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The missing evidence
Here is the "missing evidence" I guess ArbCom really should have had during the case. The material below took over 100+ hours to prepare. Hopefully it will be put to good use by the community.
As I previously discussed with User:Jehochman (before the ArbCom case) and User:Georgewilliamherbert (before/during the last AN/I discussion) a simple "interaction ban" will not be sufficient. These individuals specifically target others' contributions (not just mine) and in my case will simply continue their more recent attempts to become superficially involved in the technology and computing subject areas where I mainly contribute in order to cause problems. Short of individual indef blocks, topic banning from all forms of deletion processes and discussions in addition to topic banning from computing and technology pages and articles would likely be required. Based on the long term patterns I'm seeing in their interactions with other editors though, I'm not sure an interaction/topic ban would work anyway.
The material below is in no way exhaustive and much more can be found in these individuals' contribution histories. I focused primarily on the Misplaced Pages: and User talk: namespaces although even more can be found in the article and Talk: namespaces. User:JBsupreme's contributions in particular are nearly impossible to parse due to his intentional blanking of edit summaries (often using a ' ' character) so I've chosen not focus on them as much and have instead only linked to a number of AN/I discussions. Material related to JBsupreme and User:Miami33139 is noted first. Material related to User:Theserialcomma is last due to the sheer volume of material. (Why Theserialcomma wasn't blocked due to their behaviour towards others long, long ago is beyond me, but I digress...)
--Tothwolf 15:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC) (last updated 05:25, 9 November 2010 (UTC))
- Update June 2011
This is the material which was originally available at http://eggwiki.org/User:Tothwolf/Down_the_Rabbit_Hole and linked to during these discussions:
--Tothwolf (talk) 09:45, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Principles
Misplaced Pages:Harassment#Harassment and disruption:
Harassment, threats, repeated annoying and unwanted contact, and repeated personal attacks may reduce an editor's enjoyment of Misplaced Pages and cause disruption to the project.
Misplaced Pages:Harassment#Wikihounding:
Wiki-hounding is the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on pages or topics they may edit or debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work, with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor. To use the older term "Wikistalking" for this action is discouraged because it can confuse minor online annoyance with a real world crime.
Many users track other users' edits, although usually for collegial or administrative purposes. Proper use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Misplaced Pages policy or correcting related problems on multiple articles. In fact, such practices are recommended both for Recent changes patrol and WikiProject Spam. The contribution logs can be used in the dispute resolution process to gather evidence to be presented in requests for comment, mediation, WP:ANI, and arbitration cases.
The important component of wiki-hounding is disruption to another user's own enjoyment of editing, or to the project generally, for no overriding reason. If "following another user around" is accompanied by tendentiousness, personal attacks, or other disruptive behavior, it may become a very serious matter and could result in blocks and other editing restrictions.
Misplaced Pages:Civility#Identifying incivility:
2. Other uncivil behaviors
- (a) Taunting or baiting: deliberately pushing others to the point of breaching civility even if not seeming to commit such a breach themselves;
- (b) harassment, including Wikihounding, personal or legal threats, posting of personal information, repeated email or user space postings;
- (c) lying to mislead, including deliberately asserting false information;
- (d) quoting another editor out of context to give the impression they hold views they do not hold, or to malign them.
Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith#About good faith:
This guideline does not require that editors continue to assume good faith in the presence of contrary evidence. Assuming good faith does not prohibit discussion and criticism, but instead editors should not attribute the actions being criticised to malice unless there is specific evidence of malice.
JBsupreme
Edit summaries
Despite the continued requests from numerous editors for him to use proper edit summaries, JBsupreme still refuses to do so. This has been the subject of numerous AN/I discussions and these requests can be found in the edit history of his talk page. When JBsupreme does use edit summaries, they are often contentious and disrespectful to others. When nominating things for deletion, JBsupreme sometimes uses "to be deleted", "TO BE DELETED", etc. When undoing edits, it is not uncommon to see edit summaries such as "Undid revision 347021326 by Terimakasih (talk) no sources cited - pls do" which is clearly a violation of the WP:BITE guideline. When removing large sections of text from articles (sometimes referenced) in violation of the WP:PRESERVE section of the editing policy, JBsupreme sometimes uses edit summaries such as "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source which would demonstrate encyclopedic relevance or notability WP:RS" and "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source WP:BLP". In spot checking, more often than not (with the exception of obvious vandalism removals) I find that the text he removes can be referenced, but for some reason he chooses not to (so far I've been unable to find where JBsupreme has ever added any references to articles). He also appears to insert a character into many edit summaries to prevent MediaWiki from automatically filling in the section names.
See also: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tothwolf/Evidence#Behavioural issues with JBsupreme
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 14:32 | Reversions by user JBSupreme | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:33 | User:JBsupreme and problematic edit summaries | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:25 | User:JBSupreme's continued inappropriateness | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:59 | JBsupreme edit summaries again |
Other discussions
See also: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tothwolf/Evidence#Evidence presented by Shii
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:09 | Proposing ban of sorts | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:25 | User:JBsupreme moving an article just before nominating for deletion | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:54 | afd-privacy | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:24 | Unnecessary blanking of closed AfDs | "User:JBsupreme has replaced the content at Articles for deletion/Chioke Dmachi (2nd nomination) with an {{afd-privacy}} tag. I can see no reason for this; there were no BLP issues on that page (before, after). There is no explanation for the change in the edit summary, no aparrent involvement with the closing admin, and the user will not explain what issues are perceived. This was one of several examples all done at that time - see also: " | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:57 | Alan Soble (and JBsupreme) |
Interactions with User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters
(Something is quacking here and it ain't the duck tunnel ....)
