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Previous talk archived at /Archive 1, /Archive 2. Nikola 20:42, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Srebrenica Massacre

The protection notice says that the protection is because of "disputes" and that protection "does not endorse a particular version" - that seems to serve as a reasonable NPOV notice.

If you think that discussion with GP will not be productive, for whatever reason, you can bring the matter up on RfC, Medation, or (as a last resort) arbitration. Simply reverting each other until one person gives up isn't going to solve the problem, hence the protection. Kate Turner | Talk 19:28, 2004 Oct 8 (UTC)

Three revert rule

You just broke the three revert rule on the Kosovo article.GeneralPatton 20:16, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Removing other people's comments from talk pages

Please don't do this, Nikola. There's no excuse, and it could very easily be considered vandalism. Ambi 13:15, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

If they're upsetting to you, you may want to consider requesting some form of dispute resolution. In any case, leaving them there (if they are indeed offensive) makes the perpetrator look bad, whereas if you remove them, it's inclined to make you look bad. :) Ambi 13:45, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Kosovo article

Thanks for your message, Nikola, but I'm afraid you're wrong about what "reprisals" means. You said:

A reprisal is a clearly defined term; basically, it is retraction of the laws of war on those who have broken them. Suggesting that hundreds of thousands of civilians have breaken and, in a way, are legally responsible for breaking the laws of war, and even worse, that they deserve the "punishment" is, of course, totally unacceptable.
But the phrase goes even worse: people have fled only for fear of reprisals. This implicates that they fled only for fear and that it is not certain that actions which would constitute the reprisals would actually be comitted.

The definition you gave isn't correct - it has nothing to do with "retracting" the laws of war. (They actually can't be retracted, they can only be broken. They're also binding on everybody everywhere.) Collins English Dictionary, which I have sitting next to me at the moment, defines the term as meaning:

1. (often plural) retaliatory action against an enemy in wartime, such as the execution of prisoners of war, destruction of property, etc.

2. the act or an instance of retaliation in any form.

I assume you've not read my comments on Talk:Kosovo in which I cited a number of 1999 media articles (just a few of many) which stated clearly that the non-Albanians in Kosovo fled for fear of reprisals. This doesn't mean that they were all guilty of taking part in the violence. The point is that they were blamed (unjustly, of course) by many Albanians for the actions of the Serbian security forces and paramilitaries in Kosovo. They knew that the Albanian refugees would be returning, that many of them would be armed and that many KLA fighters would be there as well; they didn't know whether KFOR could or would protect them, so they fled. I'll add something to the article to mention that context.

Also, you are absolutely wrong to state (as you did in your edit summary) that "there is no evidence that people who have fled the province were expelled by Serbian security forces". Yes there is, and it's cited in Talk:Kosovo. Disagree with it if you wish, but you will have absolutely no credibility left if you claim that the evidence doesn't exist, when such a claim can be trivially disproved. -- ChrisO 20:45, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Catholic Serbs

Where did you get 7/4/1 from? From User:Joy's count? That count is wrong. I can only count 2 votes to keep (User:Marjan and your own), six to delete (User:Mir Harven, User:SpeedyGonsales, User:Joy, User:GeneralPatton, User:Inky, User:Magi) and one neutral (User:Jmabel). At no time in the entire debate did User:Igor once mention his vote, it can only be implied from his (unnecessarily extensive) arguements. I do not believe in strong or weak votes to keep or delete, one person has one vote and they either make it count or they don't. In my opinion there was consensus to delete this article, so no I won't be undeleting it. You are more than welcome, however, to bring it up at Misplaced Pages:Votes for undeletion. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:16, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Arbitration matter of Avala is closed

1) The above findings of fact show that Avala has often worked against consensus and majority opinion. We therefore rule that Avala must follow the majority opinion of the users involved concerning any controversial edits that Avala makes. One specific consequence is that violations of the three revert rule are not permitted. This probation period will last for one month.

2) For a period of 3 months, should a serious dispute arise between Avala and other users with respect to editing of an article Avala is required to cite substantial authority supporting the position he is taking and either enter the dispute resolution process regarding the matter or drop the matter. A serious dispute is defined as one in which any party to the dispute has reverted the other 3 times or more. After Avala makes his third revert he shall cease editing the article with respect to the disputed matter until completion of the dispute resolution process. Resolution of the dispute in his favor shall require verification that the authority cited adequately supports the information he advocates including in the article. With respect to matters of taste such as size of templates he is required to defer to majority opinion.

3) Given the fact that Avala is now editing at a low rate, we reserve the right to revisit the conduct issue of this user once/if Avala starts to edit at an increased rate again and other users complain about Avala's conduct. This probation would last one year.

For principles, findings of fact, and enforcement see Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Avala#Final decision. --mav 21:48, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Misplaced Pages fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

I think your idea would work, but the only problem would be finding someone with resource to implement it. I suspect it may be easier - if more laborious and much less efficient, to continue as we are. Not least, maybe 50% of images can be disposed of on the spot. But longer term it would be a handy utility. I'll keep it in mind; thanks --Tagishsimon (talk)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Misplaced Pages's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to ] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to ] all my contributions to any ], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. Ram-Man ] 14:10, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

Serbian language Wkibook article

Please spreading your knowledge also there http://en.wikibooks.org/Serbian Thanks. --ThomasK 08:11, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)

Wikimedia meetup Central and Eastern Europe

Hello! I'd like to draw the attention of your (Serbian) Wikicommunity to a Wikimedia meetup that we would like to orginize later this year. Please inform you collegues of this initiative. We would be greateful for any new ideas you might have or any help you can offer. And... Oh yeah - see you there! :)

See the meetups page on Meta for more details.

Best regards, TOR 83.27.192.132 17:27, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Template:WikiquoteAbout

Template:WikiquoteAbout, which you created a while ago, is no longer necessary with Template:Wikiquote being phrased as it is. Would you mind if I were to list it on WP:TFD?


I've changed the wording on Template:Wikiquote as you suggested, would you mind re-evaluating your vote on WP:TFD? -- Netoholic @ 15:35, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)

Image:Tartaria amulet.png

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  • Halló Nikola! I just found the tablets. Can you put the image at commons:? Thanks and best regards Gangleri administrator at ro: and eo: Gangleri | Th | T 18:11, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)
Thanks for your help Nikola! I posted a message at the Romanian Village pump. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 09:16, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC)

Pitanje

Zanima me dali te nekako mogu kontaktirati preko icq ili yim ili msn Sasa Stefanovic 21:32, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

List of cities in Serbia and Montenegro

  • Veliki pozdrav, dodao sam nekoliko gradova na spisak :), malko je komplikovano neki gradovi su uradjeni sa nasim slovima, Niš, a neki ne, poradiću još malo kad stignem, ali engleski mi nije naj bolji. --bonzo 02:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Imaš odgovor na mojoj strani, ukratko uradići sve što si predložio, pozdrav. --bonzo 15:12, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kosovo-Vandalizam

Zdravo Nikola, pravo bi hteo da pohvalim tvoju akivnost na Vikipediji, ali i da te upozorim, pošto si ovde pretežno prisutan, da se manipulisalo sa šablonima koji se tiču Srbije. Konkretno mislim na Okruzi i brisanje kosmetskih okruga sa tog šablona. Ne sme se dozvoliti takvo ponašanje albanskih nacionalista, sve dok se ne ozvaniči nezavisnost Kosova i Metohije. Kad Kosovo postane nezavisno, može sa informacijama da se radi bilo šta. Pozdrav, Pokrajac-administrator na sr. Vikipediji. P.S. izvinjavam se zbog potpisa.

