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Barnstar for you!

The Template Barnstar
I've looked at your tireless contribution to templates. So i believe this barnstar should suit you. Ibrahim ebi (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
The Template Barnstar
Thanks for your help to improve the Adopt-a-typo template. Much appreciated! Jason Quinn (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
The Template Barnstar
For getting better performance and adding options to the chess diagram template. Bubba73 02:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Let me just second this (since you've got three on this page already). Thank you for all those well-framed edit requests you made to the convert sub-templates. ~Adjwilley (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for editing Sandhani page. Dr. Kabir Hossain (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
The Technical Barnstar
Module:testcase table is great! Thanks for making it! —hike395 (talk) 03:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
The SpongeBob SquarePants Bubble Award
Hey Frietjes! Thanks for your wonderful and helpful contributions in SpongeBob related areas. I really appreciate it. Keep it up! Thanks and happy editing! :) Mediran (t • c) 03:12, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for being observant to other's (i.e. me) ham-fisted hacking and repairing damaged templates without fuss. You rock! FruitMonkey (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
For your work correcting the "year" field in 1000s of uses of {{Infobox Australian place}}. Much appreciated. Mattinbgn (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Wow. That was a quick work here! Happy editing! --    L o g  X   17:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
The Technical Barnstar
Thanks for you work on tables and templates! -- Wywin (talk | contribs) 18:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The Template Barnstar
Thanks for all your work replacing instances of {{convert/spell}} with the new Lua compliant {{convert|...|spell=in}} AdmrBoltz 20:54, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Frietjes, I would like to thank you for taking care and fixing the oil field infobox even without asking. It was really kind of you. Beagel (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox men's college basketball team‎, etc.

Frietjes, here's a template merge I would support in a heartbeat: Template:Infobox men's college basketball team‎ and Template:Infobox women's college basketball team‎.

Have you ever contemplated a comprehensive merge of all the college sports team infobox templates? With a handful of options, I think all U.S. college sports could be accommodated and the team infoboxes would then have a uniform appearance across all sports. Just a thought . . . . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

the first is already proposed here. I had thought about the second as well, but it will take more time to work out all the details, since there are differences in the post-season tournament section for various sports. Frietjes (talk) 22:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I just posted a comment in support of the merge of men's and women's college basketball templates. That pending merge should be a no-brainer, and you are clearly already on top of the two minor issues to be addressed in the combined template.
The creation of a combined infobox template for all U.S. college sports teams would require a lot of work and the inclusion of several options, but the core information to be included is common to all. Differences in NCAA playoff structure, etc., could be accommodated by options to be toggled as needed. The payoff would be worth the effort. Not only should these infoboxes have a common appearance within a given sport, the teams affiliated with a given university should also have a common appearance and graphics style, and that can only be accomplished by a common template across all college sports teams. I think you would find the college football, basketball and baseball sports projects to be supportive, and the other college sports do not have active/vocal WikiProjects and tend to follow the lead of the football, basketball and baseball projects. I would be grateful for your help in making this happen, but I also understand that you have numerous pending template projects already. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:14, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Infobox conversion requests

fixed. Frietjes (talk) 14:17, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Help requested

Hi - Would you be willing to help create a mockup of Template:Infobox basketball biography to help achieve consensus around moving college basketball players to this infobox (see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject College Basketball#Proposal to migrate men's college basketball players and coaches to Template:Infobox basketball biography for discussion)? I would see two changes - 1) link to college colors (there should be a table for some schools linking to Template:Infobox college football player that would suffice for demonstration purposes) and 2) add a field "college_class" for their year in school (freshman, sophomore, etc), to display above the position field. I think mocking up a couple of existing college players/coaches would help people get behind the idea, but I don't know how to create this myself. Can you help (or teach me)? Thank you! Rikster2 (talk) 23:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

sorry for the delay, will have a look in the next couple days. Frietjes (talk) 17:15, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! One concern would be the size of the color table that would need to be added - about 350 D1 college basketball teams. Would this just wreck the template? Rikster2 (talk) 01:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
@Rikster2: the two college color templates (Template:CollegePrimaryHex and Template:CollegeSecondaryHex) seem to be functioning with about 330 entries including aliases. if for some reason this collapses, it should be possible to split it into subtemplates and have an outer switch based on the first letter obtained from {{str left}}. I don't know the theoretical limit for a single switch statement, or the relative costs of a large switch vs str left, but that could be explored. Frietjes (talk) 14:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi - just wanted to check in and see if you';d had an opportunity to look at this? Can we create a mockup of this? I think it would help the project make a decision. Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 00:49, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
@Rikster2: just to be clear, you want to create a sandbox/mockup of Template:Infobox basketball biography which (1) adds coloring based on the value of a new parameter, and (2) adds college_class. is this functionality to be merged with {{infobox basketball biography}}, or are you interested in forking that template to create {{infobox college basketball player}}? I don't typically think it's a good idea to fork templates if it's not completely necessary. would it be possible to simply add functionality to {{infobox NCAA athlete}} based on the value of the |sport= parameter? Frietjes (talk) 15:19, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
The original idea was to create a "College basketball biography" template (like college football has done) that enhanced the look/feel and information capture of NCAA athlete. That template is very bare bones and is not sufficient (in my view). During the discussion at Misplaced Pages:College basketball, the idea came up to just adapt "basketball biography" to cover college players and coaches. This would solve another issue which is conversion from college to prop templates. This problem is an issue for basketball because many people create articles on college players then abandon them once their NCAA career is over, leaving it to editors like me and the others at WP:CBB to find and adapt. I have literally converted infoboxes for players who have been out of school 4-5 years. So the request was to link the color table and add a college_class field that would make the template also work for college players/coaches. So people could keep the same infobox over a 30 year career if appropriate. That was what I was hoping to show, though if that creates too many other problems then I think a new college basketball infobox with some consistency with basketball biography would be a second choice. I don't know enough about the coding to know what the best course of action is, but I thought you might. Does that make sense? Rikster2 (talk) 12:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Frietjes - I wanted to let you know that we've moved college players to the existing Infobox basketball biography (see Marcus Smart for example). Do you think we could get a mock up of the infobox that includes colors and academic class? I really think these would enhance the look/feel of the articles. Thanks for any help you can give! Rikster2 (talk) 17:30, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
@Rikster2: I did put a note to work on this on my "to do" list (see the 6th to last item on my userpage), basically it involves modifying template:infobox basketball biography/style. I am currently on work-related travel for another week, but I will probably have some time to work on it in about a week or two. there is already a hierarchy of colour templates being called by that template depending on the value of the team parameter. hopefully adding one more level won't break anything. we shall see. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 17:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks - and I hope I am not being a pest. Hope your travel has taken you somewhere interesting. Thank you Rikster2 (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
no problem. my travel has taken me to the Netherlands this time. not the optimal time of year, but it's better than my trip last year to Tromsø in the middle of winter, where I never saw the sun. Frietjes (talk) 17:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

