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Why do you say that Shabbaton is not a disambiguation page? It has two subjects for the same name. That it does not send us to article pages, but treats them on the page does not make any difference in this regard. Or am I perhaps not aware of some Misplaced Pages guideline? Debresser (talk) 14:01, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

See WP:DABCONCEPT. Night of the Big Wind talk 14:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Rather complicated, but I think I understand. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 14:17, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Would you have a look at my edit to Sabbatical year, please. Debresser (talk) 14:25, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

If you're interested you could also see the result of my rewrite of shabbaton. Debresser (talk)
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Careful: this edit broke the template. Be careful what you are changing in the templates you are visiting, as many things are handled in a certain way. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  ¢ 14:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

oops, forgot to revert it. I was trying to solve the links to disambiguation pages in Ontario Highway 7. Night of the Big Wind talk 16:16, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
My bad... It was actually an issue with an update to a template that the templates in Ontario Highway 7 run off of (that's a mouthful) causing almost every link to be wrong. The issue should be fixed up now. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  ¢ 16:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

360view

The website is repeatedly removed and should not be added without discussion. Unfortunately, the website does not add anything to the article. Especially adding it to articles as Brian Boru and Féile an Phobail make clear that it is far more website promo then adding something substantial to the website. So please, stop adding the website. And plaese, don't use multiple identities to do this... Night of the Big Wind talk 18:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I added link Brian Boru as to give a sense to the viewers of Brian Boru´s ancient dwelling place. The Féile an Phobail was a virtual tour of the community parade of the event. People are using nearly identical idenities as mine to delete and add spam. 360eire is non commercial website promoting the community and history of the island of Ireland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dialinn (talk • contribs) 18:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I have looked at several of your links and viewed it. Even with places I know personally (like Kilkee) it noticed that it did not add anything useful to the article. Sorry. For more information: Misplaced Pages:External links Night of the Big Wind talk 18:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the adding that information. I notice that it does add to the article of Kilkee, especially the aspect of the Currach races that are held there each summer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dialinn (talk • contribs) 18:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

May I advice you to stop pushing it? And secondly, could you plaese sign your edits on talkpage with ~~~~ (four tildes)? Those tildes will automagically be replaced by your name, date and time. Night of the Big Wind talk 18:48, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I will stop pushing it. If I add any links I will text in discussion page before hand. Thanks Dialinn (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I am disappointed that you not only keep pushing the site, but also uses sockpuppets for it. I advice you to request a voluntary block of all your sockpuppets. I am still working on the report (see the draft: User:Night of the Big Wind/sockpuppet 360view). You better ask yourself, because if I file this report you will be in serious trouble. Night of the Big Wind talk 07:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

This person is posting and deleting my posts and using a nearly identical username as me. There must be rules as to usernames. http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Diallin Dialinn (talk) 19:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The best thing you can do is report them at usernames for administrator attention. Which I'm guessing that you may have done in the past, and it was unsuccessful (based on their talk page). However there does seem to be a clear pattern and so action may be more likely now. --Mrmatiko (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

External link.

Will you please explain your reasoning for removing the link repeatedly, and who you suspect of being a sock puppet. So far you have not explained either.--Dmol (talk) 09:03, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Stil working on it, but here is the explanation: User:Night of the Big Wind/sockpuppet 360view Night of the Big Wind talk 09:05, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I find it offensive that I have been listed as a sockpuppet on the list. Have a look at my history and you will see that I have been on Misplaced Pages with only that name for several years. Please remove me immediately.--Dmol (talk) 09:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
As I said, I am still working on it. Some pollution during processing is evitable. Night of the Big Wind talk 09:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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List of culinary nuts

Hi and Happy New Year! You participated in the FLC discussion for List of culinary nuts a while back. The discussion is flagging a bit. There's no negative input to speak of, but I'm concerned that not enough people have actually come out in support. Given that the objections you raised have been addressed, would you consider registering a support vote? Waitak (talk) 19:19, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

IQ

Season greetings! It looks like the participants of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of national IQ estimates from Lynn and Vanhanen (2002, 2006) did not know that National IQ estimates was also supposed to be included in the debate. Maybe a renomination of National IQ estimates would be appropriate? Arbitrarily0  00:52, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Your MfD nomination

I've closed the deletion discussion you opened at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Category talk:Deaths from myocardial infarction. From what I gather, you were attempting to nominate the category itself for deletion, but instead, you nominated the category's talk page. If you wish to nominate the category for deletion, you should open a discussion at Misplaced Pages: Categories for discussion.--Fyre2387 19:13, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Irish people of British (sic) descent

Firstly, I must apologise for adding the category to far too many articles. Once again, my enthusiasm got the better of me. It would have being better if I created articles on the surnames concerned, all of which demonstrate British ancestry (I mean British in both sences - Cymric speakers from Strathclyde/Cumbria/Wales/Cornwall/Isle of Man, and people from the island of Britan). Breathnach, Walsh, Wallace, and related names belong in this broad category. I also included people who bore surnames of French or English surnames, or who had a parent or grandparent who was French or English, in similar categories. Regarding Isabel de Clare, I thought that as she was part-Welsh it would be obvious that she was of British descent. Shall I revert all the articles, or have you already done so? Thanks for your input, and especially your courtesy! Is mise, Fergananim (talk) 04:15, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Does this - Breathnach - help explain the matter? Fergananim (talk) 05:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Not really. Several people have been reverting your edits because in most cases there was no clear proof of the British or French descent. Night of the Big Wind talk 10:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Glad to hear they are reverted, but surely the evidence of the surnames indicates the heart of the matter? I did at least restrain myself to surnames of demonstrable British, Welsh, French and English descent. In the case of the Pearse brothers, their father was English, as was Liam Mellows's father. De Valera's father was of Spanish descent. Fergananim (talk) 22:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Is not that a bit far fetched? Or would you say the I am a "Dutchman of County of Hainaut descent" because a few of my ancesters came from Mons? In this case, ten and eleven generations back... Night of the Big Wind talk 23:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2012 January 7