To Pokrajac: Nad Kosovo administria UNMIK od 1999- do sada. Kad Serbska drzava administrira Kosovo? ove su "Shadow Goverment of Ksovo i Metohija" prijatno :))
  1. Pristina, Podujevo, Glogovac, Obilic, Lipljan and Kosovo Polje - the Office of Municipal Government in Nis
  2. Kosovska Mitrovica, Srbica, Zubin Potok, Vucitm, Zvecan and Leposavic - the Office of Municipal Government in Kraljevo
  3. Pec, Istok and Klina - the Office of Municipal Government in Kragujevac
  4. Prizren, Orahovac, Suva Reka and Gora - the Office of Municipal Government in Krusevac
  5. Djakovica and Decant - the Office of Municipal Government in Jagodina
  6. Gnjilane,Vitina,KosovskaKamemcaandNovoBrdo- the Office of Municipal Government in Vranje
  7. Urosevac, Kacanik, Stimlje and Strpce - the Office of Municipal Government in Leskovac--Hipi Zhdripi 23:04, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Serbian firesteels

Hi, Nikola! I've noticed that in multitude of articles there is a reference of Serbian cross. I was wondering if Serbian firesteels would be the more appropriate name. After all, this symbol is in Serbian called српска оцила and not српски крст. And one more thing: those four C-like symbols aren't Cyrillic letters S as indicated in Serbian cross article, but four firesteels (firesteel is a tool used for igniting the fire). Should I change these articles or not, and if not then why not.
P.S. Hope I'll see you on one of our Belgrade meetings. -- Obradović Goran (tak 15:16, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

File:SerbiaCoA.png

Yes, I'm aware that I don't need a promision, but I thought that it would be nice to cooperate, and I wanted to hear your opinion :)

Ok, even if Serbian cross isu sed more often, firesteel remain proper term. For proof look at the blazon of coat of Serbia: The principal field stands for the Serbian State (Gules a double-headed eagle with wings displayed and inverted Argent, langued, beaked, legged and unguled Or, between two fleurs-de-lys of the third in base), while inescutcheon stands for Serbian Nation (Gules a cross Argent between four fire-steels of the same)

If heraldry experts are using this term, than this is a proper term. If Serbian cross is more widespread term, then it should be mentioned that it is usualy used (but wrong) term. I think that article Serbian cross, should be a redirect for Serbian firesteels. I am willing to write more material about this subject. -- Obradović Goran (tak 16:57, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Table suffixes

Template:Table suffixes has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion#Table suffixes. Thank you. — Xiongtalk* 10:38, 2005 May 25 (UTC)

Template:Tsar things

As the creator of Template:Tsar things, you should know that the template has been nominated for deletion at WP:TFD. BlankVerse 10:23, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. Since you've been previously nominated I added an '*' immediately before your name in this list. If for any reason you're NOT interested, my apologies and please remove the '*' (you could entirely remove yourself from the list also, if you'd like). I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:36, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Serbian portal

As the amount of material somehow connected with Serbs and Serbia on Misplaced Pages grows, I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to form a SCG/Serb portal, so that all the articles about famous Serbs, Serb history, the Serb republic etc are more closely interlinked. This would also provide the casual reader with a easy to use encyclopaedia of everything they could wish to know about RS, SCG, the Serb diaspora etc. Јес' да је Србија мала и да је мало Срба али ипак има Палестински портал, Doctor Who портал, зато нема разлога да и ми ово не покренемо. At this stage I'm just gauging the amount of interest out there for this. If you support this idea, and want to help out, then just drop by my talk page -- estavisti 20:03, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Javi se

Javi se mailom na oldadamml@yahoo.com


Hmm

Hello, you sound like an extreme Serbian nationalist (you have been warned several times). Haven't you heard that nationalism is a wrong thing? (what do you think of the extremist Serbian Radical Party?) HolyRomanEmperor 20:59, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

..... I have a feeling that you're being so polite only because you found out that I am a Serb Frontiersman..... HolyRomanEmperor 09:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, problem solved... I am reluctant on "feeding that troll" but he made some serious arguments that are personally insultive to me. Perhaps zou should check his and Joy-shallot's. If you do, you'll know what I am talking about. (hint: "Varivode") HolyRomanEmperor 09:34, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Are you there (you haven't answered me...)? HolyRomanEmperor 12:11, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Go to Joy's and Mir Harven's talk pages and read some of my comments. Search especially for Varivode. In the "Oluja nad olujama" show whitch Mir so boldly celebrates, it was said that there were cases like Varivode after the Storm in which Croatian soldiers ethnicly cleansed Serb civilians, but that cases like that were solved and the people punished for their crimes. In 2003 the only suspects were released, and the case was completly forgotten (Varivode is my village) HolyRomanEmperor 12:39, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

That shouldn't be too difficult. I can find articles everywhere about their release... But edit which article? I saw that show on the TV, and so did Mir Harven (he has it on DVD) and this is only a conflict of truth. They openly lied on that show. I want to make that clear. And, yes, I am working on a Varivode article currently. HolyRomanEmperor 14:49, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Nikola, could you please give me any proofs, claims or anything about Katarina Pejić, Ivo Andrićs mother. I would really really really like to finish this torment... HolyRomanEmperor 18:11, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

This is an emergency, please. HolyRomanEmperor 18:41, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, but I am not sure if this article will be accepted by all. Can you get a hold on anything else? And what about Rudjer Boskovic? HolyRomanEmperor 00:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

There is nothing about Serbian legacy of Ivo Andrich in there... HolyRomanEmperor 01:49, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

A misunderstanding, sorry. I saw you post something like ...as much as I hate advertising such crap... but nevermind. I am researching about Ivo Andrić's blood lineage. Were both of his parents Catholic Croats? I think that Skenderbeg was indeed Albanian P. S. Could I call you to held me on the Croatian wikipedia? I am being decimated there by Elephantus and his little minion (even though I put sensible arguements) HolyRomanEmperor 10:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Science pearls

Hi,

I address you as the ambassador of your wikipedia. Please notice the above project.

This project, more than other projects, will benefit from inter-wiki cooperation. Can you post a message regarding this project at your wikipedia village pump?

Thanks for your help, APH from the English wiki

Cities and municipalities

"I have noticed that you have added a list of villages in their municipality to some city articles. I think that perhaps it would be better if such lists would be made in municipality articles (listed at (Subdivisions of Serbia and Montenegro)."

