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Buck Woodward

I'm confused why you marked Buck Woodward's page as a not notable internet columnist? Buck is a major contributor to one of the few really reliable Pro Wrestling internet sites.

/Archive 1: April 2005 - March 2006

Christie Hemme

You edited out my change of Christy's engagement citing that I need a source. How do I denote what the source is? Thanks.

Mickie James

What proof do you have that it is actually her, that is any more undisputable than my discussion with an editor at the magazine who took the photos? Unless you have a direct quote from either Mickie James or the publisher of the magazine, or even the photographer of the photos (R.B. Kane) stating that they are of her, then you have no truth.

IIRC, you recently did an edit which stated that the Wiki page was no place for rumors to be posted. You have no legitimate proof that these photos are of Mickie James, that makes it rumor, and thus it is not right to attempt to link her as an adult model.

Redirect

Hi! Regarding this edit... Please be careful to specify edit summaries when creating redirects. In the Vandal Fighter it popped up as a massive deletion of text (one of the most common forms of vandalism) and the lack of an edit summary forced me (and probably a few other editors) to visually check the diff to see that it is a legit edit. Thank you! --Misza13 15:24, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Powerslam

Powerslam isn't a credible source? How come? It's been going since 92ish, and didn't fall under kafebe like most other maagazines.(Halbared 12:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

Nah, it's OK, I'll just leave them as be, I don't want to get into any online arguments aboot it. I just liked having things exact. Powerslam did a thing a while back aboot getting the stats right for wrestlers. Sid was in it, and Nash, tho Undie wasn't, that was a guestimate going off Nash's true height.(Halbared 16:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

One helluva wikipedian

Damn dude, you are one helluva wikipedian. Good job, on all your work. (By the way how long have you been writing articles for wikipedia, anyway.) Seems like a long time. Jman5 23:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Three cheers to McPhail. Bcarlson33 15:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Please maintain the fact I inserted about "Tripple H". It was going around the Internet a lot in 1997 and many IWCers insisted it had this nonsensical spelling for some reason.

I did, however, move it to the trivia section where it is a better fit. Thank you.

Glen jacobs he was called the new/fake Diesel You can't call him Diesel because it would confuse people . you have to remember their is kevin Nash who used the gimmick Diesel which he is the original.--Micheal21 20:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Konnan

Hi McPhail, i placed Konnan up for a Misplaced Pages:Good articles nomination its not a featured article yet but hopefully this will help it on its way -- Paulley 17:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

its the "Convert "Finishing and signature moves" and "Managers" to tables and integrate into the text, like Saffron#Chemistry." that is a problem i just dont really think it could really work in this context --- Paulley 17:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Konnan is now considered a "good article" also the user that granted this article that distinction suggested we should look into distinguishing fact from Kayfabe see Talk:Konnan for more. --- Paulley 16:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I see you have had a crack at putting the intergrated text things in and cleaned up the article...good work --- Paulley 19:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I would hold off for a second, i see two (really non acceptable) wrestling articles have been posted for Featured Article... currently they are getting walked over so i think we should wait until they have been removed before adding another wrestling article. I dont want this well written article to be objected just because of the standards of others--- Paulley 19:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it might be time to try Konnan for featured article--- Paulley

Lol, i like how the Featured Article thing now reads like there is too much referencing... it's almost like they dont want a wrestling article to be in the top 10% of wikipedia --- Paulley 16:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

yea i guess there is that... (so much to revert, and so little time in the day) --- Paulley

Match Capitilization

Here is your proof that specialty matches should be capitalized. I would appreciate it if you would stop reverting my edits dealing with this issue. Thank you. Eenu (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Obsessed with Wrestling

What is your stance on including information from this website? I've come across several editors in the Wrestling Project who refer to this website as practically a bible of sorts. I've had one user tell me to use stats given on that site (specifically height/weight of wrestlers) over information from wwe.com because WWE tends to blow their stats out of proportion. The only reason I ask is because I noticed you removed a link to Shawn Michael's OOW profile from his article. We need some sort of a standard, just looking for your thoughts. --Naha| 20:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I replied to your comments on my talk page, thanks --Naha| 21:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

signature moves

I see Bret use the spike piledriver in matches in 1990s , for example in the match in "your house 97" (Bret hart vs Vader vs Stone Cold vs The Undertaker), bret hart used a spike piledriver (stone cold). If it is not true, forgive McPhail i don't to vandalize

