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Tony has always been notable per our guidelines but we didn't have references online to prove so. Now we do.

Today, we can succinctly say he is notable per WP:GNG and WP:BLP since Tony:

has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

Here are several references that establish his notability:

  1. Tony was an official historian for the Association of Naval Services Officers (ANSO). This information is not available online anymore but you can look it up by using the Internet Wayback Machine at
  2. Tony is the subject of a resolution by the 23rd Senate of Puerto Rico, this resolution is available at: This was the most contentious point in the past as Tony was the only one able to provide it but the resolution is now available online through the Puerto Rico Office of Legislative Services.
  3. Tony has been the subject of a campaign by the Wikimedia Foundation entitled "Thank You":
  4. Tony has been profiled by the Wikimedia Foundation exclusively: if you take into account that the Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organization recognized internationally you can easily see how this is a reliable source.

In the past, this article was criticized for its prose and I volunteer myself to fix such issues if anyone believes it should be improved. Feel free to contact me on my talk page and I will fix it.

I have known Tony for more than 9 years, if any of you need information from him please let me know and I will contact him directly by email, get the information needed, and post it myself on the article in order to avoid a conflict of interest by Tony editing it himself.

Ahnoneemoos (talk) 21:53, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

"Self-published" and "unreliable sources"(?) I do not agree.

Someone placed "self-published" and "unreliable sources" footnotes in the lead paragraph of the article. The "self-published" footnote is wrong because the source was a third party, not Antonio Santiago.

Regarding the "unreliable sources" footnotes -- I believe that articles by Wikimedia Foundation, and article profiles by Misplaced Pages, should not be deemed as "unreliable." What do other editors think? Nelsondenis248 (talk) 05:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

You may want to become familiar with the concept of a self published source. It has nothing to do with the subject of the article being the author of the source. --damiens.rf 17:56, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
And no, a facebook post is not a reliable source for claiming that a given wiki-editor is "the foremost authority on Puerto Rico's military history". --damiens.rf 17:58, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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