See also: Alan Soble (and JBsupreme), #Other discussions
David Mertz, List of Python software
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:08 | "Looking through your contribution history, I see an almost complete lack of edit summaries. Moreover, looking through this talk page, I see that many, many other editor have complained about this... and also that you have failed to use edit summaries in an effort to covertly {prod} or {AfD] article in ways that make it difficult for editors and admins to follow the actions. This is looking like very bad faith, and I believe appropriate for ANI if you do not begin immediately using accurate summaries for your edits. LotLE×talk 10:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:09 | "Undid revision 341447627 by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk) troll elsewhere please" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:31 | "to be deleted" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:33 | "Delete. That this began as an autobiography is neither here nor there, but I do find it peculiar that despite the long list of book contributions there isn't much in the way of non-trivial coverage of the subject from reliable third party publications. JBsupreme (talk) 10:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:12 | "to be deleted" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:13 | Delete. While organized, this is still an indiscriminate list. JBsupreme (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:49 | "The result was SNOW or speedy keep, take your pick. Nomination has garnered no support; many !voters are finding arguments in the first AfD compelling. Jclemens (talk) 00:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
AN/I: User:JBsupreme "revenge" deletion and general belligerence
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:27 | User:JBsupreme "revenge" deletion and general belligerence | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:48 | "Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters has been trolling AN/I and elsewhere for quite some time now. He can keep on doing that if it suits him. There are edit summaries for the deletion nominations of both articles posted. I do admittedly slip up on occasion and forget to add a summary for a prod at times, but neither of these two are valid examples of that. Furthermore, it is not up to me to decide if the David Mertz article is notable, that is a community decision based on how WP:BLP, WP:BIO, WP:GNG, and any other relevant policies or guidelines are being interpreted at the time. JBsupreme (talk) 19:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:06 | "Comment: This seems to be retaliatory spiteful actions by JBsupreme (talk · contribs). This is a nom by JBsupreme (talk · contribs) of an article (admittedly by the subject on his userpage) which is a real-life bio page about the other editor in the dispute, Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters. This is a nom of a page created by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters. These actions by JBsupreme (talk · contribs) are highly inappropriate, disruptive, and indeed seem to be retaliatory in nature. Seems like a clear-cut case of WP:WIKIHOUNDING. Cirt (talk) 20:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:12 | "(ec) As a matter of assuming good faith, JBSupreme offers a fair explanation on the lack of edit summaries. LotLE hasn't provided any proof for the speculation that the incomplete AfD procedure reflects an intent to deceive people, although there's some evidence that it's a recurring pattern. (addressing JBSupreme) If you try to remember in the future, problem solved there. The name-calling is a problem, though, as is the apparent vendetta. Are you telling us that you just happened upon that article on your own, and decided out of the blue to re-nominate it barely three months after it survived its last deletion nomination? It would appear that your dispute with this editor carried you there. Back to the original complaint, I think it rests on an assumption of bad faith that others may not be so willing to make. The easiest solution, I think, is for the two of you to try to see the good in each other and make up, or failing that, just disengage. Yes, there was some hounding, but the damage can be undone easily enough. The nominations ought to be withdrawn, but both of those articles will likely survive AfD even if carried to its full term. Just my opinion. - Wikidemon (talk) 20:12, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:14 | "I fully agree with Wikidemon that the two AFD nominations should be withdrawn, and then the two editors should agree to disengage from each other in the future. Cirt (talk) 20:14, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:41 | "From a completely uninvolved point of view, this looks like a case of wikihounding which is in violation of an ArbCom ruling in which JBsupreme "is warned to refrain from incivility and personal attacks". It appears to me that some sort of action against JBsupreme may be warranted. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 20:41, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:43 | "Wow, thanks for pointing that out, I was unaware of that ArbCom ruling regarding JBsupreme. This certainly seems to merit administrative action. Cirt (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:11 | "FWIW, JBsupreme has called me a "troll" and some other insults on some AfD pages (which I'm having trouble locating, however, in a quick search). That probably violates the arbitration ruling on WP:NPA. However, my concern really is not that my fragile feelings were hurt by being called a mean name... rather, I find his disruptive behavior around "delete by every means (including deception, bullying, etc)" to be the underlying issue. LotLE×talk 21:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:43 | "I recently observed behaviour of JBsupreme which looked to me like deceiving and I filed an ANI thread about it a few days ago, which went basically uncommented and went to the archive. I just want to mention it again, in case it is part of a bigger picture and relevant here: . JBsupreme, please don't take this as a personal attack, I only mentioned it. --thommey (talk) 21:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:31 | "With respect to the AfDs, an AfD on David Mertz could possibly be in good faith--a simultaneous one against Mertz' RL field of work-- List of Python software, after a unanimous first AfD, makes it seem otherwise. DGG ( talk ) 23:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 05:46 | "This editor strikes me as one who has difficulty letting things go when consensus is against him. Resolute 05:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:48 | "I endorse the above view of Resolute with concern. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC)." |
Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:57 | Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio | "Delete. Misplaced Pages is not a webhost. This page was deliberately created as an end run around a recent AfD discussion which resulted in delete of this same article in the main Wiki space. Besides being a repost of deleted material, it was done as a copy/paste move which also violates GFDL. Userpages are not intended as a means of self-promotion or to circumvent our deletion processes. JBsupreme (talk) 10:57, 19 February 2010 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:12 | Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2010 February 21#User talk:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:12 | "moved David Mertz to User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters/Bio: Userfying per DRV" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:13 | "subst:afd-privacy" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:35 | "Undid revision 347084001 by Tothwolf (talk) unnecessary at this point, we no longer index these pages on Google -- pls stop following my edits" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:57 | "Undid revision 347255910 by JBsupreme (talk) Just let it go, JBsupreme." |
Continued wikihounding
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:23 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:38 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:40 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:21 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:23 | history | "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source WP:BLP" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:10 | "to be deleted" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:13 | Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 March 4#List of pop culture references to the 69 sex position | "Delete. This is an invalid redirect; there is no such list of pop culture references within the article, and it appears that any such section was vacated eons ago. JBsupreme (talk) 07:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:16 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:47 | history | "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source WP:BLP" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:45 | "to be deleted" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:47 | "Delete. This individual WP:BLP lacks non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. If you actually drill down on some of the cites provided you will find passing mention or no mention of this person within. JBsupreme (talk) 17:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:30 | "removing section which is not specifically attributed to a reliable third party source which would demonstrate encyclopedic relevance or notability WP:RS" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:58 | history | "to be deleted" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:59 | Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/James Watkins (2nd nomination) | "Delete. I am having difficulty locating non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications about this person. JBsupreme (talk) 19:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:25 | "Reverted 2 edits by JBsupreme identified as vandalism to last revision by Kevin. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:29 | "Reverted 1 edit by JBsupreme identified as vandalism to last revision by Erik9bot. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:00 | "Undid revision 349254857 by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk) you are violating NPA and BLP policy in tandem, pl" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:01 | "Undid revision 349255647 by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk) again you are violating NPA and BLP policy in tand" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:49 | "to be deleted" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:50 | Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Alan Soble | "Delete. Subject would appear to fail general notability guidelines due to a lack of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. Searching Google News yields exactly zero matches by this name. JBsupreme (talk) 20:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)" |
Miami33139
Attacks, baiting, failure to assume good faith
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:00 | Wikistalking and problematic edits by User:Miami33139 | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:48 | Questionable bulk edits by User:Miami33139 | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:02 | Continued wikistalking/wikihounding and harassment | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:55 | Tothwolf flaming out while announcing retirement | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:52 | Review requested of a block by a possibly involved adminstrator |