These articles are meant to be about both: cities and municipalities. Here is the example: Titel. Quote: "Titel (Тител) is a town and municipality in South Bačka District of Vojvodina, Serbia". So, it is written here that this article is about both: town and municipality. Besides this, in Subdivisions of Serbia and Montenegro article, the links to "municipality articles" are only redirects to the "town-municipality articles". We can split these into two of course, but it is a very big job, and I do not think that this spliting is necessary, because, the current articles could cover both - city and its municipality.

"BTW, do you have such lists for municipalities outside of Vojvodina?"

Yes, I have this list for entire Serbia. You can download this list from official statistical web site of Serbia and Montenegro:

I think it might be this document, but I am not sure:

User:PANONIAN


Ok, Nikola, shvatam tvoju poentu oko razdvajanja članaka o opštinama i gradovima. Ipak, postoje neki problemi u vezi toga. Ako bismo iz nekih članaka o gradovima sklonili spisak sela iz te opštine, u članku ne bi ostalo skoro ništa, tako da to razdvajanje svakako treba ostaviti za kasnije, dok se sadržaj članaka ne poveća. Sledeće, čak i ako se naprave članci o opštinama, to ne znači da u člancima o gradovima ne možemo ostaviti spisak okolnih sela. Pogledaj recimo kako je to urađeno na srpskoj Vikipediji na primeru Novog Sada. Postoje posebni članci o gradu i opštini Novi Sad, ali se spisak okolnih sela nalazi u oba članka. Dakle, ne vidim razlog što se ti podaci ne bi nalazili u oba članka?

User:PANONIAN


User Categorization

You were listed on the Misplaced Pages:Wikipedians/Serbia and Montenegro page as living in or being associated with Serbia and Montenegro. As part of the Misplaced Pages:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Serbia and Montenegro for instructions. -Alekk 23:13, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

You don't believe about 700,000 Serbs in Germany? Nevertheless, I got "Tatsachen uber Deutschland". I am reading it know. It contains everything about Germany that you would ever like to know. HolyRomanEmperor 17:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Image Discussion

  • You don't have information on source images; Icon of Saint Sava looks modern and might be copyrighted, and drawing of Tesla might be copyrighted too. Here people are very paranoid about copyright, and this could present a problem one day.

-I will take care of this shortly

  • Some pictures you have chosen are not widely known: Vuk, Andric, Tesla and Saint Sava; I think that pictures which are most oftenly associated with a person should be used (note that most readers of Misplaced Pages are not Serbs and wouldn't recognise persons on these less-known images).

The pictures are varied for a reason, several reasons in fact

    • Most wikipedian images have lesser known pics because they express the scope of the picture subject's influence. Most lesser known people only have 1 B&W pic that's widely circulated. By putting different ones, it shows how these people were revered...especially with a portrait image (such as the one on Vuk, Tesla, and Misic)
    • Specific ones like Sava and Vuk have more commonly known images that do not reflect their actual looks on such a small picture scale

such as this one http://www.westsrbdio.org/saints/images/ssava.jpg and this one http://www.lupiga.com/enciklopedija/slike/20050408013248Vuk_Karadzic.jpg

Also my sava and Vuk pic shouldn't be that unkown; they're on the first page of google

  • Your selection of people looks somewhat random. Specifically:
    • There isn't a single female,

-Well, lets be frank here, what woman truly contributed anything of huge importance? Nothing Mileva Maric did for Einstein's theories can be proven

    • There is no one who is currently alive.

-People who are currently alive rarely have any lasting influence on a nationality; it's a fact. That's why most other wikipedia nationality images have slim to no people who are alive being represented.

  • I don't see any logic in ordering the pictures; for example, on my picture I ordered people chronologically.

-Well, most pages don't. Look at the English people, Dutch people, Romanians, Italians pages

  • People's heads have different sizes; it would be visually the best if they would all be similar.

I tried to do that but it's truly not a big deal, considering 90% of other pages don't do this either.

Now to defend my position:

What's particurlarly better about my image selection is it's presented more neatly; the people's faces and/or bodies can actually be seen on such a small image scale; the people are generally more important to the nationality as a whole; the image variation gives it a nice eye-catching gleam....etc..

Notification

Before I start the process for banning yourself, I have to notify you. Emir Arven 20:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

More images

Image:500000000000 dinars.jpg has been listed as a possibly unfree image

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68.39.174.238 20:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Slika

Što se mene tiče, tvoja slika nije loša i bolja je od one sa dva reda. Svoju sam napravio kao odgovor na uklanjanje tvoje slike. Odlično je što si pokrenuo glasanje. Nadam se da sad svako može da glasa. Napravi opcije "za", "protiv" i "uzdržan". Što se tiče diskusije RS-u, mislim da se ne bi hteo mešati u takve osetljive teme. Volim da diskutujem o stvarima koje najbolje poznajem. Ko misli da sve zna, taj ne zna ništa. Pozdrav, --M. Pokrajac 10:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Look at Ivo Andric. user:Elephantus deleted all Serbian references to him (when we all agreed that he concidered himself a Serb, even Mir Harven) !!! HolyRomanEmperor 14:46, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I think that creating Serbs in Croatia or History of Serbs in Croatia is a must-have. It is being destoryed/deleted by many Croatian nationalists. HolyRomanEmperor 22:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Where is the mention of Nikola Tesla in there? There is no mention either of the Serbs' agreeing to assist further the Croatian authorities to expand and join Dalmatia (after the joining of Croatia and Slavonia) HolyRomanEmperor 20:42, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Where is the mention of Nikola Tesla in there? There is no mention either of the Serbs' agreeing to assist further the Croatian authorities to expand and join Dalmatia (after the joining of Croatia and Slavonia) HolyRomanEmperor 20:42, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

According to the 1790 cencus data, the Kingdom of Slavonia had: Serbs (46.8%), Croats (45.7%), Hungarians (6.8%) and Others. HolyRomanEmperor 20:51, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Don't forget the stories of Matija Ban and Medo Pucić, the two Dalmatian Catholic Serbs. Then there is the Independent State of Croatia's cruel slaughters and the hard life throughest that end of the XX century (including the Croatian-imposed propaganda, oppression and the Republic of Serb Frontier HolyRomanEmperor 20:57, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

There is much. much more. When I include them to other articles (like the republic of Dubrovnik) they wonderously disappear. So, an independent article is needed... HolyRomanEmperor 21:15, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I uderstand, but what about the Croatian Serbs suggestion? HolyRomanEmperor 09:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I would rather like that everyone can freelly access our information. Now, where to put that info if not create an independent article (an independent article was actually Joy's suggestion) HolyRomanEmperor 22:39, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I would rather like that everyone can freelly access our information. Now, where to put that info if not create an independent article (an independent article was actually Joy's suggestion) HolyRomanEmperor 22:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I should remind you of Ivo Andrić again. I agree that his Serbian ethnicitz isn't really proven, but we all know that he concidered himself a Serb (P. S. your edits were reverted by user:Elephantus) HolyRomanEmperor 22:47, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Antidote je stavio svoju sliku. Mislim da je to nekorektno, jer nije imao većinu za to. Ti, Goran, Jmabel i ja smo načelno protiv njegove slike. Pošto on tvrdi da je glasanje gotovo, stavio sam prvu sliku, a to je tvoja. Mislim da se on previše pravi pametan i u fazonu je "sve zna". Samo pogledaj na koliko je članaka umešao svoje prste misleći da je najpametniji. Pozdrav i odi na naš trg gde se vodi komentariše zahtev za otvaranje Wikipedije na "zlatiborskom jeziku". --M. Pokrajac 00:37, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

