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Puerto Rican Freemasons

Would it be possible to add a section/category of Puerto Rican Freemasons (Masones) to the list. Freemasonry has been a important ideology in a big number of our more notable Puerto Ricans. Currently a Misplaced Pages article have been created to this effects (List of Puerto Rican Freemasons) but unfortunately is in discussion to be deleted. Any help to keep the current page or to merge it to this one will be great!!!--Caferato (talk) 22:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

• In my opinion adding a "Freemasons" section would not be proper. You see in this list, those who are listed are placed in the field in which they became notable. If we added a "Freemasons" section, then the names placed in that section would have to be Puerto Ricans who became notable because of their work as Freemasons and not because they are notable people who happened to be Freemasons. An example is Betances whose notability resides on the fact that he was a great revolutionary leader who planned the revolt which became known as "El Grito de Lares" and therefore his name is placed under the "Politician" section. Betances was also a Freemason, however as a "Freemason" he was not notable. Now, what you can do is add the names of notable Puerto Ricans to the current List of Freemasons because that list, unlike the List of Puerto Ricans, only requires that the person be notable and does not require that person be notable because of his/her work as a Freemason. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Great work. The Best List On Misplaced Pages. --Davide41 (talk) 11:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you from all of us who manage this list. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

Anyone who has an edit request, please let us know the details and if the request is a valid one it will be done. Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Mihkelis, 28 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Add to "Musicians & Composers"

Laureano, Gustavo (La Secta Allstar)
Kilpatrick, Mark (La Secta Allstar)
Genao, Mike (La Secta Allstar)

Mihkelis (talk) 08:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Not done for now: Please provide reliable sources for these additions. (I added <br>eaks to the above list) Adrian J. Hunter 11:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit notice

Regular contributors to this page might consider implementing an edit notice in lieu of the instructions in the second paragraph and at the top of each section. Such instructions for contributors don't really belong in the article itself, which could be replicated outside of Misplaced Pages. There doesn't seem to be a specific system for requesting an admin to create an edit notice, but presumably {{adminhelp}} could be used, or it could be requested at WP:ANI. Adrian J. Hunter 11:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Mopcambm, 15 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Dr.Eduardo Pagan, Host of PBS show "History Detectives" (Puerto Rican Grandfather)

I am very new to editing info on Misplaced Pages, but Eduardo is also an author, having written the books, "Murder at the Sleepy Lagoon--Zoot Suits, Race, and Riot in Wartime L.A.", "Historic Photos of Phoenix", and "Remembering Phoenix". He received his Doctorate in History from Princeton University.

Please update your page to include him. (We have the same Puerto Rican Grandfather from Guayanilla.)

Mopcambm (talk) 05:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. His bio page at ASU states that he was born and raised in Phoenix, Arizona. Without a reliable source to confirm that he is Puerto Rican, we can't add it to the article. The best thing to do would be, if you can verify with a reliable source that he is Puerto Rican, to add that source and info to his article (Eduardo Obregón Pagán), then come make another request here. Just to clarify, we cannot accept your personal claim that you share relatives, as Misplaced Pages requires all info to be verified in reliable sources; this requirement is extra strict for information about living people. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:56, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 97.106.241.225, 20 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Leon, Ray Reyes Former member of "Menudo"

97.106.241.225 (talk) 03:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)  Done I assume you mean Ray Reyes; I don't see any mention of "Leon" in his name on his wikipage. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Mopcambm, 22 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} This is my second request. Can you please list Dr. Eduardo Pagan, Historian and host of PBS show "History Detectives" (going into its 8th season I believe). Dr. Pagan has also authored 3 books--Remembering Phoenix, Historic Photos of Phoenix, and Murder at the Sleepy Lagoon (zoot suit and race riots in wartime LA). He received his doctorate at Princeton. His grandfather, Juan De La Cruz Irizarry Pagan, came to the US from Guayanilla, Puerto Rico where his family owned tobacco fields. Eduardo is my brother and I personally knew my grandfather before he passed away, and we recently returned from Puerto Rico to visit the relatives. If you could link onto ancestry.com or family search and type in both names, they would prove the relation. We have a copy of my grandfathers birth certificate if there was any way to send it to you. Let us know.

Mopcambm (talk) 19:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.

As I look at the List of Puerto Ricans, I see there is only one person listed (Freddie Prinze, Jr.) who had a Puerto Rican grand-anything (father or mother, but grandfather in the case of Prinze). So I am led to make a comparison between the two for the sake of fairness and as a criteria for inclusion (and this basically means, well if we have Prinze in the list why not have Eduardo Pagán also?).

I notice that Prinze's wiki article provides sources that state that Prinze embraces his Puerto Rican heritage; yet I notice Pagan's article mentions nothing that would link him to his Puerto Rican heritage (other than, of course, that his grandfather, like Prinze's, was Puerto Rican). I also notice that Prinze is fluent in Spanish; but nowhere does the Pagan article says anything about Pagan being bilingual in Spanish. Third, I notice Prize's article states, agaun with citation, that Prinze spent his childhood summers in Puerto Rico, but again nothing in Pagan's article leads us to believe that Pagan has a connection with Puerto Rican culture.

So I think the problem with including Pagan in the list of Puerto Ricans is that,,,well,,, that he doesn't seem to be Puerto Rican. There is in the English Misplaced Pages an article called List of Native American writers, and since Pagan is a writer with a clear Native American background that may be an appropriate list to add Pagan to. (There is also another one called List of Native Americans of the United States to consider.) In fact, in watching THIS video, Pagan himself admits that "my first story had a very special connection to me...some of my ancestors roamed with Pancho Villa." It could be argued that "well yes, it says some of my ancestors, not my ancestors in general". However, the other story h that Pagan showcases is also from the Native American southwest (on a certain handwoven rug). Nowhere does it show (prominently or otherwise) that Pagan has any special interest in his Puerto Rican blood-line. Also nowhere in PBS's Pagan biography (a text separate from the video above) does it mention Puerto Rican anything about Pagan, but does mention his Native American heritage quite prominently.

As a side note, please note that a birth certificate is not a preferred source of information as it is considered a primary and not a secondary or tertiary source.

Thus, my position is that this edit request not be granted as the requestor has failed to show that Pagan is Puerto Rican.

My name is Mercy11 (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2011 (UTC), and I approve this message.

As the above people said, and I myself said, you need proof in the form of reliable sources. I know this sounds strange, as you know "for a fact" that he is Puerto Rican based on your shared ancestry. But, try to look at it from our perspective: how can we (other Misplaced Pages editors) know that you are who you claim to be? This is why Misplaced Pages doesn't allow first hand evidence. In fact, even if Pagan himself came here, and even if he proved who he was, we still probably wouldn't be able to include him on this list without a reliable source proving his ancestry. Apologies, but unless you can provide us with such a source, he cannot be added to this list. Qwyrxian (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request, 28 January 2011

Could someone with edit access please add "Raffucci, Luis Fernando", the famous poet whose patisserie was once a center of revolutionary activity in San Juan. I believe his entry would best be in section 3, "Authors, playwrights and poets". Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.211.203.66 (talk) 22:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Can I be on the list?

Since the article isn't titled "List of notable Puerto Ricans" instead titled "List of Puerto Ricans" and seeing that I am in fact a Puerto Rican, I believe it is acceptable for me, my mother, my father, my brothers, sisters, cousins and friends to all be on this list. At least, according to the article title. Feedback 00:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

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