@Rikster2: and just when you probably thought it would never happen, we now have college colors in template:Infobox basketball biography, the rest of the changes should be easy in comparison. I created the color template by first merging template:CollegePrimaryHex and template:CollegeSecondaryHex to make Template:NCAA color (could be renamed to make it more or less general). I then created the subpages listed in User:Frietjes/ncaa, which checks the contrast ratio of the colours. anything that is less than 4.5 in that table is considered to be potentially problematic, and is flagged. I don't worry too much about anything over 3. you can change the font color by moving the secondary color to tertiary, and adding FFFFFF or 000000 as the secondary. the reason for keeping a tertiary, is that it could be used as a border color down the road (or with navboxes). ideally, we would merge template:CollegePrimaryHex and template:CollegeSecondaryHex and Template:NCAA color into just one template (or module), but I wanted to make sure I had all the kinks worked out first. Frietjes (talk) 23:58, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Much appreciated! Rikster2 (talk) 02:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

BS-daten

{{BS-daten}} apart from having german names for the parameters, requires the use of break lines and small font. Is anything we can do to make this template less awful? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox SCI case

Hey, I see you've worked on this template before and I've seen you around on other templates, can you see if you can help make some of the changes I've proposed on the talk page about three weeks ago? I'm not one bit familiar with template code. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: I could certainly help, but is there any reason why we don't just merge this with Template:Infobox court case? Frietjes (talk) 15:22, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
I have no opinion on that, I figured that this was split off for a reason. I don't normally work on law articles and came across this only because I'm writing an article on one particular case but I think (and I'm not sure if I'm reading the main template correctly) that this one offers more specific fields not included on the main template, e.g.: laws applied, superceded, overruled, arguedate etc and also provides the SCI image automatically (this I think could be done automatically if you have a selection field for country, right?). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 15:37, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Area of Benin departments

Statoid is outdated. The last area update for Benin was made in 2002. I use Geohive http://www.geohive.com/cntry/benin.aspx The stats are taken straight from the INSAE stat agency. Thricecube 18:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

WHA General Player Draft

I am getting ready to expand the 1972 Player Draft information within the WHA General Player Draft article. Would it be possible for you to format the existing tables into sortable tables which I could then emulate as I expand the article? Your help is much appreciated! Dolovis (talk) 19:39, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox religious building

I rolled back a couple of edits on the religious building template last night as there was a problem with it. I don't know enough about the coding to work out what it was. It was appearing on the left side of pages, had no frame, and was wider than normal. SilkTork 10:46, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

@SilkTork: do you have an example, I see no discussion on the talk page. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Is merge possible?

I wonder how possible is to merge Template:Infobox WNBA biography into Template:Infobox basketball biography. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:30, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: possible but difficult, and given the existence of Template:Infobox NBA biography, seems one-sided to only merge one. Frietjes (talk) 14:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Template:Infobox NBA biography is a redirect. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:11, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: oops, yes, you're right. then, I suppose it seems like a logical merger. someone would need to do some more in depth analysis of what would be required to merge them. Frietjes (talk) 14:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

There are 5 things to take care of:

  • |highschool= needs to be renamed to |high_school=
  • |draft= needs to be demerged to |draft_round= and |draft_pick=. |overseas_career_start= and *|overseas_career_end= do not exist in Infobox basketball biography
  • |profile= is |NBA_profile= so I guess we only need to support both
  • career_teams, overseas_career_teams, awards, medal_templates, medal_templates-expand do not exist in Infobox basketball biography

-- Magioladitis (talk) 14:21, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: seems many of the field labels have WNBA in them as well (e.g., "WNBA head coach of" and "Non-WNBA career")? Frietjes (talk) 14:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
WBNA career can certainly change to just Career but in worst case scenario we could use Template:Infobox basketball biography as the base infobox for Template:Infobox WNBA biography. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:28, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Reformatting external links in basketball bio infobox

Happy New Year! Would you be able to help out with the issue at Template_talk:Infobox_basketball_biography#Historical_profiles_have_moved? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 18:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

will think about it, but you may want to ask Plastikspork (who has a bot) or make a WP:BOTREQ. Frietjes (talk) 18:48, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I've invited Plastikspork to comment here.—Bagumba (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox baseball biography

Hi. I noticed that this template hasn't undergone the changes that Template:Infobox MLB player has experienced. Would you mind putting those into place on the other infobox? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

will have a look this weekend. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:39, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Agriculture#Breed navboxes

Your further input is requested at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Agriculture#Breed navboxes. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Sha Tin Heights Tunnel

An article that you have been involved in editing, Sha Tin Heights Tunnel , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Jc86035 (talk • contributions) 10:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

If you are going to do these

Be so kind as to add {{Equine}} to all new horse breed articles (past and present) and place a link at List of horse breeds - we have a section for extinct breeds. (And we don't put redlinks on the list because with over 400 articles, it IS the navigational area for people looking for all breeds... ) Thank you for project tagging them on the talk pages, by the way. Montanabw 22:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

@Montanabw: per WP:BIDIRECTIONAL, we seem to be over-including {{equine}}, especially in an uncollapsed state. a link to the horse breeds, however, is appropriate. by the way, good luck getting the redirect to Bidet fixed in Template:Horse breeds of France now that it's fully protected for no apparent reason. Frietjes (talk) 22:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
No, it is actually the most critical navbox of all; it contains a link to List of horse breeds and for that reason appears on every horse breed article - all 400+ of them. Otherwise, we'd have 400 articles in one navbox, which would be an endless maintenance nightmare and one you surely are not advocating. I'm OK collapsing it though. (Inclusion was a major issue about 4-5 years ago when one editor kept going in and removing it from all articles, then another adding all back in. Long settled). When equine was created, it was intended to list the main overview articles but could be linked to sub-articles as well. Montanabw 23:08, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
see WP:BIDIRECTIONAL "Every article that transcludes a given navbox should normally also be included as a link in the navbox so that the navigation is bidirectional. Likewise, to achieve this bidirectionality, every article linked in the navbox should have the template transcluded." Frietjes (talk) 23:10, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Trust me, I have had CAPITAL LETTERS directing me to the one-sentence "bidirectional" guideline for days now. The operational word is "should normally" - Seriously, you want a navbox of 400+ articles that mirrors the list page? I doubt anyone does. Montanabw 23:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
@Montanabw: you don't seem to be following what I am saying here. I don't want a navbox with 400+ entries. see my response above where I said "we seem to be over-including {{equine}}, especially in an uncollapsed state". I think we should remove it from articles which do not include said article as a link in the navbox. for example, we would not place template:lists of Russians on every article about a Russian person (please read this related discussion). Frietjes (talk) 14:54, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I understand exactly what you are saying, I'm just saying that I disagree because people do like to read about other horse breeds and; the equine navbox IS the navbox to all other horse breed articles via List of horse breeds as well as the navbox to other horse-related topics. (Sometimes list of horse breeds is linked in an article, sometimes it's not, it's a huge PITA to maintain that as a see also, much easier to fiddle with the navbox and handle all articles at once.) This was fought and settled years ago, and I'd really not prefer to fight it again. I have no objection to collapsing it, though, and looks like you tweaked it to autocollapse, which seems to be how we handle navboxes these days. Montanabw 05:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for all the updating of the population data you are doing on Queensland places! Great work!

