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Sunni Sufis and Salafi Jihadism

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:41, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The fact that this article is made solely to attack and slander several religious movements - Salafi, Deobandi and Ahl al-Hadith among them - and expressly promote the views of another movement - Sufism, specifically Barelvi - is enough in and of itself. On top of that, the information here is already contained largely on articles for Salafist jihadism as well as articles for the various Muslim religious movements which this article seems designed to portray in a negative light. The article's topic itself has not been the subject of enough scholarly or academic discussion or media attention to warrant a separate article, and indeed the title as well as the content insinuates that followers of the Salafist subcategory of Sunni Muslims aren't even Sunnis at all. Such a biased, overtly negative article cannot possibly be edited or sourced in a way that would ever make the tone neutral given the "topic," so to speak. This article falls into criteria number six at WP:DEL-REASON, in addition to being a WP:SOAPBOX and containing a great deal of Misplaced Pages:No original research which could never be sourced and would result in cutting down most of the article. That would be after, of course, the theoretical title change to something less accusatory and inflammatory and the removal of what this article is essentially about. It's a blatant attempt to slander and insult several movements at once, and the only reasons I am brining this to AfD instead of speedy deletion is 1. I expect the creator of the article to want a discussion first, and 2. it was brought to my attention recently that I am not the most informed editor at this time when it comes to deletion policy and I don't want to be hasty. In a clear attempt to slander religious movements, however, a mere talk page discussion isn't enough. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:34, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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Need of Article-Salafist Jehadism Policies on Sufis have created a deep divide in Islam across the World.

1.Salafist view Sufis as heretic and do all attempts to destroy their Tombs and Shrines.They are involved in large scale Killing their Prominent Scholars in 2.Pakistan,Chechenya,Afghanistan,India,Somalia,Kashmir,Mali etc. 3.They are destructing their Islamic heritage. 4.This Article does not try to Potray them in negative lights,the tone is very much neutral and it can be edited.Calling some one Sufi Sunni does not meant that others are not Sunnis.It is about Sufis who are Sunnis. 5.Voices are going loud by Sufi Sunnis day by day.Sufi Scholar Kichowchhwi has warned Indian Muslims previously of Wahhabi infiltration of their institutions. Early last year he called on moderates to "liberate our properties"—referring to 10,000 shrines, mosques, and madrassas invaded successfully by the radicals in Uttar Pradesh,India.

For ex- 80% of Indian Muslims followed the Sunni Sufi tradition. AIUMB, a Sufi body also released a memorandum urging the external affairs ministry of India to ask the Saudi Arabian government to stop "destroying historical places and preserve sites associated with the Prophet, his family and his Sahabas (companions)".

Kashmir-Changing discourse Prominent Sufi Shrine was set on fire by SalafisThe Dastageer Sahib shrine in Srinagar caught fire last June. Its destruction led to tensions with the Salafis.

India-Sufi clerics issue call to reject hardline Wahabis.-

Pakistan has witnessed hundreds of Attacks on Sufi culture by Salafist and their associates.See Article
Mali-Posted on Friday, 21 December 2012 19:12-Sufism and Salafism, Mali's deep religious divide.
Egypt-Situation has worsen here after changing of Government-The Islamic Research Centre, led by Grand Imam of Al-Azhar Ahmed El-Tayeb, has also sharply renounced the attacks on the shrines. Gaber Qassem, deputy of the Sufi Orders, stated that around 14 shrines have been violated since the January 2011 revolution. Again as reported by al-Ahram, the Sufi community is mobilizing a unified front to protect the hundreds of shrines across Egypt. Sheikh Tarek El-Rifai, head of the Rifai Sufi Order, said that a number of Salafis have also allegedly prevented Sufi prayers in Al-Haram. Sheikh Rifai said that the order's lawyer has filed a report at the Al-Haram police station to that effect.

Salafis have been fighting Sufis for ages. They accuse them of polytheism and unbelief for revering the Sufi sheikhs and building mosques at their shrines. The recent dhikr ban is not the first victory for Salafi thought over moderate Sufism. They regularly call for the banning of all moulids and dhikr ceremonies, and succeeded in this respect last year when the moulid of al-Sayyida Zeinab, the prophet's Muhammad's granddaughter, was banned.

Salafi destruction of shrines and public property unacceptable-Mufti Ali Goma Numerous reports have been given by sources maintaining that some shrines have been destroyed by elements from the Salafi groups sparking angry demonstrations in Alexandria.

Libiya-Democracy Arrives in Libya: Sufi religious sites attacked and destroyed by Salafis.

UnescoThe United Nations cultural agency Unesco has urged Libyan authorities to protect Sufi mosques and shrines under repeated attack by hardliners who consider the traditional mystical school of Islam heretical.

Dagestan-Sufi scholar, 5 others killed in Dagestan suicide bomb attack.

As a cleric in the Sufi Brotherhood, Afandi was a key leader in the sect of Islam traditionally popular in the North Caucasus but despised by Islamic fundamentalists, who practice a puritanical form of Islam known as Salafism. While Sufis incorporate the worship of saints and highly theatrical ceremonial prayers into their practice, Salafis condemn what they regard as idolatry and any non-traditional forms of worship.

Comments-Salafis have tried to impose their version of Islam Where ever they could do.They also call for the establishment of Islamic rule.In this regard they are killing Sufi Scholars and destroying Sufi shrines across the world.They are banning Sufi Practices by calling them Un Islamic.The relation between the two have worsen and have taken ugly turns.Moderate Sufis have not formed their militias to fight Salafis.The Article is on notable subject which is a subject of huge debates.Only Some supporters would deny this fact. Shabiha (talk) 08:53, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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