Refusal to disengage
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:21 | User:Tothwolf | "I have filed a request for intervention." | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:17 | Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/QuickPar | "Delete One mere mention as a tool does not make something notable. Miami33139 (talk) 18:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:08 | "I believe User:Tothwolf citing wp:dftt might not have been the best way to go about things, but he has brought up concerns recently that do not appear to have been motivated by bad faith. It may be best to disengage, but I don't see any blatant incivility, bad faith, or personal attacks that warrant action here. user:J aka justen (talk) 19:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:14 | "Your accusations need to stop. It has grown beyond just calling me a troll, stalker and conspiracist. You have now included User:Joe Chill and User:JBsupreme in your accusations of a crusade against you. You are obviously frustrated at defending parts of Misplaced Pages you feel personally invested in. Miami33139 (talk) 19:14, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:24 | "Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Tothwolf. I have used your interaction with Tothwolf as evidence in a civility notice about him. You may be interested in followup. Miami33139 (talk) 19:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:18 | "Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Tothwolf. It may interest you. After I posted the notice there, I saw that you had independently posted to ANI. Miami33139 (talk) 19:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:28 | Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/SmartPAR | "Delete One mere mention in one book is not notable. No, Tothwolf, I didn't follow you here. I followed JBsupreme. Am I stalking him too? Miami33139 (talk) 19:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:30 | "This is not disengaging. Posting an alert here and then heading over to bash User:Tothwolf over the head, while simultaneously attempting to stir up additional resentment really is not going to help the situation. Take a step back, and disengage from User:Tothwolf (and I'd advise him to do the same if he were here). user:J aka justen (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:38 | "Rm inflammatory, bordering on WP:NPA comment. Focus on content, not on other editors." | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:58 | "Whatever your intent, if the other users have concerns regarding User:Tothwolf, they are perfectly capable of addressing them without your invitation. As I've said, your best bet at this point is to give a solid course of disengagement a try. Take care, user:J aka justen (talk) 19:58, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:02 | "Just for clarification, this most certainly is not disengaging. In fact, it would appear to be a direct attempt at engagement. user:J aka justen (talk) 20:02, 27 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:02 | Continued wikistalking/wikihounding and harassment | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 12:44 | Continued wikistalking/wikihounding and harassment: Timeline of interaction | "This timeline of edits does appear to be worrying, and I think Miami needs to explain the apparent correlation between the two edit histories quickly. If none is forthcoming, some remedies spring to mind, such as interaction bans. Comment from Miami is, however, what is needed at this point. For transparency, Tothwolf notified me of this thread as well as at least one other administrator - the notification was neutral in tone, and I am unaware of any significant involvement with either editor. Fritzpoll (talk) 12:44, 28 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:36 | "I originally discussed some of these issues with User:Miami33139 following his report to wp:wqa. I was disappointed in that, even as I was advising him his best bet was to disengage, he was taking concrete steps that appeared likely to unnecessarily escalate tensions with User:Tothwolf. Like Fritzpol, I was troubled by the number of instances in which User:Miami33139 tagged articles for deletion only hours after User:Tothwolf had last edited said articles. At some point, the sheer frequency of those occurrences being happenstance begins to stretch the assumption of good faith to its limits. user:J aka justen (talk) 13:36, 28 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:55 | Tothwolf flaming out while announcing retirement | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:33 | "I hate to be a pest" "Would you make a simple statement of your interaction with Tothwolf here? Even one sentence that says the characterizations of your existing statements are correctly representing your opinion would be helpful. Miami33139 (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)" |
Interactions with User:Ed Fitzgerald
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:04 | user:Ed Fitzgerald, whitespace and other manual formatting against the MOS | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:48 | Questionable bulk edits by User:Miami33139 | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:23 | User talk:H Debussy-Jones |
Miami33139 / JBsupreme "category navigation"
"It is more likely that Miami33139 has identified articles to propose or nominate for deletion from categories or lists of articles, rather than by any malevolent following of Tothwolf's contributions list "
"It is more likely that JBsupreme has identified articles to propose or nominate for deletion from categories or lists of articles, rather than by any malevolent following of Tothwolf's contributions list "
"The first interaction I am aware of related to this issue is the revert of my removal of an invalid CSD tag and then RFD nomination of a redirect that Miami33139 has admitted to finding from my contributions. After they saw where I had reverted vandalism on NexIRC they nominated it for AfD. "
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:09 | Wikistalking and problematic edits by User:Miami33139 | "Paranoid much? Looking at user contributions is not stalking. Cross namespace redirects are regularly deleted. It is now at RfD. I've been making minor edits all night long before and after looking at a few of the same things you did. Get a grip on reality. Miami33139 (talk) 06:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:18 | Wikistalking | " Your contribution history is public. I often look at other editors contributions for other things I may be interested in. This is not stalking. Miami33139 (talk) 21:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:17 | " I will say I was mistaken for the edits on 'What wp is not' as I was previously told redirects across namespaces were always unwanted. Opinions on this vary over time, apparently. The process handled it in the end without either of our involvement. Miami33139 (talk) 02:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:34 | Rdm2376's deletions | "Wrong. I am using a list generated by a bot which does a regex search for contentious claims or are articles which have been identified as unsourced for longer than 6+ months (in most cases 2-3 years). JBsupreme (talk) 18:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)" |
Theserialcomma
"Admin abuse"
Cf. User:Antandrus/observations on Misplaced Pages behavior #37:
"When someone screams about "admin abuse", it's most likely true – they're probably abusing admins again. If there's a block involved, expect to see a battalion of sockpuppets in short order, making even more shrill cries of admin wrongdoing."
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:20 | "i expect User:Jéské Couriano to come in here any minute and block me. he's been harassing me and threatening to ban for me for a while now. i hope this community will review the situation before User:Jéské Couriano jumps the gun. Theserialcomma (talk) 03:20, 10 August 2009" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:32 | Personal attacks | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:51 | "moved abuse to editor's page" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:50 | "i will be watching your edits for any further passive aggressive behavior, especially on articles in which you are involved and also attempt to abuse your status as an admin. i consider your argument to be insane, that one single mention in a spanish blog = notable. that is insane, period. the fact that i ended my sentence with 'i am not going to argue this further' and you still came to warn me, shows that you are punitive in your abuse. back off and stop abusing your status. your behavior is unacceptable. Theserialcomma (talk) 18:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:16 | Alan Roger Currie | "what a surprise to see you here, SarekOfVulcan, wikihounding my every move because i disagreed with you about another, unrelated article]. yes, please use your admin tools to counter my position on an issue you are unrelated to in any way ]. please do. 19:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:26 | Admin User:RockMFR conflict of interest in block of User:Koalorka | "i suggest a deeper look into GWH's history to see if there is a pattern of admin misconduct. his attempting bullying of User: Some Guy, or his 30 day block of me for 'baiting' a notorious abuser with 10 blocks under his belt might be a start. Theserialcomma (talk) 04:26, 20 August 2009" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:27 | "i suggest a deeper look into GWH's history to see if there is a pattern of admin misconduct. his attempting bullying of User: Some guy, or his 30 day block of me for 'baiting' a notorious abuser might be a start. the common thread between User: Some guy and me being blocked? We both were involved in disputes with WP:Guns members. Theserialcomma (talk) 04:27, 20 August 2009" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:33 | Topic banned on Koalorka | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:32 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:33 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:58 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:58 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:46 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:21 | "more admin abuse from georgewilliamherbert. when did you forget how to provide diffs of alleged abuse, GWH?" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:03 | Accusation of WP:OUTING violation | "thanks for not notifying me of this thread. i think this is a blatant case of outing. you posted a link to an outing site that lists a wikipedian's alleged real name and city/state. the site is a blatant attack page. i won't link it here but it can be found in the link listed by sarek. if any admin action should be taken, it should be that of an oversight. Theserialcomma (talk) 20:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
Attacks, baiting, failure to assume good faith