Kerry (talk) 00:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

no problem, so many more to do. Frietjes (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

References

Can you please move References section out of Template:List of World War I flying aces/Page bottom and put it in the pages it is transcluded? -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:03, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

fixed. Frietjes (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

This is also an interesting case: Template:Parenthetical referencing editnotice. Editnotice should be only visible when "editing" not when "reading" an article. Moreover, I am not sure this is really needed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

This template should, as Magioladitis points out, only be used in a page notice, or edit notice, but that is, mostly, not how it is being used in the wild. See Actuary for an example of its being used correctly. I see someone had a go at trying not to display it in anything other than an edit notice, but failed. --NSH002 (talk) 10:59, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
@Magioladitis and NSH002: I fixes a few, it would be great if I could have some help. here is how I fixed it for Siku Toys.
and you are done. Frietjes (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Frietjes sometimes you are amazing. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Thanks for the invite, Freijtes, but I can't set up an edit notice (other than in my own user space), since this can only be done by "administrators, accountcreators, and template editors." This is also, no doubt, why it's being used incorrectly in the wild, as most editors are not admins/etc, nor can they be bothered to ask a (usually busy) admin to do it for them. Regards --NSH002 (talk) 16:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Can you please check Template:EH listed building row too? I think it is too heavy and pages that use it take a while to save. Maybe the call to the reflist causes problems? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:29, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Color display problem

Hi, will you please fix the errors at User:MKar/sandbox2, color of both the BJD and SAMO are not visible on screen.--Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 18:04, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

@MKar: fixed. Frietjes (talk) 18:11, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank You.--Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

More pages with html list elements

Revived thread on HTML list elements and HTML table element. Can you please sync the current lists with your lists? -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

March list for HTML list elements and HTML table element are available. Your help is valuable. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:35, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

There is a whitelist function on Checkwiki for cases that can't be fixed or are ok, but Checkwiki labels it an error. Do any articles on the HTML list elements list need to be whitelisted? Bgwhite (talk) 22:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite:, so far I haven't found anything on either list (12 or 31) that needs to be whitelisted in a strict sense. there are some that cannot be directly converted, but that is typically a sign that something less automated needs to be considered (e.g., converting tables to infoboxes, adding new parameters to existing templates, or creating new templates like the 'ordered list' template). I will let you know if I come across anything that I can't figure out how to convert. Frietjes (talk) 23:00, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Frietjes I did some of HTML table elemements (error 31) with AutoEd/manually but I think you prefer col-begin/col-end, so feel free to improve them if necessary. I tried to use col-xxx templates by myself and I failed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:39, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Less than 190 items in the error 12 list. Most of them are tricky and I'll need your help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:01, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

will work on it in about a week, as I will have limited Internet this weekend. Frietjes (talk) 01:49, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
@Magioladitis and Bgwhite: will need to adjust the regexp used for generating list 12, since it seems to have missed this stray ol. Frietjes (talk) 18:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't see this until Magioladitis mentioned it to me. I can check for unbalanced ol brackets, which would catch this case. Bgwhite (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

April lists for HTML list elements and HTML table element are available. Your help is valuable. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Less than 150 items in the error 12 list. We could finish it this month perhaps. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:35, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Do you think we should also check for things like 2011 MasterCard Tennis Cup – Women's Singles in the future? WP:UBLIST seems to allow this situation. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:02, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

@Magioladitis and Bgwhite: I thought that was included in 12, since it is an HTML list. that one in particular is in conflict with WP:LISTGAP, and should be fixed like this. Frietjes (talk) 13:22, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Same for 2011 MasterCard Tennis Cup – Women's Singles. I guess if someone checks all these tennis pages there 'll be many. I also agree that the CHECKWIKI list should include them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:32, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Graham would know best. Does this edit fix a listgap problem? I wonder because WP:LISTGAP talks about unbulleted lists and not ordered lists. Bgwhite (talk) 18:26, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
No need to trouble Graham; examining the HTML source shows a single OL, which is what we want. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:31, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Indeed. Thanks, Andy. Graham87 00:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Pigsonthewing I've found a case where this is a problem... if the list is in different table columns. In New Caledonia, there is a three column table. Each column has part of a list and they are not inside a single OL. Bgwhite (talk) 23:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I found 254 pages with ol. The list can be found at User:Magioladitis/sandbox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:23, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Bad news. Extensive search gave me 4,623 pages. The list can be found at User:Magioladitis/sandbox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Is this something a bot can fix? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Frietjes, did you finish the entire list found in my sandbox? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: as far as I can tell, yes, but I may have missed a few, so feel free to regenerate the list. also, there were about 50 false-positives on the list (i.e., no list markup in the article). Frietjes (talk) 19:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I updated User:Magioladitis/sandbox with the result found here. After next month we ll get a full list. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I moved your comment

Hey there, I moved your comment to Misplaced Pages:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_25#Template:TAPPS_1A because I forgot to delete the relisted thread. --Jax 0677 (talk) 05:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

thanks, I will move it back. Frietjes (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Chromacoding of the Systems of Measurement template

Hello,

I noticed that you removed the chromacoding of the systems of measurement template in this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Systems_of_measurement&diff=next&oldid=590945730 Why? Michael Glass (talk) 00:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

@Michael Glass: seemed non-standard and unnecessary per WP:Deviations. could add it back if there is a reason for it. Frietjes (talk) 00:38, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply. Another editor put it in to distinguish between the different classes of measures. I know he spent a lot of time and effort to get the colours right, so it seems a pity to lose it, but uniformity with other templates is also an important consideration. Michael Glass (talk)

Change to Template:Infobox medieval text breaks image

Hi. I'm curious about why you made this change to Template:Infobox medieval text. It seems to break the image. You'll see that the template is now listed at Category:Templates with missing files because of this update to the image. Looking forward to hearing back from you! - tucoxn\ 19:47, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

@Tucoxn: you just need to purge the cache and it should go away. Frietjes (talk) 19:50, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 Thanks! I wonder why that change made it appear in the category if the image didn't really break. Maybe it's a Lua-related problem. Thanks again. - tucoxn\ 19:55, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
@Tucoxn: don't think it's necessarily lua, but just what happens when the doc is transcluded, and the transcluded version lags behind the live version. I usually purge it after changing the template, to allow the transcluded doc to update, but probably forgot to do it that time. I will check/fix some of the others in the category. Frietjes (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Change to Independence Bowl template

I noticed that you changed the name to "AdvoCare V100/Duck Commander Independence Bowl" in the template title. Why stop there, shouldn't you also add "Poulan/Sanford/PetroSun/etc. etc."? It makes for a long title and as sponsorship changes throughout the years, probably won't fit. Sponsors come and go but it will always be known as the "Independence Bowl". Roberto221 (talk) 07:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC) Roberto221

do what you like. Frietjes (talk) 13:58, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Pop format