Spike Piledrive

Thanks McPhail for the answer. Can I change the dates? Spartan Hoplite

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I thought I was helping, the article was up for deletion. Jman5 23:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania 22

Stop changing the heading for the 18-man battle royal. It's done that way to stay consistent with WrestleMania 21. You typically do not spell out numbers greater than ten (you have to admit it did look kinda funny when it is seen as "Eighteen-man"). OutRider2003 00:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I added DVD Release to it because I think it's safe to assume that the Interpromotional Battle Royal will be on the WrestleMania 22 DVD, much like what they did with the WM21 DVD when they had the 30 man Battle Royal. Other than that, try looking at the definition of a noun again because the Interpromotional Battle Royal should be capitalized, and if you're so uptight about it, go fix the WrestleMania 21 page then. OutRider2003 10:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

See Talk:Dalip Singh#Edit war Discussion. Try convincing RockmanX why your changes shouldn't be reverted, I guess. He's been making some weird edits and recently blanked your talk page but it couldn't hurt to try anyway. This drawn-out edit war is getting annoying. –Tifego _{04:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)}

Dalip Singh

If the image on his page is "fair use", where was it found? The Phenomenal One 02:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Easter

WrestleMania 22 article format

I've noticed that the article has an unnecessary amount of italics. These italics make the article seem out of the format in which other WrestleMania articles are written. Please understand that this article is just like any other WrestleMania article and should not be written any differently. If the format you revert the article to is different from the format of other WrestleMania articles, please be prepared to rewrite the other WrestleMania articles to that format. But before any more changes are made, please discuss this in the article's talk page. Thank you. -3bulletproof16 15:31, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Please see Super Bowl, World Series. -3bulletproof16 16:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

WrestleMania is no film. Please see Super Bowl XL, 2005 World Series. -3bulletproof16 16:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Once again, WrestleMania is not...

• Books
• Comic strips and webcomics
• Computer and video games
• Court cases
• Films
• Long poems/epic poems
• Musical albums
• Named passenger trains
• Orchestral works
• Periodicals (newspapers, journals, and magazines)
• Plays
• Ships
• Ship class
• Television series
• Works of visual art (except sculpture)

though it may not be a sporting event, it does not fall into any of these categories. Please see StarrCade and Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (titles)-Neither-3bulletproof16 16:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

IMDB categorises each WrestleMania as a video release not a film -3bulletproof16 16:46, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

User:JB196

He claims to be the person who made OWW and he wants credit for move list on wiki.. see here... placing an "i did this" style tag on articles even ones that are already referenced to the site --- Paulley

yea i have mentioned that to him during reverts and on his talk page but he seems pretty intent. --- Paulley 19:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Eric Young

If Eric Young is not considered X Division, then why is he on Team Canada's World X Cup team? --JFred 20:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but since the 2004 World X Cup, Bobby Roode has been pushed as a heavyweight, and is not on the 2006 roster, so he should be kept as a heavyweight. --JFred 20:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

markish headings?

How on earth were those "markish?" If anything, they took some of the kayfabe out of the article. youngamerican (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the whole article seems a bit mark-tastic. The article should be on Jacobs, not Kane. As it stands, the article reads like something out of an Apter mag. youngamerican (talk) 20:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll give you that one, but you reverted other stuff I added. youngamerican (talk) 20:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I'm sorry about that. I just read my replies and I didn't mean to come across as so bitchy. I think I will take a wikibreak until some stress subsides. Again, sorry about that. youngamerican (talk) 20:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Great Work

Your contributions to the wrestling articles are impressive. Great Work.

Two Schools of Thought

McPhail, there are two schools of thought on this issue. The correct way to list people is by last name. But you can also list people by given name or stage name. I have seen lists where they were done both ways. fishhead2100 April 28, 2006 11:06AM (UTC)

You can go ahead and fix up the World Class Championship Wrestling alumni if you so desire. fishhead2100 April 29, 2006 2:15PM (UTC)

Bret Hart

All right, I hear you. But him learning the Sharpshooter from Konnan isnt on there, and there are other things that arent. Can I include those?