University of Prishtina

Don't you understand that United Nations are the sovereign of Kosovo? They have accepted the university as "Universiteti i Prishtinës", so there is no room for objection. Faces the facts, please!!! Let wikipedia readers get extract of official information.--Epirus 16:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually “University of Pristina” does not exist. The United Nations administer Kosova and they have accepted the university with the name shown on the main article "University of Prishtina". Also, no one is supposed to add a Serbian name for the university because it does not offer studies in Serbian, and a Serbian official name does not exist. This is like adding to Harvard “(Serbian: Univerzitet u Harvard)...”. Forgive me for comparing Havard with Prishtina, but in this case it is not a miss-leading comparison.

Once again, please do not vandalize with those claims that the university was moved somewhere else in Serbia and a parallel university was founded then in Prishtina. If Serbs really need a high quality university like Prishtina, I wish their government could offer them scholarships to study in Kosova’s capital. It would be a very good experience, not only for Serbs, but for nationals of other countries as well to study or work in a city like Prishtina. They would be fascinated by the geniality of its people.--Epirus 16:42, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

University of Prishtina

Don't you understand that United Nations are the sovereign of Kosovo? They have accepted the university as "Universiteti i Prishtinës", so there is no room for objection. Faces the facts, please!!! Let wikipedia readers get extract of official information.--Epirus 16:44, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually “University of Pristina” does not exist. The United Nations administer Kosova and they have accepted the university with the name shown on the main article "University of Prishtina". Also, no one is supposed to add a Serbian name for the university because it does not offer studies in Serbian, and a Serbian official name does not exist. This is like adding to Harvard “(Serbian: Univerzitet u Harvard)...”. Forgive me for comparing Havard with Prishtina, but in this case it is not a miss-leading comparison.

Once again, please do not vandalize with those claims that the university was moved somewhere else in Serbia and a parallel university was founded then in Prishtina. If Serbs really need a high quality university like Prishtina, I wish their government could offer them scholarships to study in Kosova’s capital. It would be a very good experience, not only for Serbs, but for nationals of other countries as well to study or work in a city like Prishtina. They would be fascinated by the geniality of its people.--Epirus 16:44, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Republika Srpska

Nikola, mislim da bi trebalo da sarađujemo oko članka Republika Srpska a ne da se međusobno revertujemo. Ne slažem se sa tvojom izmenom oko imena bosanskog jezika, jer sa tom izmenom provociras Dadu i Emira i onda oni dođu da vandalizuju članak. Već smo nešto slično raspravljali oko Crnogoraca. Ovo ti je samo moj savet, ne očekujem da ćeš ga prihvatiti, ali mislim da imaš pogrešan pristup ovim problemima. Mislim da treba da pustiš Crnogorce, Bošnjake i ostale da se izjašnjavaju kako žele i da pričaju jezikom kojim žele, jer to je njihovo pravo. Ono što ih naravno ne treba pustiti je da šire propagandu protiv Srba, i zaista bih želeo da saradjujem sa tobom u odstranjivanju njihove propagande iz članaka o Republici Srpskoj, ali neću da sarađujem u tvojoj propagandi protiv njih (kao što je pitanje njihovog jezika). Još jedan savet, pošto vidim da dosta edituješ i članke u vezi Kosova, mislim da bi trebalo više da se posvetiš Republici Srpskoj nego Kosovu, jer smatram da je Kosovo za Srbe završena priča, dok u Republici Srpskoj ima 90% Srba. Ovo su samo neki moji dobronamerni saveti i razmišljanja, ti svakako imaš pravo na drugačije mišljenje. Sve najbolje. PANONIAN 20:22, 6 November 2005 (UTC)


Catholic Serbs (mostly from Dubrovnik): Matija Ban, The House of Pozza (Medo Pucić), Baltazar Bogišić, The House of Gondola (Ivan Gundulić), The House of Boskovich (Nikola Bošković, Ruđer Josip Bošković), The House of Zlatarich (Dominiko Zlatarić), The House of Resti (Dane Rastić), Luko Zore, Petar Kolendić... etc. HolyRomanEmperor 21:37, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

and Pero Budmani and Milan Rešetar. HolyRomanEmperor 21:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Ivo Andrić

Could you please point out the part (or parts) of Talk:Ivo Andrić which you think supports the notion of Andrić's mother being Serbian and/or Andrić considering himself a Serb? Also, please refrain from massively reverting the page and try to edit just the parts you find incorrect. --Elephantus 10:38, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Please note that the source on Ivan Gundulić places him as a Serb. His situation is the same as with Ruđer Bošković. Can something be done with it? 13:03, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I bid you to look at this: Please don't rush anywhere exposing this source, I want to keep this one as authentic and hidden (as one of the last aces) If we are going to make the article a little more truthful, we'll have to look a little more for additional sources... I trust that you will respect my request that the upper-mentioned page remain out-of-public until we agree to display it. Please delete the link as soon as you read it. HolyRomanEmperor 13:09, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

One other thing: , and . I think that you will find this useful if you plan to edit Zahumlje, Duklja, Rascia, History of Bosnia and Pagania to mark all the (Serbian) rulers... HolyRomanEmperor 13:22, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Votes needed: Montenegrin language HolyRomanEmperor 12:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Nikola

Možda bi trebalo da pogledaš ovo:

PANONIAN (talk) 13:57, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


My computer won't edit..... Please, revert the recent Pro-Croatian POV edits on Rudjer Boskovic, and return them to our previous... HolyRomanEmperor 14:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Kosova

Is Kosova part of Serbia? Rex 19:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Mapa

Nikola, obrisaće ti ovu sliku ako ne staviš neki tag u vezi kopirajt statusa slike:

Treba i na druge slike koje si ubacio da staviš neki tag da ti ih ne obrišu. Meni su jednu obrisali pa se sad ne zezam sa tim. :) PANONIAN (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Tale of Igor's Campaign

Hi, Nikola. I have too much on my plate to go into translation projects, especially as I'm not a native English user. But you may want to check Nabokov's translation at www.nabokov.tk. For recruiting other contributors, you may ask here or here. If you feel at loss at translating any given word, you may ask me and I'll check my copy of Zaliznyak's book on the obscure passages of the Lay. --Ghirlandajo 07:55, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Ivan Gundulic and Rudjer Boskovic!