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:54 | Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Firearm (tool) | "Did you read the talk page and all the delete and merge votes? None of the issues, such as the fact that the article is mostly just copy and pasted from elsewhere, or that it's a POV fork article with hardly any new content, which could easily be merged into the main Firearms article, were adequately countered by those who requested it be kept Theserialcomma (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 15:47 | Tothwolf and Eckstasy | "tothwolf has harassed and caused drama in multiple articles he's had disagreements in. he has a COI in irc-related articles because he's a developer for a well-known IRC application, so he takes the articles very personally. he also is a regular on wiki's IRC, so expect him to canvas his IRC friends for help/support. good luck getting anything done with this uncivil harasser. Theserialcomma (talk) 15:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:54 | "This is ANI, where patterns of behavior and abuse is discussed, so no, i won't stop reporting his patterns of abuse to the proper channels. i'm only on thin ice with an abusive admin (you) who is threatening to BAN me (not just block) for 'hounding' his irc buddy who canvassed an entire admin channel on irc for days before only you decided to step in and bother me. i've never been blocked before for any reason, and you've threatened to BAN me. you are the one hounding me, and tothwolf is the one with the pattern of abuse. i'm not intimidated by your threats. i am quite sure you'll block me, but i'm also quite sure that your block will be tenuous and it won't stick. so threaten away. i'm reporting abuse as i see it, whether it's tothwolf or anyone else Theserialcomma (talk) 20:54, 30 June 2009" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:07 | Fisticuffs by three editors at Talk:Shell account | "tothwolf has a history of claiming stalking and then forum/irc shopping until an admin will do something. he did the same thing to me about a month or two ago and had an admin threaten to ban me forever. i suggest tothwolf's interactions with other editors is scrutinized more heavily. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:46 | is there something i missed here? | "as a non-admin, non checkuser, should you really be closing checkuser reports as 'insufficient evidence'? ] is this for real? even after the user semi admitted sockpuppetry but then recanted? what exactly is your role? Theserialcomma (talk) 21:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:47 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:47 | "his action may have been correct, but he came to the conclusion based on what i'd call negligence. and i'm still not sure why a non-admin, non-checkuser is closing cases as 'insufficient evidence' when the user is blatantly socking. i hope the non-checkusers who close blatant sock reports will act better also. done. Theserialcomma (talk) 00:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:59 | "if the behavioral evidence presented, which was the fact that there were 4 SPAs, each blocked, and another created and subsequently blocked, and then this guy showed up -- another SPA editing only this low traffic article -- is 'insufficient evidence' then you should seriously consider resigning your duties as whatever it is you do involving judging 'insufficient evidence'. you made a mistake, flat out, and i don't have faith in your ability to do your volunteer job competently. i am glad that admins and your friends/other users support you, but i know that you acted incompetently in this case. we can beg to differ and drop it now. farewell. Theserialcomma (talk)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:19 | SPI | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 05:57 | was an act of incompetence considering the fact he admitted to being some of the socks], and the circumstantial evidence before he even admitted to it was overwhelming. What are the odds that he just happened to be an SPA on a low traffic article, after 3 other SPAs on that article were just blocked? it was grossly negligent to close that as insufficient. if anything, you should have cited WP:DUCK. good luck in your attempts to become an admin. this place really needs more people in power who make poor decisions and then won't admit they are wrong. you should be apologizing and admitting your errors, but whatever, it's not important. Theserialcomma (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:43 | user:Jclemens | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 01:33 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:56 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:31 | "this was closed as "This is not a general venue for bitching about Jclemens. " and i am reopening it because this shows a pattern of misusing the tools" "at that point, there was nothing for you to do because it was too late. but what you should have done Theserialcomma (talk) 20:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 05:33 | "it appears to me as if Jclemens is trying to seek punitive punishment against you for complaining about him. I don't see any evidence of actionable incivility, just what appears to be a counter attack from Jclemens. Just my opinion. Theserialcomma (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:49 | personal attack from recently unblocked User: Koalorka | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:04 | it is not my goal to match wits here with stubborn basement dwellers]]? i could see how that might be perceived by some as a personal attack and not just "pointing out a disruptive trend". by the way, i have reported probably 10 people to ANI/ANE/etc., for incivility, edit warring, all sorts of things. That is what you do when users are abusive: you report them to admins. That is what I will do to you every single time you make personal attacks against me: You get reported. you've been blocked 6 times for NPA, sockpuppetry, and whatever else. how long of a block do you need to stop making unprovoked personal attacks? 1 month this time? Theserialcomma (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:35 | "GWH has a conflict of interest here. I complained about his ability to admin fairly yesterday, and so this is no surprise. Please show diffs that justify this, and also i would like an uninvolved admin's input Theserialcomma (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:23 | "i request diffs to justify my topic ban --for the fourth time--, and an uninvolved admin's input on whether this is appropriate based on the facts and GWH's COI. Theserialcomma (talk) 06:23, 23 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:03 | Continued wikistalking/wikihounding and harassment | "Per User:Mikaey], any admin who wants to see another admin's perspective of tothwolf's previous behavior, just check out User:Mikaey/Tothwolf) (only viewable by an admin, but Mikaey gives permission for it to be undeleted (here: ]), Theserialcomma (talk) 18:03, 29 September 2009" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:30 | User:Tothwolf | i posted this on ANI]. an admin previous documented tothwolf's failure to assume good faith, amongst other things. the link is on the ani thread, but must be restored by an admin Theserialcomma (talk) 20:30, 29 September 2009" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:31 | i posted this on ANI]. an admin previously documented, in detail, various specific examples of tothwolf's failure to assume good faith, amongst other things. the link is on the ani thread, but must be restored by an admin Theserialcomma (talk) 20:30, 29 September 2009" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:34 | Tothwolf flaming out while announcing retirement | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:39 | "nominating articles that are not worthy of inclusion is not harassment. that is what we do with bad articles, we delete them. if they are worthy of inclusion, they will be kept. if they are deleted, they were bad, or can be recreated. this is not harassment. what is harassment, however, is calling people stalkers and trolls. stop this behavior and get over it. the only topic ban necessary should be tothwolf from IRC-related articles. Theserialcomma (talk) 21:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:13 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:54 | "tothwolf shows more ownership issues and misuses rollback" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:50 | Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tothwolf/Proposed decision#Dueling pianos | "so now you are accusing us of libel ("attempts to damage my reputation"), hacking ("breach the security of my personal webserver to gain access to my email"), and ddos attacks. give me a fucking break. hacking and ddos attacks are felonies, of course, and so i hope you've contacted the state and federal authorities, whose job it is to assist you in apprehending these shadowy criminal hacker slanderers, whom you claim are either me, miami, or jbsupreme. the only problem is that your accusations, without evidence, have now put you in the position of publicly accusing us of being felonious criminal hackers and slanderers - WITHOUT IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE. Theserialcomma (talk) 07:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)" | |
Refusal to disengage
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:09 | Eggdrop | "Theserialcomma, I strongly suggest you disengage from Tothwolf. You've identified the problems but now you can let others deal with them. Will Beback talk 06:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:16 | "When I say disengage, I mean stopping editing the article too. Please don't act provocatively. Will Beback talk 08:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:45 | "I'm just trying to help resolve this dispute. The number one method for dispute resolution is disengagement. If you're not in each other's faces then there's less potential for conflict. This is a very short article in a very large encyclopedia. My advice to you is to just disengage and find something else to write about. Will Beback talk 09:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:22 | Question | "Tothwolf said he thought you were wiki-hounding him, and I do find it a bit strange that you just recently started editing articles about various IRC clients and so forth, especially ones that Tothwolf has been editing, and especially right after he disagreed with you on a few AfDs. I looked at your contributions reaching back about six months, and I don't see any edits to this topic, so I was just wondering if there is something obvious that I am overlooking. J.delanoyadds 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:41 | " Tothwolf is irrelevant to this fact, and he is only interjecting himself into my valid edits to harass me. He may have edited some of the IRC articles that I've edited first, but I never checked, and I'm uninterested in what he's edited. Does that mean that I cannot edit IRC articles because some random editor says so? I don't think so. If you check the changes I've made to said articles, they have been good edits. The problem is, he takes "his" articles very personally. And since he's been proven he has a COI in eggdrop (the IRC bot), because he's an eggdrop developer, he's been very rude to me, and the other admins who told him he has a COI. Since eggdrop is a specific IRC application, it becomes obvious why he takes IRC articles so personally too. The COI makes him too close to the field to be neutral. He has been forum/IRC shopping for weeks to get people to harass me for my good faith, quality edits. I am only trying to better the encyclopedia. If you check the content of his claims about the first AFD which we both voted in, he voted keep, and it was deleted. He then made personal attacks against my motives, saying it was a bad faith nomination. Go look at the AFD yourself, but I'm not wasting time defending myself with diffs because a bitter, COI editor is forum shopping for help. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:14 | "I call bullshit. I've been looking at links Tothwolf has shown me, and I believe that you *are* hounding him, Theserialcomma. I recommend you stop, and now, or else I will block you for harassment and seek a ban. Consider this your only warning. -Jeremy 20:14, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:01 | "Yeah right. I am calling shenanigans on your nonsense. Show diffs of me making bad edits, or harassment, or go back to your elitist IRC channel where forum shopping actually works. I am not being scared away from editing thousands of articles just because one sensitive editor hangs out on IRC with admins and cries until people listen to him. Show diffs or harass someone else. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:45 | "So you mean to tell me this COI/N thread is just coincidental? You mean to tell me your contributions as regards IRC topics are not intended to hound Tothwolf, nevermind you're targeting articles he has been working on? You mean to tell me this SPI request, which has about as much base to it as a transient, isn't intended as a means of trying to sanction Tothwolf for another offense? I don't believe any of that garbage, Theserialcomma, and I heavily doubt anyone at AN/I will appreciate the personal attack you just levied against Tothwolf. -Jeremy 22:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:55 | " I have no interest in communicating with you further about this topic, as it's obvious that you are here to protect your IRC buddy, and not treat me fairly, or nicely (i.e. call "bullshit" on me being honest, and call my response "garbage". Get out of here. You are an admin, a supposed representative of what it means to be a good editor. Learn how to talk to people. After I file the ANI (or you can do it for me), we can communicate there. But I don't want to talk to you on my page. Thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:41 | "Where is the AN/I, then? I'm pretty certain that the above is a dodge, especially since all three links are as much evidence as twenty diffs as regards this matter. -Jeremy 23:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:57 | "i was going to jump at the opportunity to gather evidence that you are wrong to threaten me, and that i did nothing wrong, by gathering and submitting it all to ANI, and then, instead, i just went on with my life. maybe if i have time later, if you are still even an admin Theserialcomma (talk) 22:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 11:57 | would you call this canvassing | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:50 | a user you previously interacted with | "you once had a subpage about tothwolf's failure to agf and other potential transgressions. please see also see ]. i feel that he has this long pattern of this type of behavior. perhaps you have access to the subpage still to see. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:13 | "I still had you talk page watchlisted and saw User:Theserialcomma's attempt to involve themselves in something that does not involve them. You might also want to be aware of this attempt by Theserialcomma to start trouble in this area. There are some other diffs, but unless Theserialcomma decides to have a go at making trouble again (they know they aren't innocent), I have no reason to bring them forward. Theserialcomma does need to be aware that I have everything saved from the last time they stirred up trouble, including an AN/I report that I never posted. --Tothwolf (talk) 06:13, 29 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:38 | "quit showing up in ANI for the same reasons you harassed me (someone votes against you in an AFD and you claim they are stalking you), and i will stop noticing. mikaey, please undelete this page. this trend of tothwolf's behavior is now affecting up to 4 separate editors, unrelated editors in the past week. my only involvement is reading about it on ANI Theserialcomma (talk) 17:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:53 | "Harassed you? The way I seem to remember it, You got your knickers in a twist over my pointing out your attempt to further escalate the situation surrounding the YTCracker AfDs. After which you began a massive campaign of wikistalking/wikihounding up to filing a false claim of COI on COI/N and a false SPI report against me (which you have a history of doing to other editors with whom you have a dispute with) and following me around reverting my edits and nominating things for AfD. I have all the links right here and we can certainly do a full report if you are really intent on dredging this up. I had hoped after you were warned and told repeatedly to disengage and to leave me alone that you had decided to let things be however these recent actions of yours seem to indicate otherwise. Mikaey, if you or another impartial admin need these links for any reason, I'm happy to provide them, just let me know. --Tothwolf (talk) 20:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)" |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:14 | "per http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Tothwolf and the ANI thread, and according to Tothwolf... Miami33139, Joe Chill, JBSupreme, and I are all harassing/stalking him. this guy is out of control. Theserialcomma (talk) 21:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:23 | "Miami33139 and JBsupreme, absolutely (and documented). Joe Chill I'm trying to AGF and think he may have just got caught up in Miami33139's actions. In your case, Theserialcomma, you've been butting in each time you've seen my username somewhere. Btw, Theserialcomma, I still have my webserver logs from your attempt at outing me and can provide those if someone ever requests them. --Tothwolf (talk) 21:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:30 | "so you think that threatening to reveal my supposed IP is somehow going to help you? or are you just threatening me to try to scare me? or what? how would you ever prove that IP is mine? you need to seriously just act proper and no one will complain about you further. stop involving me in this drama immediately with your threats and nonsense. i am 100% uninterested in interacting with you on any level. if you continue to harass people by claiming false harassment, and it comes to my attention, I will point the proper people in the right direction to see your history. as for you personally, i don't want to talk to you in any way. you can keep your creepy and fake IP logs. no need to respond here further because i'm uninterested in your threats or drama Theserialcomma (talk) 21:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:03 | "Mikaey, Tothwolf states that User:Mikaey/Tothwolf "contains nothing that is unavailable in my contributions"]; however, I don't believe this to be true. i think you had added your own comments to the page, and so therefore there is information available in that page that is not available in tothwolf's contributions. Further, tothwolf states "It was deleted because it contains a fair number of errors and inaccuracies and was woefully incomplete"]. would you consider this to be an accurate assessment of the content and the reason it was deleted? thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 04:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:05 | "your article undelete request" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:43 | "i am trying to approach this delicately without naming names (i think you know who i mean), but a certain editor has been canvassing multiple admins/editors about you and other editors. they did not get what they wanted from that drama-filled, time consuming ANI (in fact, it backfired for them), so they keep bringing up the situation to random editors/admins, accusing you of meatpuppetry and other bad faith accusations. this is tantamount to harassment, in my opinion, but i don't know what can be done about this. all this drama from this one person is just absurd. if you look through their diffs, i count at least 5 separate canvas attempts that start out as 'blah blah irrelevant stuff; oh by the way, you should know about this ANI situation with these meatpuppets'. Theserialcomma (talk) 00:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:33 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 16:14 | User:Mikaey/Tothwolf | "Hey, Tothwolf is currently accusing 3 simultaneous users of wikistalking, harassment, and meatpuppetry at arbcom. I intend to use User:Mikaey/Tothwolf as evidence of his long history of making the same accusations against numerous users who ever edit/afd's a software-related article in which he's edited. could you please provide me with a copy of this page now that it's gone to arbcom? thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 16:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:02 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:45 | "See previous WP:REFUND request and response. (Note that I did not file the RFAR, an uninvolved administrator did and it was also supported by other uninvolved administrators). --Tothwolf (talk) 17:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:16 | Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Tothwolf/Bash.org | "DELETE" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:41 | "removing soapboxing personal attack" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:43 | "rm personal attack in direct violation of the arbcom sanctions against you. do not make further allegations about other editors." | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:13 | "it's also ridiculous that his talkpage has become a soapboax attack page. he links a diff on the top of his page that calls us 'wikistalkers, harassers' and other allegations that arbcom specifically restricted him from saying, but since he is linking an old diff, it's somehow ok. allowing that is one of the most blatant gaming of the system ive ever seen Theserialcomma (talk) 19:13, 18 February 2010 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:08 | Tothwolf / Theserialcomma / JBsupreme | "george, stop being a hypocrite. if you were concerned with people falsely claiming 'wikistalking', you should probably warn tothwolf for linking this diff ] on the top of his soapbox talk page. but you didn't warn tothwolf did you, even though arbcom has restricted him from making such claims. i guess linking a diff on a soapbox page is sufficient gaming of the system to absolve someone of their restrictions. it's like saying, i am not calling you a dick, i am just going to link you to where i called you a dick previously, so in that case it's not a personal attack. sure. and stop watching my talk page. Theserialcomma (talk) 20:08, 18 February 2010 (UTC)" | |
IRC "cabalism" meme