I am just letting you know that I've responded to your review. Thank you. --Bryce (talk | contribs) 04:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

RfC on schools

Hi, friend. I take it you're moving forward on an RfC on the question of notability of schools, yes? I'm actually all in favor of this and would like to co-sponsor it and help write the question in such a way that we get a clear A Scenario or B Scenario result. Drop me a line if you'd like on my talk page. Carrite (talk) 18:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

In fact it was NickCT who came up with the RfC. I have asked him if he is going to launch it and he agreed upon that. No matter what the outcome, it would be nice to have a clear cut decision. As I see it we would have three options: a) articles have to satisfy WP:GNG, b) articles as to satify a set of rules, slightly lower then WP:GNG and c) articles do not have to satisfy WP:GNG as long as they can prove to exist. (maybe a bit crude description, I know) I could be an idea to help NickCT and launch the RfC as a triumvirate. Night of the Big Wind talk 18:29, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll just point out that Nick's 'first' RfC ignored the first suggestion of a proper RfC proposal that was come up with here. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
I can imaging that. If you say that "just stick to WP:GNG is not a neutral proposal", it shows a mighty disrespect for the community that came up with WP:N and WP:GNG and turns your proposal in a joke. Night of the Big Wind talk 20:23, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Just a thought and a question

Seeing so many Michelin-starred head chef passing by, I am politely panicking by the idea to have to describe them all. The number of restaurants is already about 300, the number of starred head chefs will be at least the double. That idea is too much, even for me.

So the question is, what should be a good cut off point? Only chefs who have earned stars in 10+ years? Only chefs who have earned stars in 5+ years? Something in between? Off course, they have to satisfy WP:GNG and have adequate sourcing. That will knock quite a few of the list. Many chefs just wanted to be a chef, not a celebrity.

Any advice welcome! Night of the Big Wind talk 05:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

You can choose whatever personal criteria you wish to use to decide what to write about. My suggestion is to write about the notable chefs and restaurants you care about. If you have passion about the topic, the article will be better. Thank you for improving our coverage of Michelin starred restaurants and chefs. Cullen Let's discuss it 08:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

January 2012

Before adding a category to an article, as you did to User:Night of the Big Wind/Workpage16, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Misplaced Pages's categorization guidelines. Categories must also be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Thank you. Please remove the article categories from your user page drafts per: WP:USERNOCAT. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Getting bored? Night of the Big Wind talk 03:31, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
No. If were, I would have listed them all. I was actually looking in good faith to see if you had drafted anything that could help us resolve this schools notability issue. WP:USERNOCAT is a policy, please remove them. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:56, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Looking for this: User:Night of the Big Wind/Notability of schools? Night of the Big Wind talk 05:25, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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Buckaroos

Hi, just an FYI that I am trying to see what we can do on that disambig page, all in good faith. I'm not the disambiguation expert, just wanting the original, primary use first. The other alternative would be to restore the (disambig) page back for disambiguation and redirect the title to cowboy, but I fear that would create yet more edit-warring every time someone did a search on buckaroo and landed at the cowboy article. Seems making the main word into the disambig will lessen future wiki-wars. At least, that's my thinking. Normally I'm a fan of ], but in this case I think my general solution will minimize the drama. Montanabw 04:44, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for the support with the reverts. DubhEire (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Hans Marchand

I'm sorry to see that the article on Hans Marchand (in a state much as it is now) struck you as confusing and in need of copyediting. What kind of confusion did you encounter? -- Hoary (talk) 10:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Unclear text. BTW: I don't like when people laugh about my comments. I take it as a PA! Night of the Big Wind talk 11:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, yes, but what was or is unclear about it? -- Hoary (talk) 11:06, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

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Financial costs of the American Revolutionary War

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I am just confused on why you added this tag. The article has plenty of references. OKelly (talk) 03:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

The essential question is: does the subject merit a stand alone article or could it better be merged with an article about the American Revolutionary War. Looking at the many questions for clarification/sources, there is plenty of work to do. Night of the Big Wind talk 08:01, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
While I'm waiting for your reply on Hans Marchand, allow me to quote from the shortest section of this financial costs article in the form it was in when you found it:
France had similar financial burdens to Great Britain during the war, in the fact that debt from the American Revolutionary War was piled upon already existing debts outstanding from the Seven Years' War. The French spent 1.3 billion ''livres'' on war costs. When the war ended, France had accumulated a debt of 3,315.1 million ''livres'',<ref>Conway (1995) p. 242</ref> a huge fortune in those days. / The debt caused major economic and political problems for France. The country struggled to pay debts and eventually caused the Financial Crisis of 1786,<ref>Marston (2002) p. 82</ref> which in turn became one of the factors that caused the ]<ref>Tombs (2007) p. 179</ref> in 1789.
Surely the sourcing could be improved, as could the prose. But how is this grievously undersourced? How would it be better inside an article on the very large subject of the American Revolutionary War? ¶ Meanwhile, I hope that the minimal content of the sadly stubby proto-article on Hans Marchand is now at least free of confusion. (Perhaps you would care to work on one or other of these articles.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)