Luko Zore, a writer from Dubrovnik wrote a book in 1903 claiming that Ivan Gundulić was a Serb

Please don't repeatedly revert articles

Nikola, I know you feel strongly about the edits made recently by User:Emir Arven, User:Dado and others, but please don't repeatedly revert articles. It's not an acceptable editing tactic; you should be trying to resolve differences by discussing them on talk pages. You've come close to violating the 3 revert rule. Also, reverting without discussion or explaining why you object to a particular version isn't going to enable people to work towards an agreement on an article. -- ChrisO 00:32, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Long time no see. I have moved your 3RR request to the correct section of the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR, and commented on it. If he reverts again, I'll block him. Also, it is common courtesy to inform the user if you take actions against him. -- Chris 73 | Talk 15:05, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Serbia and Montegro articles

Hi, I see you're in the category for those Wikipedians from Serbia & Montenegro. I'm trying to create a project whereby seperate articles for just Serbia OR Montenegro are written to an acceptable level, especially considering the possibility that 2006 may see the two nations seperate and become independent states. If that were to occur Misplaced Pages should have articles written to the standard of other national articles. It would be useful to have the input of Wikipedians living in the area. Please post any views here, not at my talk page. Thank You Grunners 18:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

History of Bosnia and Herzegovina

Please refrain from pointless reverts on History of Bosnia and Herzegovina. I have encouraged everybody to discuss the issue on the talk page, and I would appreciate that you give your views there. Reverts as you are practising them now are a disturbance. Thank you for your understanding. Rama 23:51, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Kategorije

Ne vidim kako neko može iz kategorija steći utisak o statusu Vojvodine i Kosova. Ako neko želi da sazna o njihovom statusu otići će na članke o njima i to pročitati. Poenta kategorizacije je da olakša kretanje po Vikipediji i da omogući korisnicima da lakšu nađu ono što traže. Uklanjanje kategorije Vojvodine i Kosova iz SCG kategorije svakako ne doprinosi lakšem nalaženju istih. Što se mene tiče možemo napraviti i kategoriju "Ethnic groups of Belgrade" i ubaciti je u SCG kategoriju. Podkategorije se obično premeštaju iz veće u nižu kategoriju onda kad se u toj većoj kategoriji nalazi jako puno stvari. Ne vidim međutim razlog da iz kategorije u kojoj se nalaze samo 4 podkategorije uklonimo 2. Inače u kategorijama "Ethnic groups of Vojvodina" i "Ethnic groups of Kosovo" sam sada napravio linkove do članaka o Vojvodini i Kosovu, pa ako neko želi da pročita o njihovom statusu, lako će moći da ode do tih članaka i to sazna. Mislim da bismo ovo mogli primeniti svugde. Inače, kakve to topografske mape imaš? PANONIAN (talk) 15:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


Evo pogledaj sada:

Mislim da upotrebom crtice i zvezdice možemo napraviti utisak da Vojvodina i Kosovo nisu isto što Srbija i Crna Gora. To je mnogo bolje nego ih jednostavno obrisati. PANONIAN (talk) 15:41, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


Take a look at this and put your vote if you can, please: HolyRomanEmperor 12:13, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


Nikola, za ono na vrhu kod kategorije ja koristim prazan prostor, jer on ide pre zvezdice, tako da ne mora ništa da se menja. PANONIAN (talk) 21:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


Upravo sam video da tvoje rešenje nije dobro, jer donja crtica (_) po abecednom redu na Vikipediji dolazi tek posle svih slova. Molim te da ono što si menjao vratiš kako je bilo. Kod prvog što ide po redu samo ukucaš razmak ( ), a kod sledećih zvezdicu (*). PANONIAN (talk) 22:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


Kako bre dobro? Kategorije Serbia, Montenegro, Vojvodina i Kosovo treba da dolaze pre slova, s tim da kategorije Serbia i Montenegro budu na početku, a ove dve iza njih (onako kako sam to i napravio). Jedina tri znaka za koja znam da dolaze pre slova su razmak ( ), zvezdica (*) i uzvičnik (!). PANONIAN (talk) 23:08, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


Da, uzvičnik ide pre zvezdice, čisto da znaš... PANONIAN (talk) 23:10, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


Ok, nadam se da si shvatio gde je problem. Ovako kako si ti napravio možda sada izgleda dobro, ali ako recimo napraviš kategoriju Srbi i ubaciš je kao podkategoriju u "Ethnic groups of Serbia and Montenegro", kategorija Srbi (sa početnim slovom S) će se naći pre Vojvodine i Kosova, ako ove dve imaju donju crticu, a to je suprotan efekat od onog koji bi trebalo postići. Samo vrati ovo kako je bilo, a mene pusti da to uradim i kod svih drugih SCG kategorija (kod većine sam već i uradio). PANONIAN (talk) 23:19, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


"Sve lepo, samo obrati paznju da se, koliko sam ja video, osnovni clanak u nekoj kategoriji uvek stavlja pod zvezdicu, a ne pod razmak."

Pa koliko sam ja video osnovni članak se stavlja i pod razmak i pod zvezdicu, s tim da ja obično koristim razmak, jer on dođe pre zvezdice. Možeš koristiti šta hoćeš, važno je samo postići željeni efekat. PANONIAN (talk) 12:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


Ivo Andric... I have no more fast internet. HolyRomanEmperor 14:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Bosnjaci/Muslimani

Mislim da je vreme doslo da se pokrene "Mediation", prvo neformalno, pa formalo itd(da iscrpimo sve mogucnosti), u vezi sa Bosnjacima/Muslimanima na popisima jer mozemo clanke izmenjivati svakih nekoliko sati al' to nista nece da resi. Ako se slazes, ostavicu tebi da to pokrenes, jer si ipak "nas ugledni Vikipedijac", k'o sto se dole kaze. :) Usput, ovo je na latinici, cisto jer nemam privilegije ga instaliram cirilicu na ovaj racunar. Nadam se da ovome nesporazumu mozemo brzo privesti na kraj, jer je to prosto gubljenje vremena. --estavisti 12:57, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Ево, поднео сам захтев да се историје преместе код 9 чланака, и то је ваљде све. Надам се да смо ово разрешили. --estavisti 23:27, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Bagpipe photo

Cool bagpipe picture! You should add the Serbian name of that instrument on there too. Badagnani 16:04, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

No, it's quite good, and congratulations on your photo. I like the colorful painting of the pipes. The player, I'm guessing, is some country guy who's coming into the city to make some money busking (playing on the street)? This is typical also in Italy at Christmas, when the mountain people of southern Italy come down from the mountain to play for the lowland (city) people.