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:41 | " Tothwolf is irrelevant to this fact, and he is only interjecting himself into my valid edits to harass me. He may have edited some of the IRC articles that I've edited first, but I never checked, and I'm uninterested in what he's edited. Does that mean that I cannot edit IRC articles because some random editor says so? I don't think so. If you check the changes I've made to said articles, they have been good edits. The problem is, he takes "his" articles very personally. And since he's been proven he has a COI in eggdrop (the IRC bot), because he's an eggdrop developer, he's been very rude to me, and the other admins who told him he has a COI. Since eggdrop is a specific IRC application, it becomes obvious why he takes IRC articles so personally too. The COI makes him too close to the field to be neutral. He has been forum/IRC shopping for weeks to get people to harass me for my good faith, quality edits. I am only trying to better the encyclopedia. If you check the content of his claims about the first AFD which we both voted in, he voted keep, and it was deleted. He then made personal attacks against my motives, saying it was a bad faith nomination. Go look at the AFD yourself, but I'm not wasting time defending myself with diffs because a bitter, COI editor is forum shopping for help. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:01 | "Yeah right. I am calling shenanigans on your nonsense. Show diffs of me making bad edits, or harassment, or go back to your elitist IRC channel where forum shopping actually works. I am not being scared away from editing thousands of articles just because one sensitive editor hangs out on IRC with admins and cries until people listen to him. Show diffs or harass someone else. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:55 | " I have no interest in communicating with you further about this topic, as it's obvious that you are here to protect your IRC buddy, and not treat me fairly, or nicely (i.e. call "bullshit" on me being honest, and call my response "garbage". Get out of here. You are an admin, a supposed representative of what it means to be a good editor. Learn how to talk to people. After I file the ANI (or you can do it for me), we can communicate there. But I don't want to talk to you on my page. Thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 15:47 | "tothwolf has harassed and caused drama in multiple articles he's had disagreements in. he has a COI in irc-related articles because he's a developer for a well-known IRC application, so he takes the articles very personally. he also is a regular on wiki's IRC, so expect him to canvas his IRC friends for help/support. good luck getting anything done with this uncivil harasser. Theserialcomma (talk) 15:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:54 | "This is ANI, where patterns of behavior and abuse is discussed, so no, i won't stop reporting his patterns of abuse to the proper channels. i'm only on thin ice with an abusive admin (you) who is threatening to BAN me (not just block) for 'hounding' his irc buddy who canvassed an entire admin channel on irc for days before only you decided to step in and bother me. i've never been blocked before for any reason, and you've threatened to BAN me. you are the one hounding me, and tothwolf is the one with the pattern of abuse. i'm not intimidated by your threats. i am quite sure you'll block me, but i'm also quite sure that your block will be tenuous and it won't stick. so threaten away. i'm reporting abuse as i see it, whether it's tothwolf or anyone else Theserialcomma (talk) 20:54, 30 June 2009" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:07 | "tothwolf has a history of claiming stalking and then forum/irc shopping until an admin will do something. he did the same thing to me about a month or two ago and had an admin threaten to ban me forever. i suggest tothwolf's interactions with other editors is scrutinized more heavily. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:33 | "don't think 'speedy keep' was the correct close only after 1 day and limited votes. in fact, i suspect some sort of (probably IRC) collusion based on one of the SPAs who voted. i wonder if this should go to DRV? Theserialcomma (talk) 21:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:34 | "The problem is 100% tothwolf, not anyone else. he has egregiously failed to AGF and defaults to paranoid personal attacks, accusations, and drama stirring anytime someone touches an article he owns. he's already been shown to have a COI in the IRC area, as he's an eggdrop developer (or somehow related to the eggdrop project (check the COI board archives), so it's no wonder that he has ownership issues with irc related articles. If an admin wants to see another admin's take on tothwolf's behavior, check out User:Mikaey/Tothwolf. tothwolf has already been admonished for his failure to agf by admins repeatedly. it's time this ended Theserialcomma (talk) 21:34, 6 November 2009" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:13 | "What is the extent of your relationship with jeske couriano off-wiki? What have you discussed with him on IRC/off-wiki in reference to me, and what has he said? Do your interactions with him go beyond IRC? email? more? I ask because there is no log of your interactions on wikipedia, and he has actively taken a disturbing, aggressive interest in me in all situations involving you. e.g. ], ]. jeske's been warned by georgewilliamherbert for attacking me in an ANI thread in which jeske was previously uninvolved, but jeske still continues to be aggressively "on my ass" which is a direct quote from jeske ] Theserialcomma (talk) 19:03, 20 November 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:33 | "just so you know, my password has been scrambled and i have a new account. pardon the incivility, but you can go fuck yourself. and enjoy your steamy chats with tothwolf on irc. did i mention that you can go fuck yourself? thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:33, 6 November 2010 (UTC)" |
Blocked for baiting
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:49 | "I am sorry, your innocent explanation for the repeated messages left on Nukes4Tots' talk page is insufficiently credible. Taunting or harrassing users in a manner which is technically within Misplaced Pages civility guidelines but is intended to create hostile responses is not acceptable. This type of baiting behavior has been extensively discussed recently and been determined by a wide community consensus to be inappropriate. You have gone through quite a number of cycles of this behavior with Nukes4Tots and others - making "innocent complaints" on their talk pages, of editors who have asked you to leave them alone, and then run for ANI when they responded in a less than civil manner. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 21:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:29 | "i need a block review. i've never been blocked for anything before, nor warned for this incident, nor was there any community consensus or input on this block. plus, i was not baiting him -- he was being abusive, and the community consensus agreed, which is why he was blocked. and the user whom i was supposedly 'baiting' User: Nukes4tots has a long history of abuse, sockpuppetry, racism, and he was simply wrong for typing 'rvv' on non-vandalism. i warned him twice, and he wrote 'rvv' in his edit summaries in response, so i reported it to ANI. warning someone twice before reporting them to ANI is good faith. georgewilliamherbert is far from uninvolved. he has a history of coming to nukes4tots' defense when nukes4tots is indefensible. i dont know what their connection is, or if they speak off-wiki, but because they are both wp:guns members, somehow they are acquainted." | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:41 | "unblock me" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:08 | "can anyone else see the dangerous logic in georgewilliamherbert's latest statement on ANI about me (which i cant respond to) that "I am hopeful that we can start to set the precedent that if you appear on ANI too often even as the victim, there's probably something you're doing very wrong," and how this is the same mentality as "if a woman gets raped, it is probably partially her fault for putting herself in that situation." i report abuse to ANI. that is what the place is for. who cares if i've reported many people for abuse. isn't that what you are supposed to do? Theserialcomma (talk) 08:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 14:49 | "how can you 'bait' someone who committed abuse unrelated of your warnings to them? i didn't goad him into saying anything that got him blocked; he was going to be blocked regardless of who reported him. either someone will step forward and say this block of me is wrong, punitive, unnecessary, and without community consensus, or wikipedia will lose a good editor in good standing because an admin made a poor decision. i refuse to play the bureaucratic game and defend myself with diffs against an accusation that has no diffs. it's an impossible situation to argue and too much burden to place on someone. Theserialcomma (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:58 | "reducing block to 5 more days at this time, you should read ANI thread" " I recommend that you review the thread on WP:ANI in detail - there seems to be widespread agreement that your actions have been provocative and that the underlying issue of the block is valid. I hope that you take that message from the many who have commented there and work to modify your participation going forwards in a way to not provoke other editors here on Misplaced Pages. You have been a valued participant and I hope you remain so going forwards, but poking sticks at other contributors is not an acceptable hobby here. If you did not believe you were going to cause negative reactions, you need to review how you engage with people here and attempt to avoid provocative discussions. If you were doing it on purpose, you need to find another hobby - the number of senior admins who have agreed that they saw a problem indicates that further abuse will be responded to firmly. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:50 | "This is a punitive block and you're an abusive admin. Stay off my talk page. I wonder how long before you're desysopped for abuse. Theserialcomma (talk) 10:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 11:09 | "He did just reduce your block by three weeks and offer that another admin can end it entirely. If you have complaints about his behavior, that response is the least affective way of addressing them - phrasing it like that makes you look bad and would probably be used as justification or maintaining or extending the block. Some guy (talk) 11:09, 17 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:28 | "considering the fact that the block is clearly punitive, it would be no surprise if the block were maintained or extended further. moreover, half the consensus said commute to time served, teh other half said less than a week. he went with the longer block because he's punitive and abusive. blocks are meant to stop abuse. the person i supposedly baited is blocked for a month, so there is clearly no threat of me further baiting him. this is a punitive block obvious and i have no interest in playing anyone's games by pretending otherwise. thanks for the attempted help, regardless Theserialcomma (talk) 17:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:34 | "blocks are meant to stop abuse. the user i 'baited' is currently blocked for 1 month for his abuse. so, unless there is some threat of me being unblocked and instantly going to the baited user's page and baiting him more, my block should be lifted. unless my block is punitive. the only possible reason i could still be blocked, without obvious any threat of me going back to being abusive immediately, is for punishment." | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:41 | " the blocking admin claims in the ANI thread that any admin can come in and remove the block. I expect this to happen. if not, i will wait out the block and then create a new account, abandon this one, and go back to acting however i want. it will not be a new account to avoid scrutiny, but a new account to disconnect myself from the stigma this abuse perpetrated against me has created. i'll continue acting exactly as i have, but with a new name. per sockpuppetry rules, this is acceptable behavior, as long as i abandon this account. Theserialcomma (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:16 | "I don't think that account will be anything *but* a scrutiny-evading account. This user has a few stalking instances in its contributions; if you start stalking another user on your new account 2+2 will likely equal 4 and you'll be taking *another* block. The stalking in and of itself also is enough reason to block the account for a week; each day you're not actively editing Misplaced Pages is another day in which you aren't harassing innocent editors. And before you blast me for being an IRC cabal member, I strongly suggest you read over your contributions and think strongly about how other editors would see them. -Jeremy 20:16, 17 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:06 | "Reverted edits by Jéské Couriano (talk) to last version by Theserialcomma" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:33 | "just so you know, my password has been scrambled and i have a new account. pardon the incivility, but you can go fuck yourself. and enjoy your steamy chats with tothwolf on irc. did i mention that you can go fuck yourself? thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:33, 6 November 2010 (UTC)" | ||
