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New classification introduced

I've established minor parties section (as corresponding fr.wiki article has); the obvious reason for this move is that considering the plentitude of 'very minor' parties (Nouvelle Action Royaliste) in wikipedia, the table could become full after adding links to these minor ones. (some parties marked as 'minor' before, such as Mouvement pour la France, Rassemblement pour la France etc have their MPs and considerable influence, which Rassemblement démocrate and some communist groupings do not possess. These should have a special section now.) --Constanz - Talk 15:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I've kept all 4 green parties in the main parties section; it's unclear which of these have no remarkable influence. I've retained remarks 'minor' in the table as well; the term is relative and remains useful.--Constanz - Talk 15:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Moved 3 of them to minor section. On Les Verts is relevant nowadays. David.Monniaux 17:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)Ã

Major & Minor parties

There probably needs to be a re-evaluation of major and minor parties. France is moving closer towards a 'two-party' system.

Legislative elections

1997 - RPR (15.7) + PS (23.5) = 39.2%

2002 - UMP (33.3) + PS (24.1) = 57.4%

2007 - UMP (39.5) + PS (24.7) = 64.2%

UMP & PS definitely the 2 major parties in France.

National Front (FN) is a borderline case (low legislative result in 2007 but reasonably good results in presidential 2007 and in 2002 presidential/legislative elections). Probably major?

Communist Party

2002 - 4.8%

2007 - 4.3%

Low popular vote, but manages to win a fair number of seats. I think they are now a minor party.

Les Verts (Greens) - minor

UDF/MoDem/NC

2002 - UDF - 4.9%

2007 - MoDem - 7.6% /NC - 2.4%

NC cannot be considered major party, having got only 2.4% of vote (even though they will win a fair number of seats). MoDem is a 'new' party contesting 1st election, so it might still be premature to make a call as to whether it is major or minor.Mrodowicz 21:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The fact that the RPR+PS only account for 39.2%, was the in 1997 the UDF was still a major party. A better comparison would be RPR+UDF+PS in this case --Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 13:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC--142.165.117.74 (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Petrovic-Njegos - My point was that France appears to be moving towards a mild 2-party system, and that there is probably a need to reevaluate the status of the other parties. The last 2 elections (particularly the last), seem to indicate this. I'm inclined to say (and this may still be a little premature - we may have to wait for 1 more election) that the only real major parties appear to be the UMP and PS. The others (MoDem, FN, Communists and Greens) would probably be better classified as "significant minor parties" to distinguish them from the numerous micro-parties contesting elections in France. Mrodowicz (talk) 07:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

MPF & RPF

Both Parties are not as "far-right" as the Front National or the MNR. They are both "govermental right" and connected to the UMP. You should change the declariations into "far-right" and "govermental-right". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.171.165.200 (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I personally think that it's a mistake to put the far-right and the EU-sceptics together. I propose that we split those two categories and place MNR and FN under far-right and MPF and RPF under euro-sceptic. Does anybody have other proposals? J-C V (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC) --142.165.117.74 (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)(!!!Dillion Merasty rox!!!)--142.165.117.74 (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I've done it now. J-C V (talk) 22:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Party classifications

The party classification is not totally correct. For example, the Left Party never was, and the French Communist Party is no longer a "far-left party" since aeons.

A first rough of correction could look like this:

(I've forgot to sign, sorry, Captain frakas (talk) 01:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC))

-> The democratic movement is not a "significant protester" because it's a government'party. He govern in Region or in "communes" with other party like UMP or socialist party... it's bad judgment and caricature. --87.218.116.150 (talk) 18:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

This classification is much better than the one currently used in the article. Let's proceed the change, then let's correct this table above. What about having in the table all the parties that have at least one regional, parliement, European, senat representant instead of the "minor" description? The other parties can be considered as minor. Also, for the sake of clarity, we could indicate only the president of the party instead of couple of notable people. We can create another part in the article for the former parties instead of adding them in this table. --D0kkaebi (talk) 02:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

The change is done but based on this form, I would like to propose a new presentation.

• First table: Title "Nationaly represented parties" with all parties that have at least one representative at the European Parliament, national assembly or senate. Parties will be shown in order of importance meaning, number of elected people at European Parliament, national assembly and senate.
• Second table: Title "Minor parties" with all other parties with number of regional and municipal councilors if possible. Parties will be shown from Left to right.

Waiting your suggestion, if none I would proceed the change. --D0kkaebi (talk) 01:23, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Nationwide represented parties

Locally represented parties

minor parties

Regional parties

I would think that ideally, we could add number of cantonal elected people from French cantonal elections, 2011 for each parties people and rank the parties by order of elected person as I did above. --D0kkaebi (talk) 06:58, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

I created a minor parties section for parties without any running mandates to any elections. These 2 above are to be completed. --D0kkaebi (talk) 08:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC) Added all minor parties from the article. --D0kkaebi (talk) 08:31, 9 April 2012 (UTC) Finally I seperated the regional parties from the nationwide parties. I believe it would be better to make a part seperated for each region than mixing them with the nationwide parties. --D0kkaebi (talk) 08:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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