What part of Serbia are you in? My university featured a Serbian men's choir (Kosovo) with tamburitza orchestra (Šarena) a few months ago; both groups are based in Cleveland, Ohio. Badagnani 09:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

serbofobia

come and expand your artcle, or it will be in trouble. 01:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Dragoljub Draza Mihailovic

Само да ти привучем пажњу на то да је чланак о Михаиловићу опет на мети Bosniaco-а. --estavisti 06:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Report suggestion

Hi. Do you accept suggestions for new kinds of reports? Nikola 11:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Nikola. Sadly I've fallen off the edge of the digital world and no longer have sufficient bandwidth to download a copy of wikipedia to run reports against. However, all is not lost; you may find someone capable of producing a report for you on Misplaced Pages:Database_queries. - TB 23:19, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Please hold a little off with your Serbian nationalist tendencies. Oh, and Albanian exodus HolyRomanEmperor 18:00, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Why not write Demographic history of Bosnia as well? HolyRomanEmperor 18:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, you have built an uneasy reputation in the eyes of Asim, Dado and Emir. By the way; I have been nominated for an admin at here Care to vote? HolyRomanEmperor 16:54, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Cele Kula (band)

Sorry, I had to vote delete on this one. WP:MUSIC is the guideline used to determine a band's notability. With only one four-track album to their name, they don't meet the album guideline, and googling for more information just shows us that there was a band that exited under that name in Italy in 1999.  RasputinAXP  talk contribs 19:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Demographic history of Bosnia and Herzegovina

...so I made it then. Very long story about VKokielov; he got the wrong impression that I am ready to fight any Bosniak and/or Croat :) True actually; as much as I would fight any Serb, Albanian, Bulgarian or Greek who starts to put something like "Thomas Edison invented the toilette" :). Happy New Year! HolyRomanEmperor 15:29, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Zeta Jones

Hi please do not insert ethnic makeup in the header. If there are other articles which mention ethnic makeup in this way please tell me what they are and I'll take a look at them. Thanks Arniep 17:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi, the Peter Bogdanovich and Karl Malden articles do not mention ethnicity in the header. Steve Tesich was born in Serbia and presumably became an American citizen so it is OK to use that term. With Emir Kusturica, due to obvious historical reasons it is OK to say he is Serb if he considers himself to be that. Regards Arniep 14:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi that looks like a good compromise. The use of "from" is interesting and might be useful in other cases. It could even be used where a person wasn't born in a certain country but spent most of their childhood there for example. Arniep 09:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Demographic history of Bosnia and Herzegovina

... I wrote it then. That with VKokielov was just a misunderstanding. What do you mean by (E)mir??? --HolyRomanEmperor 17:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Ogneslav Stepanovic

Hi, I'm trying to clean up his article and noticed a nicely written one at the Serbian Misplaced Pages: . I was wondering if you could help me translate it (I can only get about 40% of it down and with big difficulty). If you don't have time then can you point me to someone who could translate it quickly? It doesn't matter if the translation is rough I just need it better than what I can do. Thanks. Antidote 20:14, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Nikola. Just wanted to remind you about the translation - don't feel rushed at all - I'm just checking in. You can take your time. Antidote 03:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Bosnia

Why revert my link? The link should go to a particular page on Bosnia, not to the disambiguation page Gwaka Lumpa 11:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:University of Priština logo.png

Sorry, I looked at the history on the image and I had no idea that the article would be under editwarring for so long. I should have checked. I'll be more careful in the future. --Gmaxwell 13:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Question

Did you save that Dubrovnik families page by any chance (or save it now, if you have it in cash)? The site is dead now... I need it for House of Boshko and Orahov Do. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:30, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

UNMIK

You know, that's a really smart suggestion. I've noticed and been frustrated by the same problem before. I'll follow your solution in the future. I wouldn't mind seeing quite a bit more expansion on the UNMIK section – it will probably attract quite a few visits as the Kosovo status negotiations get underway – but unfortunately it's a bit out of my expertise. Peace, QuartierLatin1968 El bien mas preciado es la libertad 16:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Random translation request

Hi, I picked your name (for no good reason) out of a list of native Serbian speakers. Could you please translate the following item someone left on my user page at the Serbian Misplaced Pages into English? I don't read Serbian (my user page is only there to assist myself in tracking article-count milestones), so I don't know if this is something I should remove or move to my talk page over there.

Споменице и захвалнице
2002 споменица
Dcljr учествује у раду српске Википедије, иако није српски Википедијанац, односно српска Википедијанка. Зато се овој особи рачуна и рад на другим Википедијама.

(Follow the second link above to see the original.) I'd really appreciate it if you could help with this. - dcljr (talk) 01:35, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the translation. It's kinda weird, but since it's an "award" I'll consider more carefully what I want to do with it. I still don't understand the "2002" part (following the link you can get to other "awards" with numbers in their names)... but whatever. - dcljr (talk) 08:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Mapa

Dakle sad mi je jasno zašto su svi ovi Bošnjaci došli da glasaju protiv moje mape. Video sam da tu mapu hoćeš da staviš u članak o istoriji Bosne i Hercegovine, i to je dakle razlog ovih sporova. Zamolio bih te da tu mapu više ne stavljaš u članak o Bosni i Hercegovini, jer je očigledno da tamo ne spada. To bi bilo isto kao kada bismo u članak o istoriji Srbije stavili mape Otomanskog i Austrijskog carstva, dakle jednom rečju, ta mapa ne spada tamo, i molim te nemoj je više vraćati da prekinemo ove glupe sporove oko drugih članaka u kojima se ta mapa nalazi. PANONIAN (talk) 02:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


Problem je što dotična mapa nije mapa Bosne, već mapa Srbije. Ona ne pokazuje Bosnu kao takvu sa svojom teritorijom i granicama, već Srbiju. To što na toj mapi piše Bosna nije dovoljan razlog da je uključimo u taj članak, jer ona ne prikazuje Bosnu kao takvu, već samo imenuje položaj jednog regiona u Srbiji koji se zvao Bosna. Takođe ne možeš porediti onu mapu u članku o istoriji Vojvodine sa ovom, jer je tamo prikazana Vojvodina sa svojim granicama, dok ovde Bosna kao takva nije prikazana jer u to vreme nije ni postojala. Što se tiče članka o istoriji Belgije, apsolutno isti slučaj: tamo su nacrtane granice rimske pokrajine Belgica, a i na mapi Holandije su prikazane granice lokalnih belgijskih provincija. A što se tiče pitanja "da li bi neki tekst o istoriji Bosne i Hercegovine trebao u sebi da ima mapu teritorije danasnje Bosne i Hercegovine u 9. veku", odgovorio bih sa ne jer Bosna nije postojala u 9. veku. Što se tiče dotičnih bošnjačkih nacionalista, sigurno im neću popustiti ako budu hteli da vandalizuju i druge članke vezane za Srbiju i Srbe, ali ti samo dolivaš ulje na vatru i podstičeš ih da to rade time što ubacuješ ovu mapu u članak o istoriji Bosne i Hercegovine ili time što ime njihovog jezika iz "bosanski" menjaš u "bošnjački". PANONIAN (talk) 17:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


I samo da ti kažem da je u službenoj publikaciji vlade Srbije sa rezultatima popisa stanovništva 2002 njihov jezik priznat kao "bosanski", a ne kao "bošnjački". PANONIAN (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


Nikola, nemam sada vremena za širu raspravu oko ovoga, pa ću preskočiti deo o Andaluziji i Hispaniji (iako bih imao šta da ti odgovorim) i držaću se konkretnog slučaja. Kada bi u Bosni živeli samo Srbi (ili kada bi Srbi bili većinski narod) onda ne bi bio problem da se ta mapa tu ubaci, ali zbog toga što tu ne žive samo Srbi i što Srbi nisu većinski narod, ta mapa u tom članku predstavlja POV. Na primer nemam ništa protiv da se članak o istoriji Republike Srpske napiše od vremena Ilira i da se ta mapa ubaci u taj članak. To sam ja i uradio na srpskoj Vikipediji:

Lično bih ti predložio da ako imaš vremena i volje prevedeš sa srpskog taj članak i da ga ubaciš u englesku verziju istorije Republike Srpske, zajedno sa tom mapom, jer u tom bi članku bila primerena. Međutim, Bosna i Republika Srpska nisu isto i u članku o istoriji Bosne ta mapa nije primerena. PANONIAN (talk) 16:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


Fascist Serbian state

I see your page says My interest is in spreading knowledge about Serbs, Serbia, Serbian culture and history. I thought you would be interested in the fact that there's a big gap in the article History of Serbia, under the title "Serbia in World War II". There is just one sentence about fascist Serbia in WWII: Serbia was set up as another puppet state under Serbian army general Milan Nedić. That's really strange. And no wikilinks. How come? Was it not important? But I heard it had concentration camps. It must be important. Why are there no data on fascist Serbia, what do you think? Really, really strange... But I won't waste any more of your precious time, I'm sure you have more important stuff to revert. --Zmaj 08:57, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

revert wars

I, Rex, award Nikola Smolenski the Barnstar of National Merit for all the work he has put into maintaining the neutrality of the articles relating to the former Yugoslavia, by revert warring.

Hi, you're funny. On how many articles are you making revert wars? You hardly ever get blocked for violating the 3RR though. How do you do it, can you teach me :-)) Rex 21:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Listings - I agree

If by making the list "exhaustive" you mean that for now we should list as many people as possible (in order to make articles and such) and then later we can prune to include the most famous then I agree.

However, I disagree with the double listing as it's just unncessesary - if a person is famous in more than one field (which almost everyone on the list is) then we should maybe just note it in parenthesis next to them. What do you think? Antidote 20:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Two people

Can you tell me what you know (if anything) about the following two poets: Kosta Abrašević and Ratko Popovic. I can't find much information on them, so perhaps they are non-notables? Antidote 00:51, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi Nikola. I've just discovered the range of articles on which you (and others) are determinedly editwarring. You in particular appear to be blindly reverting with little to no discussion on a very large number of articles.

Can I encourage you please to stop this now, and engage on the various talk pages? I can find very little evidence of this having been tried with any determination. Edit wars, especially the dry, sterile type here are disruptive to the usual functioning of Misplaced Pages and when conducted on so many fronts at once cause an unnecessary degree of wasted time and effort by all involved.

You seem to stay carefully inside the three revert rule, but I'd like to encourage you, in the strongest possible terms, to stick to a much higher standard than that. I wonder if I can help those you disagree with reach any kind of agreement? Warring on so many articles has got to stop, and pretty much immediately. Thanks. I'm going to leave similar notes with Asim Led and Elephantus too, as they also appear to be reverting on more than one article — I hope it does not come to me having to construct electric fences with blocks, but we should be clear that such an option must be considered, and considered very soon. Thanks. -Splash 23:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Rudjer Boscovich

Hi Nikola. Further to my message above, I've written a note to you and Elephantus about how I'd like to proceed with working through the article. The section of disputed text is quite short, and I'm hopeful that, with an understanding that we're going to have to tolerate each other, we can work something out. I'd ideally like to finish up with a paragraph that presents both your viewpoint and Elephantus's in robustly referenced ways. That way, everybody should be able to agree that somebody else actually said what is being claimed, without having to agree to it actually being correct of them so to say. Anyway, read my message at Talk:Rudjer Boscovich and see what you can do. In the spirit of moving forwards, I'd ask that you not revert the page again until we've completed this discussion. I've left Elephantus a similar message. Please do bear with the discussion; continued editwarring has got to stop, I'm sure you'll agree. Thanks. -Splash 03:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Adding more labels to Cite.php

I've added aa-az to MediaWiki:Cite references link many format backlink labels as per your request. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Please check your WP:NA entry

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Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 04:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

kutijica

Zdravo.

Znaš to možda šta se desilo sa kutijicom "protiv neovisnosti Kosova"?

Pozdrav.--TheFEARgod 13:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Ruđer Josip Bošković

Bolje bi bilo ako bi okačio na samu wikipediju...

No, imam trenutno drugih problema - riješavam dispute na Mehmed Pasha Sokolović. Pitanje je da li je bio bošnjačkog ili srpskog porijekla. --HolyRomanEmperor 21:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism by Mir Harven

Hi, I am new here, but I see there are some people from Serbia. Mir Harven has engaged in reverts about Tudjman, where he keeps removing the known quote about NDH being an expression of thousand-year will of Croatian people and about his holocaust revisionism for which he appologised to Jews in 1994. Is he some sort of a known vandal? Could you instruct me what to do as he seems to be inserting Croatian propaganda all over the place. Thanks Mylan 22:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

apple and cherry burek

Hi there, I was wondering if you can tell me where you got the info that apple and cherry bureks exist? --Dijxtra 12:05, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

House of Boshko

I believe that you've forgotten about this article... --HolyRomanEmperor 11:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


Serbophobia

Your opinion would be appreciated here regarding the non-deletion of the article Serbophobia. Thanks, Asterion 20:41, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


Kosovo

e znam da te ne znam. al vidim da si ostavljao neke komentare ranije o kosovu. ajde molim te pomagaj, ja umirem svako vece objasnjavajuci siptarima istoriju. Gianni_ita Gianni ita 15:24, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Админ.

Поштовање, Никола,

Да ли си ти администратор на енглеској Википедији? Питам јер би добро било имати једног представника српске Википедије као администратора на енглеској Википедији. Ако ниси, хајде да се договоримо око кандидатуре, да смислимо стратегију, добијемо подршку неколико екипа и да те изгласамо за администратора. Имаш доста измена и могао би да прођеш. Поздрав,

--Boris Malagurski 23:53, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

House of Boshko

I'm afraid that I don't have the time to handle it, so could you?

P. S. This page needs an archive. --HolyRomanEmperor 14:57, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Please,

I am very busy. When you have time, see through the history of the History of Kosovo article. There has been a massive removal and altering of the info to the incorrect version...

Also, the third kill, third assimilate and third banish is gone from the NDH and the Ustashas again... --HolyRomanEmperor 17:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I am sad to inform you that your changes on Rudjer Boskovic have been completly reverted to User:Elephantus' version. --HolyRomanEmperor 18:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Article Improvement Belgrade

You may wish to vote for Belgrade at the Article Improvement Drive page, here. --estavisti 21:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello! I invite you to join the WikiProject Serbia. All the best, --serbiana - talk 02:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

?

Do we know each other??? I don't know you.. Your name for some reason sounds familiar, as if you were on sezamnet or sezampro, but I am not sure. Either way, I don't know you and vice versa, but I did hear of your strong oppositions against my addition to Wiki list.. How come? What ever it is that you have against me, or whatever you have (I don't really know what is going on in your head or if you have some issues), but I'd rather hear it from you, since it is coming from you, than from other people.. Oherwise, it's ridicilous to say stuff you said apropos my addition to the list, when you and I have never even spoken to each other?!