Hi. Your 'repair pop format error' on the Safety Bay article doesn't seem to be working. Can you take another look, pls? Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 04:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

fixed for you. Frietjes (talk) 15:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
This can't be right—you cite a 2011 census figure which was last retrieved in 2008. When I click on the link I get "The QuickStat area SSC52236 in the year 2011 doesn't exist". Sorry to be a bother. Bjenks (talk) 16:30, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Captain fb

Template:Captain fb has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. – PeeJay 20:26, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Template help needed

Hi Frietjes, you sorted out an infobox problem in a flash the other week, which was great. I wonder whether you can help with this query? I'll write some more there what's needed. No trouble if it takes a while; no hurry. Schwede66 05:31, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

@Schwede66: mostly done, will reply there. by the way, I nominated a few unused NZ templates for deletion at WP:TFD. Frietjes (talk) 15:24, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
If I may chime in on this thread, NSH002 suggested that if I asked very politely you might be able to help decrypt a template, Frietjes? I am looking to add a line to Template:Infobox muscle regarding Anatomical terms of muscle, but I am reticent to make a change as the template appears to be written in a variant of hieroglyphics. I was wondering, if you had the time, whether you'd be able to reformat that infobox (and also Template:Infobox bone if you had time) using current wiki-syntax? I'd be extremely grateful. Kind regards, --LT910001 (talk) 03:30, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
@LT910001: so much to do, but this should be done. Frietjes (talk) 16:53, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

An RfC that you may be interested in...

As one of the previous contributors to {{Infobox film}} or as one of the commenters on it's talk page, I would like to inform you that there has been a RfC started on the talk page as to implementation of previously deprecated parameters. Your comments and thoughts on the matter would be welcomed. Happy editing!

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Anatomy Barnstar

The Golden Galen barnstar
You have been awarded the prestigious Golden Galen barnstar for your contributions to Misplaced Pages's anatomy articles. Thank you for your contributions and well done!

Thanks for helping out! Truly, much appreciated --LT910001 (talk) 02:50, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Frietjes, one more! {{Infobox anatomy}}, if you have time --LT910001 (talk) 06:17, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
One question. What does "white-space:nowrap" in the templates mean? --LT910001 (talk) 06:48, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
@LT910001: style="white-space:nowrap" and/or class="nowrap" are roughly equivalent to using {{nowrap}}. all three are intended to keep the text from wrapping over more than one line. will look at {{Infobox anatomy}}. it was on my radar, but I had not had time to tackle it yet. Frietjes (talk) 14:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
Thank you for adding team colors for college basketball players. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Colors in basketball infoboxes

NBL infobox help

Hi. Would you happen to know why NBL players no longer have team colours showing on the infobox? Could it be to do with User:Eccy89 changing stuff to do with infobox basketball club and integrating it into NBL team articles i.e. removing infobox NBL club? User:Rikster2 recommended asking you. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:44, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

@DaHuzyBru: see the thread directly above this one. Frietjes (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit of format on Del in cylindrical and spherical coordinates

Hey, your edit on this page (on 11 April 2013) seems to have made it very difficult to view the table. When trying to scroll horizontally, I have to first scroll down to find the little "sub scrollbar", estimate how much to scroll horizontally, and the scroll back up. But it's easy to become lost in all the equations.

As an example, try finding the table entry for the Gradient and Parabolic Cylindrical Coordinates. You may see that it's quite difficult.

I'm not sure if it's just me (using Firefox 27 on Ubuntu 13.10) that's having that issue now, but would you kindly take a second look at the page?

Thanks!

Monsterman222 (talk) 08:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Monsterman222: the problem is that the table is very wide, and overflows the screen. you can remove the <div style=...> tag at the top of the table if you want, but then you will be stuck with the table overflowing. either way, you are going to need a scrollbar for narrow screens. Frietjes (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
@Frietjes: Right, I see the issue. But, even for narrow screens, I still think that it's better to have the somewhat ugly, overflowing table (and use the browser's built-in scrollbars which are always present) than have the table look nicer, but be very difficult to use due to the horizontal scrollbar being only visible at the bottom of the table. I wanted to see if you agree before I make that edit.

Monsterman222 (talk) 21:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Monsterman222: should also consider either reducing the font size, or restructuring the table so it isn't as wide. Frietjes (talk) 21:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox referendum

Template:Infobox referendum has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox multichoice referendum. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 02:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Ping

Regards, Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Sardanaphalus (talk) 13:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Sardanaphalus (talk) 00:04, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Just spotted this. Thanks. Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:01, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Infobox Old Mexican Cabinet with Vice President (1824-1880)

A tag has been placed on Template:Infobox Old Mexican Cabinet with Vice President (1824-1880) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion because it is an unused duplicate of another template, or a hard-coded instance of another template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

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Mass reverts

Mass reverting others' edits is unacceptable; doing so with no, or meaningless, edit summaries, doubly so. Please explain your concerns clearly, on article or template talk pages, preferably before reverting. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

just cleaning up the contested substitutions, and addition of parser functions to articles. Frietjes (talk) 15:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
That's neither clear, nor on article or template talk pages. And you continue to revert me with no edit summaries. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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look closely at this diff, do you see the '#if:' statements? this requires clean up. Frietjes (talk) 15:14, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Give me time. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:17, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox pipeline

Hi, Frietjes. You are expert in the field of infoboxes. Could yo please see {{Infobox pipeline}}. The field discharge_bbl_d is meant to be million barrels per day; however, it uses Mbbl/d instead of MMbbl/d. Could you fix this? Thank you in advance. Beagel (talk) 05:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Tracking bogus parameters

It's working great! I've fixed up some articles, added supported parameter to our doc when they were missing, was able to cut out some fluff we're not using from the template, and added a useful parameter that we should have had. Thanks! — kwami (talk) 07:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Good garbage collecting

Compliments for picking up that bad-parameter check. -DePiep (talk) 07:33, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for improving page

Thank you for your edits on Rep-tile on March 12th. I'm still baffled by a lot of the Wiki mark-up, so constantly make errors. MagistraMundi (talk) 10:04, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Module:Basketball color

Hi! We now use Module:Basketball color in Latvian Misplaced Pages. Could you create one more function (we just started Lua modules @lv wiki and we don't have some big pro users in Lua)? I think it won't be a problem for you as you created the module and know what is what there :)
So: it would be nice if I could write something like this {{#invoke:Basketball color|team_color|Boston Celtics|1}} and get #04824C (or 04824C). You can do that here, too, it would be ok. --Edgars2007 19:16, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

@Edgars2007: created a template so {{Basketball color|Boston Celtics|1}} works. feel free to move it to a better name (e.g., lv:Veidne:Basketbols krāsa). Frietjes (talk) 19:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much :) --Edgars2007 20:11, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Re: York City F.C. league record by opponent

Thanks! Now fixed. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean?

