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Will you please accurately list out the appropriate college that Keith Olbermann attended. He has a communications degree from Cornell's Agriculture college. He did not go to the ivy league Cornell and this is a gross misrepresentation of his collegiate accreditation.
98.201.172.146 (talk) 15:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This has been covered in past discussions. A degree from Cornell's Agriculture College and Cornell University are the same degree, they both read as Cornell University. Akerans (talk) 16:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Akerans, this has been covered in past discussions, true - but it's a little hard to find, since Olbermann's fans constantly edit the article and archive the talk page (and in some cases even zip the text in the archives!) to prevent anyone from finding out that KO went to the Agricultural and Life Sciences college.BuboTitan (talk) 14:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
BuboTitan, I explained all of this to you more than seven months ago. While ignoring the actual reasoning (including RFC's) so you can summarily make shit up regarding other editors' motives may be satisfactory when you're trying to advance an agenda, it certainly doesn't help Misplaced Pages, and it makes it obvious that your interest is more in pushing a POV than respecting community consensus. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 20:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Blaxous, I don't have to make anything up. All anyone has to do is go to this archive page here here and see where you deliberately archived and hid the discussion of this topic (for anyone who wants to check - it's zipped in the middle of the page, labelled by Blaxous as "Irrelevant discussion already subject of extensive consensus". You just need to click on "show" to see it all). I would have fixed that, but I prefer everyone to see how you were deliberately are trying to keep people from reading this discussion. You probably didn't want people to see that there was not, in fact, a consensus on the issue, although you kept claiming it.BuboTitan (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to correct the misconceptions being cynically perpetuated here, the Ivy League is an athletic conference. Cornell University is a member of that conference. All of the students at all of the colleges at Cornell, including the Ag School, the College of Arts and Sciences, the College of Engineering and all the rest have equal access to and are an equal part of Cornell's Ivy League athletic programs. Likewise, the students from the various colleges attend many of the same classes in the same classrooms, sitting side-by-side in front of the same professors. The admissions standards at the various Cornell colleges are known to be similarly high throughout the university. Any attempt to say that the Ag School is any more or less "Ivy League" or any more or less a part of Cornell than any other of its Colleges is a bald-faced lie. Also, it is not common practice for Misplaced Pages to name the individual college in which a bio subject was enrolled when citing his university degree. There's no reason to depart from that practice at this article, least of all the idiotic gibbering of some drag queen whose name escapes me for the moment. BuboTitan knows all this because he engaged in extensive talk page disruption on the subject some months back, which disruption has since been (mercifully) archived (Trust me, you don't want to read it.), not by one of "Olbermann's fans" as Bubo so dishonestly puts it, but by an archiving bot which visits this page occasionally and cleans out old material. Consensus on this has been reached. Misplaced Pages policies are being followed. This is a dead issue. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 18:32, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the official name for the school is the New York State College of Agriculture and Life Sciences at Cornell University and while Cornell is a private university, the Ag school was established by the NY state legislature in an unusual agreement with Cornell, so it's somewhat of an unusual case - that's why it may be worth mentioning. I have no idea if the standards are the same as the rest of Cornell, but if there was no difference, then what's the issue in mentioning it?BuboTitan (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
This discussion is really getting tired. How do Misplaced Pages articles work? References. Currently, there are two references, in this article, which state that Olbermann graduated from Cornell--one of which is The Cornell Daily Sun. If a reader wishes to read these references, they can do so by clicking on them; this is the case on any Misplaced Pages article. Nobody is trying to hide the fact that Olbermann went to the College of Agricultural and Life Sciences, because the College of Agricultural and Life Sciences is part of Cornell. Likewise, nobody is trying to hide any past discussions (this page is automatically archived by a bot, and the archives are easily searched). Chickenmonkey 18:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
The page is archived by a bot, but plenty of users have done their own selective archiving. As far as trying to hide anything, I provide one example in my response to Blaxous above.BuboTitan (talk) 21:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Ahh,so now you admit doing it. You can rationalize it any way you want, if that makes you feel better, but the issue was obviously not settled at that time, and probably hasn't even been settled now. If there has been a more recent RFC that helped resolve the issue, then certainly you can provide a link to it? I would love to see it. The one you always kept referring to in the past was only whether or not to send the Cornell link to Cornell page directly or the the Ag School instead. That is not the topic at hand here. Incidentally, the bigger issue here is not one reference to a college, but rather Ownership of Articles, which I see is still a problem here. BuboTitan (talk) 21:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
How gracefully you admit that you never bothered to actually read the archives before flinging around incendiary accusations. If you're actually here to contribute constructively, you should behave responsibly and educate yourself on previous consensus before engaging in an argument; otherwise you're just another POV troll. In either case, we don't have to re-explain it to you ad infinitum because you are either to lazy/irresponsible to go do a little reading first, or refuse to hear what's already been explained multiple times. We should put a {{hat}} on this one too... //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 22:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Blaxthos, I'm going to put this simply. You made the claim, not me, that the issue was "settled", so back up that claim. Misplaced Pages works, as Chickenmonkey notes above, from references. WP:HEAR doesn't apply if the "consensus" doesn't even exist; ad hominem attacks on me personally are a poor substitute. And incidentally, I'm curious, just what "POV" do you think I advocated here? The POV that the issue should actually be discussed? Do I need to remind someone of the policy on censorship? Have a good day. BuboTitan (talk) 02:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
The issue should be discussed? Are you fucking serious? Have you glanced at the archives? There are hundreds of thousands of bytes on this subject, half of it utter, useless bullshit advocating the very position you're pushing here. Don't like personal attacks? Try this one on for size. You are a worthless, time-wasting troll and a serious net liability to the project. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
As above, the article needs to be updated. Specifically, where it says "2007 - Present" in the sidebar, it should say "2007 - 2010". --74.138.214.5 (talk) 00:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Done Thanks, Stickee (talk) 03:31, 11 October 2010 (UTC)