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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by The Epopt (talk | contribs) at 07:48, 2 March 2003 (thanks, Tannin, but I've got it under control). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Kudos for your work on the submarine articles. They are really shaping up! -- hajhouse

Second that! The Das Boot article is really good as well! :-) --Anders Törlind

The cabal stuff you added is not really correct. See .

Following up on "your" Saki article and "mine" on Kipling, is Saki's Not-So Stories intended as a parody of the latter's Just So Stories? The timing seems about right....--Paul Drye

I can't find any evidence one way or the other -- but it seems plausable....

Good article on the Magic Lantern, glad to see it here. I was wondering if one was up yet when i read about it yesterday.  :-) --Koyaanis Qatsi

Thanks!

Epopt, I like your work, but what you call nonsense often isn't. This is nonsense: slakh30r8tfjlk;g3u9fogur. Irrelevant, biased comments aren't nonsense. They're irrelevant, biased comments (see what I did with Tupac Shakur, taking the biased comments and making them more Wikipedic). If you delete stuff, it helps if you characterize the deleted material more specifically than "nonsense". At least that's how I see it. --TheCunctator

And as I see it, "2Pac was the greatest of all time, and continues to be. Fuck the government and all them niggaz who shot him down. Damn, they can't stand a nigga toppin the charts. Thug in Peace my nigga 'Pac." is nonsense and should be deleted -- or, better yet, replaced by a meaningful stub, which you did very well. Thank you.

It's certainly not nonsense under the meaning that it's impossible to understand. The sentiment and content of each sentence seems quite clear. It's certainly an emotional, personal, and slang-ridden message, but hardly nonsense. In fact, I used the tirades to build the article. The only reason I'm beating this dead horse is if you write "Deleted biased, slang-ridden tirade" I have a much better idea of what happened than "Deleted nonsense". If "nonsense" is, for the sake of editing, reserved for "asflg40g0k;fjh40r", it makes collaborative editing easier.

Epopt, I'm a little uncertain about the term you're using in the Dravidian race entry. Using the term "race" for an ethnic group of humans is shaky in just about all cases, but particularly in this one. From the given description, I can't see the Dravidians meeting any reasonable definition of "race".

Might it be better to move that entry to "Dravidian people" or "Dravidian ethnic group"?

Otherwise, great work on trying to sort out an entry belonging to the more messy and bias-ridden entries in the last few days. --Joakim Ziegler

Using "Dravidian ethnic group" or "Dravidian people" as the actual entry, and making "Dravidian race" a redirect seems quite reasonable to me. Redirects can be used to correct misconceptions, I'm more concerned that our actual entries are definitions that make sense. --Joakim Ziegler

Thanks, The Epopt! Finally I know why Tussionex makes me stop coughing and feel soooooo good! --MichaelTinkler, bronchitic.

I forgot to put a summary of my edit under gabbro, so decided I'd best leave you a note here: I went looking for the chemical formula for gabbro, to add to the article, and the first page I found was <http://www.geology.wisc.edu/~jill/gabbro.html>, which looks almost identical to what you've put here. What's the deal with copyright? Are you ~jill? --Vicki Rosenzweig

see talk:Gabbro

I am probably too late with this comment, but here it goes anyway: The "e" in, for example, 1e17 kg should be uppercase since the lowercase "e" stands for the base of the natural logarithm (~2.711828...). I assume what you mean by "1e17 kg" is "1 x 10 kg" (aka 1E17 kg or 1EE17 kg). However, what "1e17 kg" literally stands for is "1 x 2.71828... x 17 kg", which is obviously not what you intended. Like I said, it already seems to be too late since there appears to be a great many examples of this. --maveric149

Hello, sorry to bother you but I accidentally deleted the Hawkeye photo you uploaded. I was on the phone and dropped something on the mouse, and hit "Esc" but the command was already sent. Koyaanis Qatsi, Tuesday, June 11, 2002

That's sounds like it would have been fun to watch. Was there a cat involved? --the Epopt

Eh, no. Just distraction because of the nature of the conversation and my general clumsiness. Thanks for reuploading.  :-) Koyaanis Qatsi