Hi You added something on this page my sandbox.
What and why, what do you mean by it I don't understand? --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: I removed your page from Category:Pages with script errors. Frietjes (talk) 19:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok thanks.Goran tek-en (talk) 20:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Rainbow Books

Template:Rainbow Books has been nominated for merging with Template:Compact disc. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Conquerist (talk) 16:16, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Precious again

tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 441st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize,

Awards infobox for German wiki

Hi Frietjes! Thank you for the offered help over here. Do you speak German by any chance? This doesn't look that bad at all (example), but it'd need some adaption to become a proper looking general award infobox. Thanks and all the best from Mecklenburg to err.. Frietjeland? ;) -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 18:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

@Horst-schlaemma: Ich kann nur ein bischen Deutsch sprechen. I bin austauschstudentin in 1994 in der Schweiz gewesen. Nach 20 jahren ... but, it appears you can speak english, so all is well. first, we need a name for the new template, e.g., de:Vorlage:Infobox Auszeichnung or de:Vorlage:Infobox Ehrung? or, do we just change the military one to make it more general? Frietjes (talk) 18:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Sehr schön, klingt doch noch gut! :) But I'm perfectly fine with doing it in English, just asked because the infobox might need a little understanding.
I think de:Vorlage:Infobox Ehrung nails it. "Preis" would be possible too, but might be a little limiting, as I'd like to include decorations like the Federal Cross of Merit as well. This could serve as a base perhaps, I'm not sure how to program this correctly. But it'd be great if it'd look more like this. :) Cheers Horst-schlaemma (talk) 10:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
@Horst-schlaemma: I started something. Please correct my German, and add/or subtract any fields. let me know if you need help, but you should be able to see the basic pattern for adding a field. and let me know if you want me to check the syntax. Frietjes (talk) 00:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Very good, thank you! Though I'd rather take out the section on "Fernsehberichterstattung". Since that's something you'd hardly add in a German infobox, but rather in the text itself if there was any TV coverage. Thanks and all the best, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 07:59, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

The Sun Also Rises

I saw that you edited {{The Sun Also Rises}}. Since you are interested in this subject, I was wondering if you would care to comment at Talk:The_Sun_Also_Rises#Template_removal regarding the use/removal of {{The Sun Also Rises}} at The Sun Also Rises.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:38, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

The Template Barnstar
Thank you so much for your fix at Template:Infobox winery. You've just fixed something that had been a small annoyance to me and probably others for a long time. SchreiberBike talk 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:UNT Music‎

No biggie, but why not leave the interlanguage links? It seems helpful for subjects/institutions that have international reach. Not taking advantage of it diminishes the overall picture; it's a distinct opportunity to use the links in a way that connects the dots. The alternative would be to translate all the linked articles, which is cumbersome. And translating all the articles calls into question notability beyond the original language. Eurodog (talk) 15:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

@Eurodog: we should be careful to distinguish between articles and navigation boxes. a list article is a great place for a complete list, while navigational boxes are for navigation within WP (not for external links). see WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. so, in short, if someone wants the complete lists, he/she can use List of University of North Texas College of Music alumni and related articles. Frietjes (talk) 15:52, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Have a cookie

A Cookie for your work behind-the-scene's on various currency articles

On a number of occasions now I've noticed you've made a whole series of benificial but tedious improvements to various currency articles. These are mostly the type of improvements that are behind the scene's (formatting, wikifying, etc.) and thus might go unrecognized, so I wanted to take a moment to thank you and let you know it's appreciated. Gecko G (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Facial bones

Hi Frietjes, your edit on this template introduced a minor error of layout. Please have a look, many thanks. I've not checked any other templates for this. Lesion 21:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox film awards

Hello, Frietjes, i need your help, in the film award template, i need to add best_film_jury_choice and best_film_viewers_choice phrases, can you help me, if so then please add these two because it is needed in the film articles where Jury and Viewers choice film are selected as a films of year, so it is necessary to mention in highlights. Please add these, please. Fushan007 (talk) 23:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

@Fushan007: added. Frietjes (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

ToC

Is it possible that "Template:List of female movie actors by name header" is replaced by some Toc template instead of having 20 wikilinks? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:30, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: I replaced the ToC within the template with something slightly more automated. it should be possible to make this even more automated using LUA, but it would take some time to rewrite it. or, now that I think about it, you could move the template to List of female movie actors by name then just transclude the top part of the article in all the subarticles. Frietjes (talk) 14:13, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Basketballyearcat

Hi Frietjes. Could you please fix the coding on Template:Basketballyearcat so that the very first year possible is 1891? That is when basketball was invented and there shouldn't be anything prior to that year. Thanks! Jrcla2 (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Jrcla2: fixed, and now you don't have to pass the year to the template, just use {{basketballyearcat}} and it will automatically determine the year from the category name. by the way, do you think it would be better for the template to generate links to five years prior and five years after, rather than the years in the decade? in other words, 2001 would have links to 1996 through 2006 rather than 2000 to 2010. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Great, appreciate it. I agree with you about the years - it's always infinitely more useful (IMO) to see the preceding and succeeding years rather than that decade. If you made that change as well I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
done. Frietjes (talk) 16:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hospital

Do you think we still have to keep comments in all pages as instructed in Template:Infobox hospital? I think these are old instructions and nowadays not needed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: I don't think so, but someone else may disagree. I am also a fan of removing empty fields that are unlikely to be used in the near future. Frietjes (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Impressive

Hello Frietjes,

This is impressive and I will look more closely and learn from it soon. Thank you for this editing.

Do you know what class and/or styling to set here so that (1) the groupname backgrounds are the same as the overall background and (2) the overall background fills the whole template? Solution and/or advice most welcome.

Sardanaphalus (talk) 16:55, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Sardanaphalus: this version works well for me. is there anything more needed? as far as the aligned table template/module goes, I plan to add a 'rowXclass' parameter in a moment, which will allow you to set the class for the entire top row. and, I think it would be good to be able to toggle which rows/cols are header rows and columns, with the proper scope parameter added, but for now, it seems solve the problem of simple embedding of tables into templates without having to renumber every time you add a new row (e.g., when you use infobox|child=yes and you want to add a new row). Frietjes (talk) 17:25, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks much

Thank you for your formatting help at Bomis, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Sup instead of small

I noticed that pages which transclude {{tracklist}} (for example Stereo (MGK song)) use sup tags instead of small. In most cases, unclosed. Is this something expected? -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:17, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: I would say you don't want either sup or small tags here. Frietjes (talk) 18:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
I agree. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:33, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Handbook of Religion and Health

Can you please take a look at Handbook of Religion and Health? The book contents are given with an awful way. Btw, only two pages left at User:Magioladitis/sandbox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:32, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Merging of F1 team infoboxes

Hi Frietjes. Just wanted to say thanks for the great job you did merging {{Infobox F1 team}} and {{Infobox former F1 team}}. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 10:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Aligned table help

Hello Frietjes,

  1. I'm trying {{Aligned table}} in the sandbox here and am wondering how to avoid the gaps that appear in its corresponding testcases (due, I imagine, to unfilled cells or rows). I've tried a few things without success and feel I must've missed or forgotten something..?
  2. Similarly, I'm pretty sure I'm overlooking or have forgotten how to avoid the Template:95% repetitions you can see in the code for the Vitamins and Trace metals sections of the template..?
  3. When a styleY.X is provided in an {{aligned table}}, does it inherit anything from styleX and/or rowstyleY, or, as I think is the case, start from a default..? (If it is the latter, maybe something like |precedence=col or row could be set to indicate whether styles from styleX or rowstyleY would take precedence when combined to form a default styleY.X..?)
  4. And would it be tricky to set up names such as colXalign, colXclass, colXstyle, rowYclass, rowYstyle, colXrowYstyle etc as alternatives to alignX, classX, etc..?

