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Are you being serious?

where did you see i mention shlomo sand ? i was referenning to the "palestinian nation" and other propaganda-like theories by the plo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dorpwnz (talk • contribs) 20:10, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

And now tell me , what i dont know? you said i dont know anything as a response to my comment without being very informative. so respond to my comment. will you ? i am willing to change wikipedia in the positive way . a fiction nation based on murder is something very recent . have you heard about the bus stab attack recently?

this is why i am willing to improve the information.--Dorpwnz (talk) 00:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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Editing warring over a long period of time, such as you have at Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries, will result in sanctions if it continues. Please discuss the issue on the talk page until there is a consensus version rather than revert each other. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:18, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Callanec, thanks for your response to the WP:AE request re the Jewish exodus... article.

Please could you give me your blunt advice as to whether my behaviour on the article has been reasonable to date? I am particularly keen to understand how to move forward in the right way on the article. At the moment, Greyshark's most recent revert remains, and i am awaiting expectantly for him/her to explain the rationale for each of the c.15 edits reverted. If he doesn't explain, or perhaps only explains a couple of small points, we can't reach a consensus version, so how should i move forward?

Oncenawhile (talk) 12:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:Dispute resolution is the best bit for how the process works. But if one side doesn't respond on the talk page and you have agreement from other then that is the consensus version. If no one responds then it might be worth either starting an RfC or requesting input from one or more of the WikiProjects. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:52, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I tried DRN already but they told me to come to AN. RfC, 3O or similar won't work because most of the edits are boring fixes rather than something which will pique other editors' interest. There are already other editors around the page but noone is interested in getting involved in this mess.

Surely if someone repeatedly reverts without explaining, and particularly when they revert numerous edits in bulk, they are contravening normal editing practice. This has been going for two months. Please help me!

Oncenawhile (talk) 13:01, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree, but I find it very hard to believe that no one who is a regular on the page has an interest in which what the text says. Yes it would be a violation of normal editing practices to constantly revert without engaging in discussion, which is why I warned all of the involved users. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:08, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

OK thanks. So assuming i can't get anyone else to get involved, at what point can I move forward with the article again? At the moment i am stuck because I am waiting for greyshark to explain the revert. What if Greyshark never comes back? What I tried to do previously was wait 1-2 weeks, and in the absence of response I would revert the revert (or partially revert) and continue working on the article. What do you think? Oncenawhile (talk) 13:16, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good to me, ask the other two people (GreyShark included) to expressly comment in a section on the talk page about the edit in question. If neither of them does (or do and agree with you) you can take that as tacit consent to your edit. Then if either of them reverts without starting or commenting on the talk page discussion, let me know and I'll deal with it. Also, I'm watching your talk page so don't worry about the talkback template. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:20, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, many thanks - i'll do exactly that. What do you think is a reasonable time to leave it before taking tacit consent? A week? Oncenawhile (talk) 13:33, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I'd say about a week, but you should probably leave a note on the other two user's talk pages to let them know that you've proposed a change. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:36, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Why is Oncenawhile, trying to delete maps of Palestine from a Palestinian article? DigDeep4Truth (talk) 04:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC) ~ I was in Error. He was posting to let people know there was a vote being held in secret. PLEASE DELETE, I apologize. DigDeep4Truth (talk) 22:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thank you for your hard work on the "Etymology of Palestine", currently (2014 02 01) labeled. Timeline_of_the_name_"Palestine", may you be made an Admin on Palestine articles. DigDeep4Truth (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for the message

I wish I had more time to be involved. I do miss it so. If I do find the time, I'll try to pop in with something useful. I did want to say thank you for all the hard work you put into to key Palestine related pages. You have made a very valuable contribution and it is much appreciated, by me at least. Cheers, Tiamut 19:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Pogrom, consensus

I noticed the ANI discussion - regarding this part,

We're never going to get any better consensus view because you always get less editors at an article talk than at an afd, so there is no hope of those tags ever coming off. Another grey area in wp which noone knows how to deal with.

Here's just a little tip, take it or leave it;

If you have trouble getting consensus to make a change (such as remove a tag), it can be helpful to make a very clear section on the talk page with a precisely 'Proposed change', and then ask people to "support" or "oppose" below, much like an AfD discussion; and then ask for input on appropriate wikiproject talk pages, to get more people to comment. For that specific article, I suggest asking for input on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Military history because they're one of the most prolific projects.

I'm not suggesting you need to do that right now - I wouldn't worry too much about the tags being around for a while. I just wanted to suggest it as a solution to the more general problem.

I thought I'd write it here on your talk rather than the ANI thread, because it looks like the ANI is completed and can be closed.

Best, 88.104.19.233 (talk) 07:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi 88, thank you for your good advice - I will try that in future. Oncenawhile (talk) 08:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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The AfD templates for Definitions of pogrom and Definitions of fascism both point to the Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Genocide definitions discussion. I presume that this wasn't your intention. I suggest you rectify it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC) Never mind - I understand that you are nominating the lot for deletion simultaneously. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:14, 20 February 2014 (UTC)