Hey Epopt, you?re a sysop now and don?t have to move articles the hard way anymore. All you have to do is click on ?Move this page? which is just under ?delete this page? and follow the on-screen instructions. This feature moves the history (well, at least most of it) and creates a redirect for you automatically. It is probably best that we use this feature whenever we can instead of the old way ? a couple of newbies have gotten rather pissed after a couple of these moves because doing things the old way ?erases? their contributions. --maveric149, Friday, June 14, 2002

D'oh! --the Epopt

No problem. I had moved a several dozen articles before finding out the easy way. Hey, this "mostly harmless" guy is becoming annoying. --maveric149

He has been rendered completely harmless -- I banned him. I'll remove the ban in an hour or so. He wants a war?--The Epopt

I would have given the guy one more chance -- but I'm a push-over. An hour ban won't harm him. --maveric149

Hello again. It looks like your contribs link is broken in the same way mine is -- there is a case-sensitive bug in the software that prevents user names beginning with a lower-case letter to display "contributions of...". In this case the software is trying to list the "Contributions of The Epopt" instead of "Contributions of the Epopt". Anyway, here is the corrected link. I've placed a corrected link to my contributions at the top of my user page, you might want to do the same so that people can recognize the work you've done. This is probably a bit more important now that you are a sysop than it was before, but it is totally up to you what to do and this still isn't that important at all (just delete this message if you like the fact that people don't know). --maveric149, Sunday, June 16, 2002

Important note for all sysops: There is a bug in the administrative move feature that truncates the moved history and changes the edit times. Please do not use this feature until this bug is fixed. More information can be found in the talk of Brion VIBBER and maveric149. Thank you. --maveric149

Where did you get all the interesting info for the U-boat articles? You are creating these so fast I doubt a mere mortal could create these from scratch so fast. But then most people are faster than me at many things. :) --maveric149

I'm so happy I could eat a small force-fattened bird whole!Ortolan88

I find it hard to believe that all these countries from which the link has been removed would have no transnational issues. At least PNG has had problems with Indonesia on its western border, and Sierra Leone has had difficulties with its neighbours in connection with its own civil wars. Eclecticology, Saturday, July 13, 2002

Nonetheless, the transnational pages for those countries stated that they had no transnational issues. I see no point in keeping pages that state that they have nothing to say. --the Epopt

Those pages came from the CIA World Factbook, which may or may not have had its facts straight, as it were. What did you do with them? Redirect them? Koyaanis Qatsi

The CIA may be considered by some as an oxymoron. The transnational links were no doubt put on nation pages as teasers to encourage other Wikipedians to fill nsomething in. One would hope that our contributors would not limit their sources for this information to the CIA!! I'm always willing to pass the ball when my knowledge or time for a subject has reached its limits. Eclecticology, Sunday, July 14, 2002

I combined the all the information on the Transnational Issues pages with their parent pages, and deleted the subpages. If you feel that blank subpages should be part of the Misplaced Pages, then by all means recreate them. They were all identical to Sao Tome and Principe/Transnational issues except for the name of the country.

Hi there- Vegan Reich definatelty existed- I have a CD by them- the lyrics are unintentionally hilarious...

Cheers quercus robur

Want to tell me what the big idea was with Canadian culture? --an irritated montréalais

Not really, but I suppose I must. The big idea was what is sometimes known as a joke. One may question whether or not a joke that goes unnoticed for over six months (February 25 to September 3) is a very good joke, and, similarly, one may question whether or not it is anything to get worked up over. You will note that its predecessor was not exactly brilliant prose.

Yea, my culture's been called an oxymoron. I'm rollin' in the aisles over here.

I live in Los Angeles, the place Raymond Chandler described as "a big, hard-boiled city with no more personality than a paper cup." Your turn!

The difference is that I don't think Mr. Chandler was editing an encyclopedia.

illiterate apostrophes? Hey, fuck you too. :)

Thanks for fixing it up though.