{{Aligned table}} looks like a very useful thing – I obviously just need to learn a bit more about it. Regards, Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

for that particular application, I would suggest using {{infobox3cols}}. the aligned table template will render cells for any defined parameters, even if they are empty. as far as the X.Y is concerned, it does not inherit. the order is styleX.Y > rowXstyle > styleX (the same is true for class). Frietjes (talk) 14:41, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
  • As I'd already spent some time on an {{Infobox}} version that preceded the one using {{Aligned table}}s, I've returned to and implemented that one rather than take on {{Infobox3cols}}. Thanks, though, for making me aware of this possibility.
Thanks also for confirming that styleY.X etc doesn't inherit anything. Do you think it would be worth setting up something like {{{precedence}}} above to enable it to start from a styleY or styleX styling..?
I'm about to look at Module:Aligned table to see how straightforward (or not) adding the alternative colXalign etc names might be.
Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:44, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
... Doesn't look like I can guess how alternative parameter names are added. Is it something tricky to achieve in Lua..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:02, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
I added colalignX, colclassX, colstyleX, ... which matches the rowalignY, rowclassY, rowstyleY, ... which matches the syntax used by {{infobox}}. feel free to experiment with the module sandbox. Frietjes (talk) 13:51, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend the {{Infobox}} variable-naming: colalignX can suggest, for example, the Xth kind of column alignment rather than the alignment for the Xth column (and so on). But I'll experiment in the sandbox and see what happens. Sardanaphalus (talk) 17:54, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Done with old location map?

Are you done with Template:Location map/decdeg and Template:Location map/overlay? (I assume that was you who tagged them for deletion; otherwise, I have no idea why they were deleted again). Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:44, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

I never needed the redirects, just the functionality preserved in the /old version. Frietjes (talk) 13:38, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Br tags inside infobox parameters

Please check C (programming language) and edit history. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:52, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

started a thread. Frietjes (talk) 14:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox nutritional value

(rm unjustified width parameter)

Why unjustified? Sardanaphalus (talk) 17:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

we don't need per-article widths/labelstyles/datastyles/bodystyles or really any other per-article styling. the default width ensures uniform presentation across articles. the |width= (and other unnecessary styling parameters) removed from most if not all infoboxes and sidebars. Frietjes (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
In that case, perhaps a bot or bots should trek among the pages using infoboxes, sidebars, etc and ensure any images or other templates immediately above or below the infoboxes etc are this default width. Also, are you sure striving for what sounds like a "one size fits all" approach is wise? It seems to me that the more an infobox etc is used, the more the variety in what it's asked to present grows – especially the more general or overarching the topic. Uniformity needn't mean rigidty..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:29, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
yes, this is the reason for using the defaults in {{infobox}} and {{sidebar}} which are the same. and yes, uniformity does restrict variation by definition. Frietjes (talk) 18:33, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
I suppose it's a matter of degree. And, I suppose I'd say that uniformity is something that's more described than prescribed. In other words, to take the cases in point, more than some variation in width, or in the means to accommodate information, etc, would be needed before uniformity among a family of templates and their use is lost. Their all being near-identical may be lost, but not their uniformity. Preventing such variation makes it more difficult to produce or maintain uniformity in some – perhaps many – articles, thanks to the other elements (images, other templates, etc) brought together to make them.
Perhaps some sort of underlying "gutter" for templates/images/etc might be worthwhile, on the righthand side (if not both sides) of the screen/page.
Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:44, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

"DR Congo" or "Democratic Republic of the Congo" ?

Hello Frietjes, this article title —

What do you think about that? Maiō T. (talk) 19:12, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

@Maiō T.: I don't really have an opinion on the primary name. you can always create redirects. however, the primary name should be the link used within navboxes to allow WP:BRINT. Frietjes (talk) 13:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
DR Congo national basketball team is now the primary article – 80 articles link there. The "Democratic"- article is now just a redirect page, but, not used (nothing links there). Maiō T. (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Pages with small around ref

Cc: Bgwhite. Pages found User:Magioladitis/sandbox contain census box with small tags around refs. Should the tags be removed? -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:52, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

I would. if there is a desire to make the refs smaller, then that feature should be added to {{US Census population}}. Frietjes (talk) 21:57, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. One more question: There are plenty of pages such as Czechoslovakia at the 1984 Winter Olympics where there is a sup tag inside a small tag to indicate a note. I usually move the sup tag outside. Is this OK or not? For example I change <small><sup>1</sup> foo</small> to <sup>1</sup> <small>foo</small>. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
probably making your life harder, but I would recommend this change since the small tags are indicating a list of footnotes. Frietjes (talk) 22:03, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
215 similar pages just posted at User:Magioladitis/sandbox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: mostly done? may have missed some ... Frietjes (talk) 23:59, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I noticed that most of the sports related pages in Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/063 dump have a similar problem. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Early Lutheran controversies

Thanks for these edits. I see they mean you've already managed to implement the colXclass kind of parameter names for {{Aligned table}}, which I appreciate as I'm about to try using the template again. It looks like the class "sortable" will work with it, which, if so, means I'll be wondering whether it's possible (without too much effort) to create a sortable aligned table that can be split across a page or template, wrapping bottom-to-top from left to right (or can this be done already somehow?). Just in case you don't already have enough Misplaced Pages things to consider. Regards, Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:37, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

PS Did you notice how the hlist in Early Lutheran controversies' row1 cell3 seems to cause row1's content to become misaligned?