Interactions with User:Nukes4tots
Interactions with User:Scjessey
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:12 | Removal of COI issue | "in order to ascertain whether this article has COI issues, Scjessey, it would be fair for you to approximate how much compensation you have received from dreamhost. Theserialcomma (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:28 | "That is a completely unreasonable request, and completely inappropriate for an article talk page. Being associated with the subject of the article is not a conflict of interest. The conflict occurs if that association causes an editor to violate Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines because of that association. If you are making that sort of assertion, I suggest you do so in the appropriate place. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:34 | "Consider yourself uw-npa3'd over this little gem.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:42 | "is this a joke? that's not a personal attack to ask someone who receives compensation from a company whose article they edit how much money they actually receive. is it a significant amount or insignificant amount? not a personal attack. Theserialcomma (talk) 19:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:44 | " Theserialcomma (talk) 19:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:46 | "so no one's concerned that scjessey admittedly receives financial compensation from this company and is unwilling to discuss how any details, like, for example, how much. Okay... Theserialcomma (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:02 | "(after ec) - As I have repeatedly stated, all DreamHost customers are automatically signed-up to receive compensation from the company's referral scheme. That includes all former customers, by the way. Once again, I will remind you that this is a wholly inappropriate venue to bring this up. This talk page is for discussing the content of the article, not the private financial matters of Wikipedians. If you have a grievance, I suggest you gather your evidence and open a case at WP:COIN. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:42 | Suspicious IP activity | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:59 | " Theserialcomma (talk) 20:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:05 | Good faith | "Please don't do that again. There is a user posting in the DreamHost topic with multiple IPs across multiple namespaces. I noted this fact, and made no bad faith assumption. Your use of a template on my talk page is an example of bad faith against me. Please don't misuse such templates again. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 01:19 | "Calling both me and the IP editor 'problem editors' is bad faith, and you should be blocked. good luck in your editing Theserialcomma (talk) 01:19, 19 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:22 | "jessey, with your most recent response, you called 194x144x90x118 a "problem editor" and you called the IP editor, whom you wish to disallow from posting here, a "problem editor" who made "undiscussed" changes, even though he discussed it and is not a problem editor. then when i warned you for bad faith assumptions for calling an IP editor with 3 edits problematic (when none were problematic), you reverted my warning as rv problem editor. jessey, stop this now. this is a problem. this discussion space is meant to be for improving the article. it's hard to improve the article if you are calling everyone who disagrees with you disparaging names. using a dynamic IP is not socking. having a dynamic IP is not unacceptable, or problematic. disagreeing with you is not problematic. typing "<ignore/>", as you just did to the other user, is rude. there is no 'ignore' in wikipedia. you are just antagonizing the situation. stop it. Theserialcomma (talk) 02:22, 19 August 2009 (UTC)"
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:59 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:31 | "having an arbcom filed against you does not prove guilt until the sanctions occur. so wait until they sanction him before you get to call him bad names and assume guilt. that is textbook bad faith. you are being disruptive. Stop. Theserialcomma (talk) 03:31, 19 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:35 | Your wrongness | "i've moved this thread here because i do not want you ever contacting me for any reason on my talk page. to clarify, i have no interest in ever, for any reason, discussing anything with you on my talk page. any further attempts to contact me will be considered attempts to provoke. if you want to discuss making articles better, do that on a talk page. do not contact me privately. i feel that you are harassing me. do not respond to this. Theserialcomma (talk) 03:35, 19 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:36 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:37 | " i am not under arbcom sanctions either, nor am i currently blocked. so why am i a problem user? oh, that's just bad faith and name calling from you, which is wp:uncivil. Theserialcomma (talk) 03:31, 19 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 11:49 | "User talk pages are for talking to users. If I need to contact you because you have made an ass of yourself with your misinterpretations of my activities, then I will leave a message here. Article talk pages are not appropriate for this kind of user-related activity. If you don't want me to leave messages on this talk page, you will need to modify your behavior - and that includes not telling me what I can and cannot do. If you have a problem with my conduct, file an RfC on me, but don't waste my time with silly, meaningless threats. -- Scjessey (talk) 11:49, 19 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 16:36 | "Reverted edits by Scjessey (talk) to last version by Theserialcomma" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 16:39 | "i told jessey not to contact me for any reason on my talk page, and so he immediately goes and posts a message on my talk page why he can do that whenever he wants, especially "when i make an ass out of myself]." jessey, if you dont get sanctioned by arbcom for harassment, i will be very surprised. leave me alone. do not contact me on my talk page. and stop calling people names Theserialcomma (talk) 16:39, 19 August 2009 (UTC)" |
Interactions with User:Chicago Smooth
(It seems as though WP:BITE was violated in a huge way here, and without a doubt WP:WIKIHOUNDING...)
Note: User:Chicago Smooth/Alan Roger Currie
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 01:52 | "PROD nomination of Alan Roger Currie. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:14 | "removed prod. please see the afd." | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:14 | August 2009 | "Notice: Conflict of Interest on Alan Roger Currie. (TW)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:06 | "There is no significant conflict of interest on behalf of myself (Chicago Smooth) and the subject of the article (Alan Roger Currie); I am not a relative of Mr. Currie's nor am I an employee of his company; I am simply someone who enjoys his books and believes that he is just as relevant as those in the dating and relationships field, such as Tariq Nasheed, Neil Strauss, Zan Perrion and many other dating coaches and seduction gurus. Chicago Smooth (talk) 14:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:19 | "according to your previous words ], you said you were a "close friend" of alan roger currie, and when someone offered to discuss this with you, you offered alan roger currie's email address as a way to get into contact with you. i would suggest that you read the COI guidelines again and just trust that these rules exist to make the encyclopedia better, not to keep good articles out. Theserialcomma (talk) 04:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 04:47 | "I never said I was a "close friend" of Alan Roger Currie. Have I had some Email exchanges with him? Yes. I will confess to that. I've consulted with him about the principles and philosophies in his book. Also, it was my idea to actually feature him on Misplaced Pages. I told him that I wanted to do so. He was actually very indifferent towards the idea. He just said, "make sure anything you say about me is accurate and valid." The reason I offered his Email address instead of my own was because a particular editor was challenging something about his credentials and background. And I said, if you want to know the facts about his background and credentials, then you should ask him directly. Chicago Smooth (talk) 23:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 05:35 | "i don't know why you think it's personal. i have never heard of the guy. i think if you are feeling protective over the article, which appears to be so, you should check out WP:OWN Theserialcomma (talk) 05:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:38 | "canvassingg" "judging from http://www.direct-method.com/showthread.php?t=5181, you probably should not be editing this article. Theserialcomma (talk) 22:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:13 | New proposed article for Book Author Alan Roger Currie | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 11:56 | "I am at a loss to understand why the second, improved article for Book Author Alan Roger Currie was deleted. It had citations to back up everything, unlike the original page. I don't get it. Chicago Smooth (talk) 06:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:56 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:18 | "PROD nomination of Tim Alexander (filmmaker). (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:33 | "response - Theserialcomma, you are out-of-control. Seriously. Chicago Smooth (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:43 | "sorry that you feel that way. if you add some third party, reliable sources, then it won't be AFD'd. currently there are none Theserialcomma (talk) 22:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:27 | Chicago Smooth | "Please be careful as comments like the one you added to Talk:Tim Alexander (filmmaker) are evidence of WP:WIKIHOUNDING of User:Chicago Smooth. An AfD is based on the subject of the article and not who is editing it. --Marc Kupper|talk 06:27, 7 September 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:04 | "wrong. his WP:COI and WP:Pointy creations of these articles that fail to show notability just to promote roger alan currie, and having an editor like me trying to clean up after him and notify other users so they don't get duped by a COI self-promoter, is not wikihounding. Theserialcomma (talk) 07:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:11 | "Reverted 1 edit by Chicago Smooth; Its an archived debate. please open a new POINTy AFD if you must, but do not modify the archive. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:11 | "Reverted 1 edit by Chicago Smooth; Its an archived debate. please open a new POINTy AFD if you must, but do not modify the archive. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:31 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:02 | "Marc, that is exactly what Theserialcomma is doing. He is following me all over Misplaced Pages. This is ridiculous. It takes away from the credibility of this site, and more specifically, the credibility of this editor. Chicago Smooth (talk) 09:02, 7 September 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:25 | "do something other than try to promote roger alan currie (mode 5) and start making additions to the encyclopedia that are within the charter and rules of wikipedia, and i'm all for that. but you haven't been. so shape up. no one is fooled by your subterfuge. mark won't be either if he looks at your history. Theserialcomma (talk) 09:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)" |
