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Quotes in citations

As per the discussion on Misplaced Pages talk:Citing sources/Archive 19#Quotes in references and per WP:COPYVIO I will remove the quotes within the citations. This will also make the article a bit shorter (especially the references section) and easier to edit.

Cheers, pedrito - talk - 04.07.2008 06:18


However, its founding charter, writings, and many of its public statements reflect an incontrovertible evidence of Anti-zionism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhizabr (talkcontribs) 20:32, 2 January 2009

Was Hamas created in 1976, 1987, 1988?

1976

The Oxford World Encyclopedia: "Hamas¶ The Islamic Resistance Movement founded in 1976 by Sheikh Yassin Ahmed, with the aim of creating an Islamic state in the former Palestine. "

1987:

Misplaced Pages: "Hamas was created in 1987 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi and Mohammad Taha of the Palestinian wing of the Muslim Brotherhood at the beginning of the First Intifada."

The Corporate Security Professional's Handbook on Terrorism: "Hamas was a splinter group of the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood and was created as a separate organization in 1987."

1988

http://www.ajc.org/atf/cf/%7B42D75369-D582-4380-8395-D25925B85EAF%7D/HAMAS2006.PDF: Hamas is a creation of the Palestinian branch of the extremist Muslim Brotherhood movement. The organization was created in 1988 by the late Sheikh 11 Ahmad Yassin, the Hamas ideologue and founder who was then a preacher of the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood movement in Gaza. In concurrence with his teachings, Yassin and his followers formed Hamas as the “military wing” of the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood. 86.68.157.246 (talk) {BG}; edited: 86.68.157.246 (talk) {BG}

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.68.157.246 (talkcontribs) 14:55, 4 January 2009

For 1987 I can add that it is mentioned that: 'Hamas was founded in 1987 (during the First Intifada)'. The first intifada started at December 1987 in that case Hamas was established on December 1987, When exactly? Maybe with the first manifest?

Both Filiue and Tamimi give December 14, 1987 as the date for the formal establishment of Hamas. Tamimi claims this was the date for the first communique signed Hamas, although according to Filiue, Hamas was not recognized as the official name for the Islamic resistance movement until February 1988.

RfC: Canada's designation of Hamas

The argument is in regard to whether the wording used by the primary source should be used in the infobox. Or that the article should use an interpretation of the primary source that is supported by some secondary sources. See section above for discussion to date.

terrorism cats

Thanks DS, you're right, I didn't mean to remove the other cats. As far as including it in a Terrorism in Israel category, we already have the neutrally named Category:Palestinian militant groups. Further, the category Category:Terrorism in Israel is for articles whose subject is actual terrorism in Israel. No other group is listed there, at least they werent until somebody added a bunch of articles to it. nableezy - 04:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Broken Citations

Is there a generally accepted way to fix broken citations? Chani916 (talk) 12:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

If you mean broken in the sense that the URLs no longer work, using archive.org is accepted. Sean.hoyland - talk 18:30, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Marco 2 en (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Mlpearc (open channel) 00:31, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
  1. "The Origins of Hamas: Militant Legacy or Israeli Tool?". Journal of Palestine Studies. 41 (3): 54–70. 2012. doi:10.1525/jps.2012.XLI.3.54. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  2. Tamimi, Azzam (2007). Hamas: a history from within ( ed.). Northampton, Mass.: Olive Branch. ISBN 978-1566568241.
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