• • Re: All right, cool

PLEASE ASSIST, WRESTLING FANS OF WIKIPEDIA

Me and the soon to be departing (hopefully not) Moe Epsilon are setting up a project to deal with the music of this great business. It will be Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Music of wrestling. Join if you are remotely interested - every little helps! Thanks. Kingfisherswift 17:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

This is Moe

RockmanX

Hey McPhail, not sure if there's anything you can do to help, but I don't think that the images on Dalip Singh were actually created by RockmanX, especially the second one that shows his current look in the WWE because that exact same pic can be found on his official WWE profile. Even though he claims he is the creator, RockmanX doesn't cite anything to prove that he is indeed the creator and when I called him on it, he started acting like an ass. Let me know what you think. The Styles Clash 08:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Mines45 report on WP:RFI

Leaving asside the issues of not leaving edit summaries, discussing any edits, and removal of warnings (none of those good things, but not blockable in their own right) - are there some recent edits you can point to that specifically are vandalism as defined by WP:VAND? Failing that any WP:3RR violations? If so I'll be able to take action a lot quicker, otherwise it'll have to be treated as dispute (i.e. using dispute resolution procedure). Petros471 18:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try and think of something :) Let's see how much of RFI I can clear tonight... Petros471 18:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I got a most interesting email today, it made my decision to block Mines45 that much easier! I've given a week block; let's see if that has any effect on editing patterns on return. Petros471 16:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Rob Van Dam

Wow, a {{test}} for deleting a redlink to a band from an article? The theme tune was either by Pantera or Kilgore. I can certainly vouch for the fact that Pantera made the song famous. Who are Kilgore? Presumably you're asserting they meet WP:MUSIC by creating the redlink, per "What should not be linked" on WP:CONTEXT. Hopefully you can edit the article to reflect actual facts?? Nice one, Deizio talk 23:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ignorance. I look forward to reading the entry on Kilgore. Deizio talk 01:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

ECW FTW Heavyweight Championship

I reverted to your version from anon edits made today ECW FTW Heavyweight Championship and would appreciate your review. -- Paleorthid 23:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Scott Keith

Explain how my addtions were "nonsense" by any reasonable definition of the word. --TheTruthiness 23:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Then why did you remove my link to wrestler Marky Mark's wiki entry? Tons of people have edited the wiki entry to comment on Keith's weight, he obviously is overweight and it is stated as a fact (not an attack) about Keith, which it is. And it seems to mean something, based on all the edits to mock his large girth. And weight is also mentioned in Louie Anderson's wiki entry to name one. Regardless, saying a fat person is fat is hardly "nonsense". --TheTruthiness 01:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I figured some people keep vandalizing it due to the overmoderation that's occoured previously. I was hoping adding the fact he is fat (and not just a pound or two, let's be honest) might deter many of the people who overcompensate (ie FATTY FAT FAT FAT edits) over some very poor moderation on that entry. There's Keith fanboys who remove fair entries on criticism on Keith's writings, and Keith haters who try to work in fat jokes every paragraph. Then there's wikimods who believe any negative entry is "vandalism" regardless of actual truth. I'm trying to be some middle ground, I like Keith's writing but definataly understand the negative things many people bring up.

Re: TNA Roster, Stables

While I agree with listing alphabetically by name within the stables, I believe that those that have leadership positions should have their leaders listed first. It looks more aesthetically pleasing and logically ordered that way, in my opinion. -Darryl Hamlin 17:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you're saying. Granted, in these cases it's not so ambiguous, but I do see what you mean. -Darryl Hamlin 23:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Davey Boy Smith

That is what Meltzer said in his book. Meltzer is on good terms with the Hart family so if he had any doubt, he could get it checked by Bret or Ross. --Darren Jowalsen 22:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Batista

Why have you added an old picture of batista that you can just barely see him. To me i think its a horrible picture its dark and you cant really see him and the fact his holding the world heavyweight championship shows how old it is. Why cant there be aleast an up to date picture of him, whether its free use or anything. Please explain why there has to be a really old picture instead of an upto date picture that is better quality and you can clearly see him. Lil crazy thing 11:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Triple H - Steve Austin disambiguation