May lists

-- Magioladitis (talk) 08:20, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: why do we have Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/100 dump and Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/0100 dump. also, why was 1999 TranSouth Financial 400 not included in Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/012 dump? sure, it has mismatched list tags, but it also has list elements, so 100 is a subset of 12? Frietjes (talk) 13:20, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
I agree with you. Since CHECKWIKI is a multi-language projects Bgwhite had expressed the opinion that some Wikipedias might allow HTML list elements. This is way the list is split in to two. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh. 100 and 0100 must be a typo in the code! Let's ping @Bgwhite:. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:34, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Same for Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/101 dump and Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/0101 dump. After the millenium bug now we have the three-digits bug. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:36, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
the regexp also should be adjusted, since Commercial Radio Hong Kong was put on the list for having <<Ultimate. I would suggest something like "<*(?:ul|ol|li)", where \s is any whitespace character, and assuming the match is case insensitive. by adding the trailing , it won't match <ultimate. Frietjes (talk) 13:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: The 101 and 0101 problem is my fault. Code always added a 0 because there were no errors below 100. 101 should be the proper list name. If we get to 1000 errors, there is either something seriously wrong with Misplaced Pages or our mental state for adding so many errors. Bgwhite (talk) 18:09, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: 100 should be mostly done modulo false-positives (e.g., <Old French in Vulgar Latin vocabulary) and other ones that I may have overlooked. Frietjes (talk) 22:30, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Vulgar Latin vocabulary is the only one left. As it is just one article, will whitelist it. The <<Ultimate issue is not a problem on enwiki, but would be on other wikis that use guillemets, so I'll have to fix that. Bgwhite (talk) 23:00, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: or replace the < with &lt;, which is what was done in intercept message. Frietjes (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
An even better solution. Bgwhite (talk) 23:07, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: done and 12 should be near zero shortly. Frietjes (talk) 23:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: 12 should be done module any that I missed. Frietjes (talk) 23:19, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
You just made Magioladitis' day. I hope you asked for the pay upfront. He is a little shifty when it comes to paying off debts. Bgwhite (talk) 23:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
12 done is great news! -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Aligned table/doc

Apologies if I've introduced any inaccuracies here. Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox organization

Do you think the edit I'm requesting there is worthwhile? I'd appreciate your evaluation. (I've also asked about how {{{one|{{{two|}}}}}} doesn't produce the same result as {{#if:{{{one|}}}|{{{one}}}|{{{two|}}}}} there.) Sardanaphalus (talk) 01:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

the difference occurs when one is present, but blank. it looks like you figured this out. Frietjes (talk) 13:52, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Not by me, but thanks to User:Lfdder's addition to the thread. In the meantime, I decided to go ahead with listing all the changes making up the requested edit, adapted the testcase you added and uncovered some more problems (mostly due to this subtle difference between using #if:s and pipes) that the current template already seems to need. Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Change to Template:Infobox Nuclear weapons test

Frietjes, you made the changes I requested to the nuclear infobox earlier this year. I would request one additional change.

The box has navigation left and right (to the preceding and following test series). I need an additional option, to move upwards. From test series pages I need provide a link to move upwards to country summary pages. The name of the entry could be "Summary" or whatever matches similar use in other infoboxes.

At the country summary pages I need to have an new infobox which will allow navigation to preceding and following summary pages as well as upwards to a world-wide summary page. It would need the name of the country it represents, but everything else I can think of would be immediately available in the table on that page anyway.

Any questions, let me know; I'm watching this page. SkoreKeep (talk) 16:23, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello? Am I improperly addressing the system, or causing a problem? SkoreKeep (talk) 02:26, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@SkoreKeep: can you provide me with an example set of articles? e.g., a parent article, and a few child articles. Frietjes (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Surely. At the low level, consider Operation Greenhouse, Operation Redwing, Operation Tinderbox and the higher level List of nuclear weapons tests of the United States. Another: Reggane series, French nuclear tests, 1979-1980 French nuclear tests, with France's nuclear testing series.
At the top of the hierarchy is List of nuclear weapons tests, which accesses each country's summary page. SkoreKeep (talk) 23:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello? SkoreKeep (talk) 17:42, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Date display problem of Infobox

Hi Frietjes, please fix the error at No 2014 Date, 2014 date is not displayed in the output.--Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 14:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

@MKar: the problem is that 2025 on that WP is equal to ୨୦୧୪, not 2014. so, you need to either translate the years, or add a language code to the #time call. since it's currently in use, I will assume the better solution is to translate. Frietjes (talk) 14:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. --Mrutyunjaya Kar (talk) 02:08, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

special characters

I added a defaultsort here and here to prevent them from being list as CHECKWIKI error 6. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: you should explain this to Kj1595 who doesn't seem to understand. Frietjes (talk) 14:57, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Excellent work on the Nanjing districts template!

Nice work!
Thanks so much for the work on the Nanjing districts template! Your input on the template itself and placement within articles is extremely helpful! I had posted two questions about how to format it and you resolved both issues! It's very much appreciated and looks really nice now. CaroleHenson (talk) 15:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Backgrounds from navbox classes

Hello again, Frietjes: I can use the navbox-title class to produce the #ccf background (the "Level 1 color") and navbox-abovebelow to produce #ddf ("Level 2") and I think I'd once worked out what to use to produce the "Level 3" #e6e6ff, but now don't seem able to do so. What have I forgotten or am misremembering..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:11, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

one two two
three
three
check MediaWiki:Common.css. it's going to be harder since it requires both a parent class of navbox-subgroup and either navbox-abovebelow or navbox-group. you might have some luck asking them to add 'navbox-subsubgroup' or 'navbox-level3' or whatever as an alias to the nested class definitions. Frietjes (talk) 20:14, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Infobox organization may be broken

You were the last editor to make changes to {{Infobox organization}}. I noticed at Royal Forest and Bird Protection Society of New Zealand the image was not displaying, and after a bit of experimenting found that it will not display if image_border is specified. See my edit to it. I don't know if this is related to your change but would appreciate it if you could look into it. This glitch resulted in the image used in this article being nominated for deletion as unused, and potentially this might affect many images.-gadfium 01:02, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

  • I've just added a message to the thread above, so noticed your message here. I was also involved in the recent {{Infobox organization}} overhaul and the glitch originates with me – I think I interpreted "image_border" as meaning "filename of an image with border already added" rather than "width of border to be applied to image" – so, my apologies. I'm confident Frietjes will know what to do to correct how image_border is handled, but I'll also try myself in the template's sandbox and see what happens. Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
image is handled by Module:InfoboxImage, where it looks like a border (light grey, 1(?)px) may either be added (|border=yes) otherwise omitted (|border=). I've amended {{Infobox organization}}'s sandbox version to treat anything set as image_border to mean |border=yes and added a testcase here. Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:06, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
@Gadfium: looks like the order-of-precedence was changed here. I rolled it back to the prior logic. the issue is that while {{{a|{{{b|}}}}}} is not the same as {{#if:{{{a|}}}|{{{a}}}|{{{b|}}}}}, it's pretty close. however, it's definitely not the same as {{{b|{{{a|}}}}}} or {{#if:{{{b|}}}|{{{b}}}|{{{a|}}}}}. I had fixed some of the bugs introduced in that edit, but did not catch them all. the larger issue here is that |image_border= is entirely undocumented, and probably added during a prior template merger. I am now tracking it with Category:Pages using infobox organization with undocumented parameters to see if we can safely change it to a parameter that adds a border around the image. thank you for the bug report. Frietjes (talk) 14:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much.-gadfium 21:40, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Infobox film

Hi. I've noticed a lot of old parameters for "editor" rather than "editing" which don't show up in the template. I was wondering if you or a page stalker could include a sort of redirect in the template which will display editor as editing.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

added, will see if there are any complaints. Frietjes (talk) 14:43, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I think there is a pretty clear case for converting Infobox Swiss town now. It's been open three weeks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Green?

