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Archive 2 - 29 Jun 2006

Talk:A_Course_In_Miracles/Archive 1 May 17, 2004 (UTC) - November 12, 2005 (UTC)

Ste4k's actions

Ste4k has recently submitted deletion nominations for all of the following A Course in Miracles-related articles: Attitudinal healing, Helen Schucman, William Thetford, Foundation for Inner Peace, Foundation for A Course In Miracles, Community Miracles Center, Gary Renard, Kenneth Wapnick. And in the article Authorship of A Course in Miracles, Ste4k will not accept ANY websites as reliable sources with regard to ACIM, including http://www.acim.org/ and http://www.facim.org/, both of which are the official websites of California-based non-profit organizations. This editor's deletion attempts are merely asserted to be personal bias masquerading as adherence to Misplaced Pages policy. -- Andrew Parodi 08:12, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

He also attempted to delete the ACIM section on the forgiveness page. Please note that good intended edits are welcome. speet 12:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

These comments are both against good faith and harrassment. I'll say no more and be bringing this matter up to mediation. In the meantime I'd suggest that you find some credible sources for this book. Ste4k 05:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

And the last person to remove the section from forgiveness was me, since I agree absolutely that ACIM is of insufficient significance to justify its inclusion in that article. It discusses the major religions, minor sects have no place there. I have also edited the above comment to reduce it's unnecessarily combative tone. Please endeavour to remain WP:CIVIL even while disagreeing. Just zis Guy you know? 12:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Based on the information provided by the top comment and that both of these non-profit organizations bear the same trademark, they are at least a conglomeration or partnership and are also, as pointed out, the sole source of this book, which defines them, then, as self published resources. The information they provide can be used about the book, but do not provide any sort of notability for the book. Please read section 6.3 of the reliable sources guidelines which are used to establish verifiability. The specific information that these sources should supply is the data regarding the sales and distribution of the item, and also other third party neutral sources by which those figures can be verified. Ste4k 07:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

According to the first cited source, this book was written by hand by a psychologist while channeling "The Voice". The specific question which this article does not address and which all articles on books certainly should address is the name of the author of this book. Are the contents of this book the exact same as the original writings that took seven years to produce? Is there an objective third party reference that can verify this? Ste4k 07:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Unsourced

This article does not cite its references or sources. You can help Misplaced Pages by introducing appropriate citations. The tag on the article will help attract other editors to this page to remedy the problem. Please leave the maintenance tag so that others may be helpful. Thanks. Ste4k 11:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Also please note that the tag was added by an administrator on the basis that the entire article reads like original research. Analysis of the book and its alleged significance should be on the basis of reliable secondary sources. Misplaced Pages is not the place for book reviews, they can go on Wikinfo or another sister project. Please stick to facts which are stated in neutral terms from the mainstream press, well-known religious papers and so on. Just zis Guy you know? 12:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)