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Infobox

Hi, I'm new here and was wondering why this article doesn't have an infobox. It's one of the first big articles I've seen that doesn't have one. It's a great informative article though. Thanks for putting it on the front page. Simonfreeman (talk) 02:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Hi Simon, There's no need or requirement for articles to have an infobox in any article, and this question was looked at carefully when this had a recent overhaul. There are a lot of articles (and some very, very good ones too) that have not adopted the IB for various reasons, and this follows that practice. I'm glad you enjoyed the article - it was fun to write! - SchroCat (talk) 07:02, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Why bother? There's no pressing need, and it's not overly helpful, given the fullness of the lead. There is certainly no requirement to have one, and the consensus was not to include one here. SchroCat (talk) 12:29, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Useful in repeating what can be found by shifting your eyes a little to the left? I've heard others say they find them hugely distracting, so it's really not possible to please all the people all the time. - SchroCat (talk) 12:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
@Snowman, they're useful in footballer articles, but the information provided in an infobox in this article would be next to nothing.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Blue plaques

Noting that the Sandgate blue plaque has Hattie born in 1922 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgFbjizF6uY), but the one used in the article has 1924, perhaps a footnote would work well to indicate why so many sources differ on her year of birth? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Crisco, I had a quick look when we did the recent overhaul, but couldn't find out where the original mistake had come from, or why it had gained so much traction. Most of the major sources (main biographies, DNB, etc,) and now us, all show the date on the birth certificate as being the correct one. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
A connected query is: why is there a picture of a blue plaque on the main page, rather than a picture of Hattie herself? I'm assuming it's a very deliberate choice? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 09:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes: there is no free use image that we came across of the lady herself, so both images of her are non-free. The plaque is free, so we're able to drop it onto the front page. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:26, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello PaleCloudedWhite, yes it's not ideal, but as SchroCat says above this would be infringement. Copyright laws are the most annoying thing on WP (together with infobox discussions) -- Cassianto 12:48, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
The blue plaque was better than nothing. Why was it removed?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:09, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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