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The Remarks About Paula Jones Are Exaggerated And Need To Be Altered

Paula Jones only filed for an appeal and did not prevail. In fact, the Appeals Court was still investigating the case by the time the settlement had been reached. Also, while Susan Webber Wright was a student of Clinton's, it is not worth mentioning. Wright also issued rulings that weren't 100% favorable to Clinton when she presided over the Whitewater investigation, like when she sentenced Susan McDougal to the maximum sentence of eighteen months in prison for contempt of court when she refused to answer three questions about whether or not Clinton lied in his testimony; as mentioned in her Misplaced Pages article.98.240.254.121 (talk) 03:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Sex in the lede

There was a discussion here at the BLP Noticeboard about changing "scandal" to "sex scandal" in the lede. The consensus was to treat the Clarence Thomas lede and this one the same, and therefore include the word "sex" in neither lede. However, because the Clarence Thomas lede now does include "sex," it seems like this lede may as well too. Please keep in mind WP:Spade.

If anyone disagrees, please give more than a two-word explanation. Thanks.108.18.185.163 (talk) 03:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

We don't make editorial decisions in a "if they're gonna do that there, then we're gonna do this here" spiteful manner. At the BLP/N link provided I see a small discussion about the matter, certainly no consensus on the matter as you are claiming. Consensus cannot override core policies of NPOV and UNDUE anyways, and would not allow for this bizarre biographical article linkage that you seem to want. Tarc (talk) 13:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Fine, we will continue to advertise the sexual nature of the Thomas allegations in the lede of that article, and continue to do the opposite in this lede. The notion that it is "spiteful" to mention sex in this lede is incredibly ridiculous, but this is Misplaced Pages after all. Have a @#!*% fine day, Tarc.108.18.182.123 (talk) 15:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

If you have an editing issue with the Thomas article, then that article's talk page is the place to be. I might even be in agreement that "sex scandal" in that article's lead (I detest "lede" for the record) is a bit overboard, but then again the circus that was Thomas' confirmation hearing does feature prominently in his history. It's an interesting discussion to have, but again, shouldn't have a bearing on ol Bubba here. Tarc (talk) 16:00, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Of course it should have no bearing on Clinton, given that he's a liberal Democrat whereas Thomas is not. If we treated them fairly and equally, then that would somehow suggest that Misplaced Pages is a 501c3 nonprofit organization entitled to a tax exemptIon due to Misplaced Pages's nonpartisan nature, rather than a forum for liberal POV-pushing. Oh wait....166.137.9.85 (talk) 17:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Facepalm Tarc (talk) 18:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Productive discussion ended when you said (at 13:44, 31 July 2010) that it would be "spiteful" to treat the two leads fairly and equally, saying in your edit summary that such a request is "bizarre".108.18.182.123 (talk) 01:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

You mean the part where I told you that your editing rationale had no basis in policy or common sense? Ok. Are we done here? Tarc (talk) 17:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

That's right, the part where you ignored WP:SPADE and WP:NOTCENSORED, and where you failed to acknowdge that WP:BLP does not mean "nothing negative or offensive to puritanical individuals". The subject of the article had one of the most famous sex scandals in human history, and yet you want to keep the word "sex" out of the lede? Geez.108.18.182.123 (talk) 02:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.109.159.30, 26 August 2010

please change

becoming the first Democrat since Franklin Roosevelt to win presidential reelection

becoming the first Democratic incumbent since Lyndon Johnson to be elected to a second term and the first Democrat since Franklin Roosevelt to be elected President more than once

because

the term "presidential reelection" is not correct, because

1. The word "reelection" is sometimes used to refer to any election of a current President to another term, including Presidents such as Theodore Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, and Lyndon Johnson who were not elected to their original term. By this definition, Clinton would be the first Democrat since Lyndon Johnson, not the first since Franklin Roosevelt.

2. When it refers to a President of the U.S., the term is "Presidential", with a capital P, not presidential

71.109.159.30 (talk) 16:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Past participle of the verb "be"

Surely Clinton "is" something rather than "was". Yes, his primary fame is routed in his former president-ship, but I thought "was" is reserved for deceased biographies...? Any suggestions how this can be changed? Keith1234 (talk) 16:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.--Bill —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.245.203 (talk) 18:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

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