.

References to current mainstream media articles and May's current Tory Party entry lacking. Bad old links need updating.

Maintain a balance of issues related to May's career. Explore other issues, e.g. good standing after MP's expenses scandal.

WilberforceHope (talk) 19:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I would predict pretty confidently that as soon as such a separate article was created, it would be suggested that the content be merged back into this article. It's a notable fact about her career that in her new appointment she replaces Chris Grayling, there is widely documented print media discussion about the controversy that lead to this replacement, and MPs voting preferences are a matter of public record, hence the information is all easily sourced, not at all subjective or contentious (if it was, then it would be no more appropriate for Misplaced Pages even if put in a separate article). earwicker (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

I zapped the section header, but the material itself seems reasonable to me, although it could use a tidy up. What do you think? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Theresa May grammar school

Tonight on the BBC it was claimed Theresa May is one of the few Cabinet members to attend a comprehensive school. Did the school turn comprehensive whilst she was still a pupil? W66w66 (talk) 22:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes - already mentioned in article.

Edit request from Njlucas, 18 May 2010

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Please change in the initial description current Conservative government to current Conservative Liberal coalition.

Njlucas (talk) 21:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

It's the Conservative – Liberal Democrat Coalition - added, with a link.  Chzz  ►  02:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 Done

Cumria incident (UK)

Request sentence on May's first major speech be left as this is of interest to British readers. Will update and reference this sentence once details of speech are known.WilberforceHope (talk) 06:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Personal wealth

This reference is to a Daily Mail article. Hardly a reliable source, more tabloid gossip. Can't see how this adds to the profile. Should be removed until a more reliable source can be found.WilberforceHope (talk) 20:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

The Mail on Sunday is general sympathetic to the Conservatives. If you have evidence that the article is incorrect, please present it here. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 05:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The claim is questionable. Exactly what are these estimates based on? Perhaps great information, but Glen Owen doesn't tell us. I'm generally fine with news sources, even when turning a passive sentence such as the one we have requires filling in the subject as "anonymous sources", but this story doesn't even reach that level. What's more, its conclusions are questionable. While it is possible that Sir George Young could have a net worth equal to less than the value of his two bits of real estate combined, it is not likely.

What's more, this is unusual for an article like this. Including income totals for the current Cabinet appears, even if it was not the attention, to be pushing a "these people are all a bunch of toffs" POV. -Rrius (talk) 06:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Cumbria, Daily Mail

The Cumbria shootings are hardly of 'undue weight' as they have been in the UK headlines for a fortnight and were May's first major task as HS. Should have been left in introduction.

The Daily Mail is a perfectly reliable source as part of a major media group. It's a published souce and do not remove references just because they don't chime with your POV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.158.252 (talk) 09:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Do not remove reference to carers' registration scheme cancellation again, an issue of headline news. If removed, please reinstate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.158.252 (talk) 13:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Ban unsupported allegations of 'homophobia' from resurfacing and unhelpful twiddling with established pattern of article

It has already been established that statements on May's record of voting on LGBT rights must be brief limited to fact and this article is not a vehicle for the facebook 'sack May' campaign or suchlike. The current content sums up what May had done and said on these issues. Any allegation of 'homophobia' could be viewed as libellous and undue weight must not be given to the gay adoption voting issue, civil partnerships etc.

Also, Theresa May is known either as Mrs May or May. She is not known as Ms May, this form will be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.230.9 (talk) 19:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Do not give undue weight to media news stories. Please use only reliable national media sources tested as safe with anti-virus software. Please do not reference to offensive tabloid-style comments. Please do not fiddle with established wording and layout of article other than typos or incorrect facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.230.9 (talk) 20:52, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

The citation is fine. Off2riorob (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Undue weight is being given to story and does not need three references to say the same thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.230.9 (talk) 20:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Footnotes

Can I suggest that refs. are kept to the short format, not the long 'shopping list' template one and that previous footnotes are not re-formated in this style as it creates a cumbersome layout to the edit page and leaves weird gaps that make re-editing laboursome and disrupts the established footnote convention on this page. There is no fixed format, just keep to the one users have been using on this article.LarkinToad2010 (talk) 06:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I am intending to convert all of the references over to the templated versions at some point, after holidays, this puts all of the information into standard format and contains full information rather than the various non-standard formats we have now. There should always be standard layout for the references whether using template or not rather than different information given in each reference. Keith D (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Can't see the point of the template as this article is frequently updated and its gets in the way and makes editing difficult as it takes up so much space on the edit screen. The main point with referencing is consistency and the form used here on the majority of entries should be followed as it's what most use. The 'short', untemplated form is perfectly acceptable and the template is 'optional' as it states here LarkinToad2010 (talk) 18:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

With or without the templates the format of the footnote should be the same and contain the full information. Keith D (talk) 00:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Just as long as the re-edit is not botched and reference templates, etc. removed and seplling mistaks made.LarkinToad2010 (talk) 07:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Troll editing on this article - pleas stop!

I am making a polite request for Keith D to stop doing botched edits on this article. Keep changing references, templates and dates is unhelpful and the edits are botched. Is this tit for tat for the Hull article? One final request, do not keep fiddle-faddling with my well-researched edits.LarkinToad2010 (talk) 22:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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