--Eco

If your apostrophes can read, they're smarter than my apostrophes. You're welcome. --the Epopt

Please check "Pages that link here" before deleting a page. Bennelong is linked to from John Howard, who is a representative from there. -phma

I apologize -- I will certainly check in the future. --The Epopt

Thanks for the corrections made on the F/A-22 Raptor. I'll be more careful in the future (for now the only excuse I have is lack of sleep and excitement :). Ppetru

Undocumented in Misplaced Pages: Unterseeboot 19 landed Sir Roger Casement in Ireland. Ortolan88

Unacceptable!  ;->

Why did you move calibre to caliber? I thought Wiki has a policy of accepting an article in whichever version of english it is written. For hundreds of millions of english speakers, (British-English, Hiberno-English, etc) Calibre IS the correct spelling. Only American English uses Caliber. (Europeans often joke about 'American gun-culture' - I've often wondered, surely linking culture to guns is a contradiction in terms!!! - but does that extend to changing articles on guns to American-English spellings? I'm joking by the way. Please don't take offence like so many Americans do when the rest of the world expresses bewilderment at its gun laws! One American friend of mine couldn't comprehend the fact that Irish and British police don't carry guns, or that 95% of Irish and British people have never even seen a gun. He had his first in LA aged 11!!! JTD 18:59 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)

I didn't move anything -- I simply created a redirect at calibre pointing to the already-existing article at caliber.

And I don't take offence at your not understanding our affection for guns. We citizens have always been willing to loan you subjects guns when you realize you need them, and I have plenty to spare. ;-> --the Epopt

Say, where are you getting all the good navy ship info? (Presumably you're not working from memory :-) ). Stan Shebs 23:55 Feb 17, 2003 (UTC)

I have lots of books, but my Web sources include:

• for USSs: the public domain Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, which is online in many different forms (try http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/) and the Navy List (at http://www.nvr.navy.mil/).
• for HMSs: "Ships of the Old Navy" (at http://www.cronab.demon.co.uk/INTRO.HTM) -- the owner of that site has given the Misplaced Pages permission to use his material without restriction -- and the Royal Navy's site (at http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/). But be careful with that latter: a "Crown copyright" is not a restrictive as a human being's copyright, but it isn't public domain.
• for U-booten: everything you ever wanted to know can be found at uboat.net (at, oddly enough, http://www.uboat.net). That site is fully protected by copyright, so everything has to be rewritten.

Thanks! Fortunately the Royal Navy site has so little historical info that there's no temptation to copy :-), although it did give me the interesting little bit about "Pickle Night". Stan Shebs 02:23 Feb 18, 2003 (UTC)

I like how USS Texas and its sub-articles are shaping up! But I have a question - should the hull type and number have a hyphen joining them or not? I see no hyphens on official Navy pages, not even on pages referring to old ships, but they are ubiquitous in DANFS, which suggests a policy change in recent years. Do you know the story? Stan Shebs 04:08 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

I was wondering how long it would take someone to ask that question. There seems to be no consistency anywhere -- chinfo.navy.mil sometimes uses a space, sometimes a hyphen, sometimes both on the same page! I've been using a hyphen (as you can tell) only because I think it looks best. --the Epopt

My God, I can't cope - there's no regulation? No "Norfolk Manual of Style"? :-) I bet there is a rule, just need to find it. It's going to matter a little, because the choice leaks into article titles thus affecting search results (though not Google's I suppose). Stan Shebs 05:27 Feb 25, 2003 (UTC)

BTW, check out the discussion Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) that I semi-inadvertantly instigated. It looks likely that it won't be necessary to transform all the dates from DANFS, and I've started just bracketing the day-month refs unchanged in the expectation that they'll point to something soon. Stan 00:55 Feb 26, 2003 (UTC)

OK, OK, we get the idea! You can mark all the rest of them as "minor" now, so that Recent Changes remains useful. :) Tannin (By the way, if you want a hand with doing some of them, sing out. I'd be happy to help.)

I appreciate the offer, but now that I've debugged myself, I seem to be averaging a very smooth rate of one per five seconds.  ;-> --the Epopt