Interactions with User:Jéské Couriano
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
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| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 07:59 | "do not respond to jeske couriano's abusive provocations. he is an admin who also makes egregious personal attacks, thinly veiled under synonyms ]. Theserialcomma (talk) 07:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:28 | Inappropriate talk page comments | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:18 | Topic ban of Theserialcomma and Koalorka | "The innocent does not do the crime he's accused of, TSC" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:58 | "Sorry about that" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:03 | "attack" subpages that are really meant to document abuse before submitting it | "you used to have a subpage documenting what you perceived to be abuse by tothwolf. recently, I've run into a problem with an admin wikihounding/harassing me and I've decided to document it so that I can report it. the abuse goes back quite a while and it would take me a long time to track down the diffs, so i've created http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Theserialcomma/InappropriateAdmins. I was almost immediately then contacted by another admin who warned me that I might actually be attacking the admin in question by having a page like this. Would you please advise me as to whether I can continue to add diffs to this page, or if I should delete it? Thanks Theserialcomma (talk) 06:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 06:20 | "the subpage you created that i'm referencing has been deleted. even though i cannot see it, could you give me the diff so i could add it to my evidence? i was accused of being involved in the situation somehow but i wasn't, so it'd be useful. thanks. Theserialcomma (talk) 06:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:03 | "Theserialcomma, I've had no interaction with you regarding your current problems with other editors and I suggest you leave me out of it. Based on what I've been observing from my watchlist you seem to have brought it on yourself. --Tothwolf (talk) 08:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:10 | "this isn't about you, tothwolf, so you can back off now. User: Mikaey created a subpage that documented some perceived abuse by you. none of the evidence that he gathered had anything to do with my interactions with you. except, then Jeske Couriano randomly came here to tell Mikaey that there is "an agent provocateur". Jeske's exact words are "you might want to address Theserialcomma, who's been harassing and stalking (the alleged abusive user), at the same time. Whatever behavioral problems are there are aggravated specifically by TSC. Remove him from the equation and see if (the alleged user) is as evil as you would believe.". " | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:25 | "Let me be blunt, chummer: Were it not for your interesting contributions history, accusations of bias against one of THE most neutral administrators I know, and your harassment of Tothwolf and SarekOfVulcan, I wouldn't have interposed myself. However, I was here when H got chased off and JVM attempted to escalate his harassment. I don't want to see any more legit editors leaving the project because someone took undue interest in them, as you have." "It is because you have such a history that I'm even bothering to call you out. All I see in that contribs history, in between category removals, is pestering other users, including taking an unhealthy interest in Toth and SOV, accusing GWH of not being neutral, and, recently, butting into my business with an unrelated user. You are not innocent by a long shot, TSC; if you keep denying it asking for diffs you will regret asking for them. -Jeremy 20:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:13 | "please leave me alone" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 14:28 | Statement by User:Jéské Couriano | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:58 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:09 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:10 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:21 |
Interactions with User:Grsz11
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:02 | more Grsz11 inappropriateness | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 09:38 | "rollback misuse" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 16:56 | Cal PA | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:10 | "stop harassing me" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:21 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:23 | To User:Theserialcomma | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 02:02 | "you've stalked me to yet another article, just to prove a point that you aren't stalking me? strange. " | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:11 | Wiki User Grsz11's Repeated Abuses | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:58 | Re: Grsz11's repeated abuse | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:14 | "I would rather apply to your queries on your page, despite how you feel about it, so delete it if you wish...what do I care. Rollback mistakes do occur, you should know that. But the Esther Hobart Morris edit you point out was a valid rollback. The IP made this and this, both vandalism. Grsz 03:14, 27 December 2008 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 03:24 |
Interactions with User:Hm2k
Theserialcomma apparently followed me to Talk:Shell account and then baited and picked a fight with User:Hm2k, who was then blocked.
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 08:07 | Fisticuffs by three editors at Talk:Shell account | "tothwolf has a history of claiming stalking and then forum/irc shopping until an admin will do something. he did the same thing to me about a month or two ago and had an admin threaten to ban me forever. i suggest tothwolf's interactions with other editors is scrutinized more heavily. Theserialcomma (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)" | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:49 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:50 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:01 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:03 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 00:06 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:34 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:57 | Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of shell providers | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 16:19 | User: Hm2k won't stop editing/hiding comments in an AFD | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 13:52 | "one look at his talk page and the afd in question will show his extreme failure to get the point. i support a block that lasts until he agrees to stop arguing and trolling pointlessly Theserialcomma (talk) 13:52, 5 January 2010 (UTC)" |
Additional discussions & reports
Rollback
Theserialcomma clearly understands that rollback is intended for use in reverting vandalism. Theserialcomma seems to however hold a double standard in that while "warning" and threatening others of their use of "rollback" (particularly in their own userspace), Theserialcomma does the same thing. Theserialcomma also demonstratibly knows the difference between "real" rollback and the pseudo-rollback functionality offered by Twinkle, yet make reports of "rollback abuse" and threats towards others that their "rollback privlages" will be removed when they use Twinkle's pseudo-rollback.
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 01:54 | Rollback misuse from McJeff | "An editor who's using rollback should know what vandalism actually is." | |
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 22:05 | Rollback misuse | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 17:57 | "rollback misuse" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:15 | |||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:11 | recurring rollback misuse | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:45 | "rollback" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:46 | " undo is much better in content disputes anyway, cause you can leave summaries. Theserialcomma (talk) 23:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 01:29 | "Rollback warning" |
See also: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive598#Tothwolf / Theserialcomma / JBsupreme
Reverting "vandalism"
| Date (UTC) | Discussion | Quote/diff | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:13 | "Reverted edits by Nukes4Tots (talk) to last version by Theserialcomma" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 10:50 | "Reverted edits by 194.144.90.118 (talk) to last version by JavierMC" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 15:35 | "Reverted edits by SineBot (talk) to last version by 94.0.154.123" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:06 | "Reverted edits by Jéské Couriano (talk) to last version by Theserialcomma" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 19:05 | "Reverted edits by 94.192.180.215 (talk) to last version by 97.100.179.154" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 16:36 | "Reverted edits by Scjessey (talk) to last version by Theserialcomma" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 23:57 | "Reverted edits by Jéské Couriano (talk) to last version by Theserialcomma" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 20:32 | "Reverted edits by Tothwolf (talk) to last version by Prodego" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 21:46 | "Reverted 1 edit by Tothwolf identified as vandalism to last revision by Theserialcomma. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 01:20 | "Reverted 1 edit by Tothwolf identified as vandalism to last revision by Theserialcomma. (TW)" | ||
| Error in Template:Date table sorting: days must be an integer between 1 and 31 18:11 | "Reverted edits by Tothwolf (talk) to last version by Georgewilliamherbert" |