Why did you undo the disambiguation of Steve Austin on the Triple H page? The way I had left it, it still said "Steve Austin" in the article, but the link pointed to the correct place. Now after your change, the link points to the "Steve Austin" disambiguation page. The article should link directly to the page on the wrestler, not to the disambiguation page. Dsreyn 16:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Imerpial/metric

Uk is part of the EU and so we trade and do other things in metric. Have you ever been to a wreslting event here and had the wreslters annouced in metric? As far as wrestling/boxing/MMA goes, it's still a non-entity.(Halbared 23:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC))

oD McPhail, with that name I thought you were British! I guess with that answer you are not! Imperial system is the British system. Yes the UK is part of the EU, and yes our official measurement for 'some' things is metric. But we use our own system in wrestling not because of the US (Brit wrestling died in 1988 but is now making a comeback) but because we always have. Likewise boxing and MMA. I don't know if you know this, but on the whole the Brits don't like metric and don't use it unless they have to. I am not geting political here, but it remains fact that for everyday use the UK still retains Imperial. No-one tells anyone their height in metric! The UK is not like the rest of Europe, e.g. Finland where Lakes is from. And this is still seen in sporting activity like boxing, wrestling, and the rest. The rest of the world uses metric, and we understand it, but we still primarily use imperial in everyday use.(Halbared 23:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC))

The fact that wreslting/boxing is announced in imperial is not anecdotal though. Are there any other Brit wreslting editors that you of?(Halbared 23:28, 3 June 2006 (UTC))

Hiya McPhail. Lakes has initiated a vote, as to whether Canada/Oz/NZ/UK should have metric or imperial first. If you could spare the time could you pop over and vote? Thanking you, regards.(Halbared 09:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC))

Terry Gerin

It is close to semi-protect, but not yet enough. I have it in my watchlist and will keep an eye on it. -- Kim van der Linde

You know that world better than I do, do you expect that the rumor mill will increase in the coming days? -- Kim van der Linde 14:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I look during the day and often in the eveing at times at wikipedia just to see if there is anything needed. The fastest way to get my attention is to drop a line at my talk, and I will have a look at the page at the same time. I will semi-protect the page if it is needed. The criteria is roghtly 8 to 10 reverts per day for semiprotection, and if we are going to do it sooner, to many pages get protected and we better make editing of IP-numbers impossible to start with. It is a nessecary evil between being open and avoid things like this. -- Kim van der Linde 17:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that pointing editors to WP:ISNOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball might help with some in not reinseting the stuff over and over again. -- Kim van der Linde 17:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Seems to go pretty good the last days, I am going to take it of my watchlist, if you need assistence, you know where to find me. -- Kim van der Linde 01:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Adam Copeland

Why did you remove my addition of the information that Edge/Adam received a botched bump from Tommy Dreamer? Please reply on my talk page. --Antoshi~! 01:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

However, it's true, and you, as a wrestling fan should know that. I agree with you on the "Luckily" aspect, although not on anything else. I've seen bumps like that before, and Adam was dangerously close to being paralyzed as other wrestlers before him. It is career-ending, that's not a question, but explain to me how "The extent of his injury is unknown," especially since he was visibly hurt, constitutes as redundant. --Antoshi~! 14:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

billed weight

What is ' 5³+3*p-V12(1-x)'? The metric part is the only part that is readable. I don't think that other wrestlers bios have both their legit and billed weight. This was stopped with the Undertake edit reverts.(Halbared 13:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC))

I didn't know aboot that, thanks. Where did you get the Scott Hall height 6 ft 6 in from? He doesn't appear to be that taller than Hogan if at all.(Halbared 13:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC))

Necro Butcher

Do you think this guy reaches a level of notability worthy of inclusion in Misplaced Pages? I'm tempted to prod or AfD, but I wanted to see what you thought first. youngamerican (talk) 15:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for checking it out. I think I will withhold AfD or prod fro now, but I might nominate the article in a few months if he is still bouncing around high school gyms and local armories. Cheers. youngamerican (talk) 18:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Mines45

Warned again, not much hope that it will have any affect but lets see... Petros471 11:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Just a comment

Just a friendly note to say: STOP deleting Lita signature moves otherwise I WILL report you to the Wiki authorities. Thanks, and have a great day!