I wonder why {{multilingual quote}} as used in Bernward Doors results in a green square below the writing? - Once I am here, a method to define an image size as a multiple of "em" would be nice. (I forgot where that was discussed.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:08, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

the ability to resize images using em units would require changes to the backend software, as far as I can tell. so, I would suggest starting a thread at WP:VPT if you want more details, or to see if there is any support for it. Frietjes (talk) 16:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! How about the green? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing that also, and the specifications header! - Next wish (will probably never end): the last lines in the multilingual seems at a different line spacing, and there's too much white space below. (A problem that looked similar was recently fixed.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: for the white space at the bottom, you may want to try either removing or changing the margin-bottom:.5em at the top of the template. the odd spacing within the quote should be solvable, but will require some experimentation. Frietjes (talk) 22:19, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
It looks good now, thank you again, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

VIXX albums

Thank you for your contributions to these new pages. Hopefully other will take the initiative and do the same. - goth67

Template:World map indicating continents

Hello, Frietjes – Am I missing a simpler way to define the styling in the {{Aligned table}} used here? Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

infoboxes need attention

These pages have an infobox that need your attention. Check |leader_name1=.

-- Magioladitis (talk) 05:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

About 40 unclosed small tags on Eastern Continental Divide and an unclosed comment tag somewhere which I can't find. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:19, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Cerrito, Rio Grande do Sul needs proper infobox. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:41, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

need proper infobox. I wish I had a method to spot them all at once. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

need proper infobox. All pages were inside Category:Populated places in São Paulo (state) -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:20, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Same for VP/MS. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Sports

and some similar pages use wikitable with class infobox. Maybe they need something better than this? I detected them because the have some unbalanced comment inside. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox tennis tournament

Hi, you recently updated this tennis template based on the outcome of a merge discussion. I made a correction to the country field which was pointing to the city field . The field 'Established' (data6) has the same function as 'Founded' (data5) so it can be removed. If a field is removed should the fields that follow after it be renumbered or not? Is it possible to do a check to see if there any instances of the template in use where the 'Established' field is filled (and the 'Founded' field is empty)? I'm pretty sure that 'Founded' is the standard field to indicate when a tournament had its inaugural edition but a safety check on the usage of the 'Established' field would be useful. The same applies to 'Location' (data8.1). To the best of my knowledge we only use the 'City' and 'Country' fields which means we could delete 'Location' (the separate field, not the label). --Wolbo (talk) 15:56, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

yes, I saw that you fixed the typo, thank you. will add a tracking category for both established and founded, and will check on the location/city/country issue. Frietjes (talk) 16:00, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
@Wolbo: added Category:Pages using infobox tennis tournament with both established and founded fields and Category:Pages using infobox tennis tournament with location field, but it will take some time for the cache catch up and the categories to fill (if there are any entries). Frietjes (talk) 16:12, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll keep an eye on those tracker pages. When converting a tournament template from 'Infobox WTA Tennis Tournament' to 'Infobox tennis tournament' I noticed that the fields 'website' and 'prize money' don't show because the field names are spelled differently (Web_site vs Website and Prize_money vs Prize money). Is there any way to automate or facilitate this conversion? --Wolbo (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
@Wolbo: can you provide an example? prize money should be no problem, but in some infoboxes web_site had a different usage. Frietjes (talk) 17:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
An example is Gastein Ladies. This is the version with the old 'Infobox WTA Tennis Tournament' template: Old. This is the version after the update to the 'Infobox tennis tournament' template: Update. Notice the missing 'Website' and 'Prize money' fields. And finally, the current version after I updated these two fields to match the generic tennis tournament template: Current. --Wolbo (talk) 14:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
The same issue applies to the 'Infobox ATP Tennis Tournament' template for men's tennis tournaments, see my two edits on Swiss Indoors.--Wolbo (talk) 14:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
@Wolbo: understood. I added the alternative syntax. by the way, it looks like founded/established are never used at the same time, but that location is used frequently. Frietjes (talk) 14:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Transcludesection

I noticed that

use something called "Transcludesection". Any idea if this is OK? Pages show on list with programming elements and I would like to avoid that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

replaced with lst in Amphetamine and removed from Cultus Lake, British Columbia, although lst has it's own issues. will see if it lasts. Frietjes (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
What exactly is the benefit of using the lst function over a template transclusion? It's not mentioned in WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION. The hatnote template {{transcluded-section}} is intended to inform users that they need to edit the transcluding article instead of the article they're viewing to edit the tagged section. I chose a hatnote over a banner like {{transcluded}} because that looks like a maintenance template instead of a section note.
Also, there was an issue with the lst transclusion, so I had to revert it. It was transcluding the vast majority of amphetamine to Adderall at some transclude point.Seppi333 (Insert 2¢ | Maintained) 05:59, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Seppi333 then something as to be changed in the code since the of condition refers to "Transcludesection" which does not exist and not to "transcluded-section". -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:46, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
@Seppi333: see the section directly below WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION which points to Help:Labeled section transclusion. Frietjes (talk) 14:02, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
@Frietjes: Ah, alright. Thanks for the link!
@Magioladitis: I'm not really sure I understand the issue; transcludedsection is just a parameter defined on amphetamine. The parameter name is completely arbitrary, but the parameter itself is just being used to indicate which section to display via the ifeq function.

Just to illustrate what I mean from User:Seppi333/transclusion, where I've replaced "transcludedsection" with "waffles" 

{{:User:Seppi333/transclusion|waffles=xyz}}

gives User:Seppi333/transclusion (as intended) 

{{:User:Seppi333/transclusion|waffles=123}}

gives User:Seppi333/transclusion (as intended) 

{{:User:Seppi333/transclusion|waffles=random}}

gives User:Seppi333/transclusion (nothing, since waffles=random wasn't defined)

Best, Seppi333 (Insert 2¢ | Maintained) 17:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
@Seppi333: I believe the issue is with using parserfunctions directly in the article (i.e., the '#ifeq:'), rather than encapsulating them in a template. Frietjes (talk) 17:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Oh. I suppose the most straightforward fix would be to move all the sections to a template page and transclude from there, though the use of parser functions in articles isn't mentioned as being an issue in WP:SELTRANS. On the contrary, it points out in WP:SELTRANS#Target document markup that it's possible to transclude from articles by appending ":" to the front of the template call (i.e. the case with transcluding from amphetamine with the parser function). Seppi333 (Insert 2¢ | Maintained) 17:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Sidebar with collapsible lists

Hello, Frietjes – Would you be able to assist here? Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:23, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Tables not correct end

There is this list of 3,000 pages with tables that do not correct end Misplaced Pages:CHECKWIKI/028 dump, usually because they contain some header template and not the corresponding footer template. I believe that you are interested in this kind of stuff. In some cases the missing footer template should be created. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)