Svetlana Miljkovic 08:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Please vote

Since there is a dispute, please vote on it in the AID talkpage. --Steven 22:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Choosing Belgrade

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive.
This week Belgrade was selected to be improved to featured article status.
Hope you can help…

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Okruzi

Pre svega ja sam se trudio da sredim članke o svim okruzima Srbije (posao još nisam završio) uključujući i ove kosovske i zaista nije lepo da revertuješ SVE moje izmene na tim člancima (a stvarno mrzim kad neko tako uništava moj rad). Ako se ne slažeš sa nekim delom tih članaka, onda promeni te delove, ali nemoj da revertuješ sve. Drugo, mislim da okruzi Srbije na Kosovu više ne postoje ni u zakonskom ni u faktičkom smislu. Pošto je Srbija prihvatila upravu UN na Kosovu, prihvatila je i civilnu UN administraciju, prema tome jedino okruzi koje je uspostavila UN administracija se mogu smatrati zakonskim. Nije mi jasno po kom zakonu ovi okruzi još postoje, ako je Srbija prihvatila civilnu upravu UN na Kosovu?. Prema tome, ako u nekom zakonu i piše da ovi okruzi postoje, to se onda kosi sa drugim zakonom kojim je Srbija prihvatila civilnu upravu UN. Sledeće, ako administracija ovih okruga i dalje funkcioniše izvan Kosova, to ne znači da oni postoje. Mislim da članke ne treba menjati u tom smislu, ali da treba u njih dodati da prema jednom gledištu ti okruzi još uvek zakonski postoje (Naravno ovde se radi o dva suprotna gledišta države Srbije, jer prema drugom gledištu države Srbije prema kom je Srbija prihvatila administraciju UN, ti okruzi ne bi trebali da postoje). I nema tu nikakve albanske propagande, već je to ono što je Milošević potpisao 1999. PANONIAN (talk) 13:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Re:

>I was never on sezamnet or sezampro, but I was on SETNet, and wrote >for Svet kompjutera, maybe yousaw my name there. Anyway, I saw >something you wrote on sr wiki but it turned out that you have just >translated it, that's all.

Regardless of whether I wrote it or translated, because your opinion is different than mine, you are going to stipulate, demand and condition of others my addition to the list? The last time I checked sr. Wikpedia wasn't called Nikola Smolenki's Misplaced Pages... Don't think I am talking out of nowhere, but rather I know about emails you sent... And if you have some political or personal agendas to push, I suggest that you don't do them on wikipedia..

Svetlana Miljkovic 15:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Дозвола

Видео сам,да си поставио хронологију Београда овде(на енглеску) која је са званичног сајта града,па ме занима да ли имамо дозволу за коришћење њихових материјала или не?

Ако имамо ћорнућу им историју,пошто је наша(на српској) никаква.

Пишем ти овде јер ћеш је овде пре видети,него на нашој(српској),стога и српски језик и ћирилица.Одговори тамо или овде свеједно. CrniBombarder!!! (†) 00:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Odgovor

Zašto bih se čudno ponašao u vezi pitanja Kosova? Ja samo poštujem neke principe i to je sve. Razlog zbog kojeg sam se raspravljao sa Bošnjacima oko Republike Srpske i razlog zbog kojeg editujem članke o Kosovu tako kako editujem je apsolutno isti - smatram da ti članci ne treba da budu uvredljivi za većinu stanovnika ovih teritorija. Ali pošto moji lični stavovi nisu bitni, da pređemo na konkretna pitanja: okruzi su pre svega političko-teritorijalne administrativne jedinice i ako kao takve ne postoje na terenu, onda ne postoje. Na primer, hoćeš li reći da je Tibet nezavisna država samo zato što postoji vlada Tibeta u izgnanstvu? Isti je slučaj i ovde. Što se tiče uprave UN na Kosovu, ona ima ovlašćenja da menja sve. Uprava UN pokriva celokupnu civilnu administraciju na teritoriji Kosova (a okruzi su svakako deo te civilne administracije). Prema tome, ako država Srbija i dalje de jure upravlja ovim okruzima, ona to čini ilegalno, suprotno sporazumu sa UN koji je prihvatila. Ti okruzi postoje na papiru samo zato što su nekom u Srbiji potrebni politički poeni za nove izbore. Znači, nije UNMIK iskoračio iz svojih ovlašćenja, već vlada Srbije, kojoj bi uzgred bilo bolje da se bavi ekonomskim pitanjima i otvaranjem novih radnih mesta nego da troši novce na mlaćenje prazne slame. I kao što sam rekao, ako ovi okruzi ne postoje na terenu, onda ne postoje. Oni postoje samo u fiktivnom smislu, u istom onom smislu u kojem je postojala i Rugovina Republika Kosovo između 1990 i 1999. I sigurno nisam jedina osoba koja smatra da ti okruzi ne postoje. Uostalom, namera mi je bila da tim člancima o bivšim okruzima Kosova poboljšam kvalitet i da ih sačuvam od daljeg vandalizovanja. Ti si naravno revertovao sve moje izmene zato što se ne slažeš sa jednim delom članka, a to baš nije lepo. Ako nemaš vremena da promeniš ono što smatraš netačnim a da sačuvaš moje ostale izmene, onda nemoj ni revertovati dok ne nađeš vremena. Ja uostalom nisam revertovao članke zbog spora oko pitanja da li ti okruzi postoje ili ne, već zbog spora oko generalnog izgleda članaka. Pošto se ne slažem sa tobom oko sadašnjeg statusa ovih okruga ja to neću menjati u člancima, ali neću ni revertovati ako to ti promeniš. Međutim, revertovaću ako ne prihvatiš sadašnji generalni izgled članaka (bez obzira na njihov sadržaj). Toliko. :) PANONIAN (talk) 21:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


I said it is 'greatly to be believed the shots came from the Serbian side' because reports have shown that. I did not include the fact that serbian authorities blocked every effort for autopsies to be performed in order to resolve the issues as to who fired the shots (why did they blocked such a thing?). Even though EVERYONE knew who they were by their names, since the media picked up the story, in the morgue, no one even wanted to labele their bodies as such, but just wrote them under numbers (250 and 251), downplaying who they were when burial came about (religious customs were different for both, since she was muslim and he christian).

Difference between you and me (obviously, beside opinions) is that i have NEVER conditioned your addition to the list, as I don't have that right, and you don't either. There are tons of people who have different views on world than me, but I have NEVER, stipulated and conditioned their addition to any such list. Who the hell are you to do such a thing and think that you have that right??? Do you own Misplaced Pages?

Svetlana Miljkovic 01:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Condemnation of personal attacks

I have noticed a user box on your user page that condemned personal attacks. Without malice, I ask you to please notice that you said, "if you would have anything but hatred in your head, before accusing me..." To me, this sounds critical and inflammatory.


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Long talk page

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