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Adding interwiki links

I've been adding a lot of interwiki links here, and it doesn't seem to work quite right. Going into the link dialogue and entering :it:Livio Garzanti doesn't generate ] as I would expect; it generates ] which plays hell with the display. Is there a way to do this in VE? Not sure this is really a bug if it's not intended to work yet. However, I should point out that it does actually work in editing mode; it only loses the lead colon when you save. Up to that point you can click on the created link in edit mode, and get sent to the Italian page. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Mike, I'm not sure if this is a bug or a (mis)feature. In the meantime, if you link to ], then it should give you the link that you wanted. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:44, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

It's a bug, and the bug report reportedly exists, but I haven't found it yet. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Insertion of unformated Text

It would be great if formated copied Text would be insertet unformated. Thanks --31.16.248.200 (talk) 10:20, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Try CTRL-SHIFT-V when you paste. It usually works for me. Kerry (talk) 11:02, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

They're making a change so that if you copy one line (e.g., a headline from a news source), then it will be unformatted, but if you copy multiple lines, then some formatting will be preserved. This may reduce some of the problems (but will probably annoy people who want to copy pre-formatted bibliographic citations and retain all of the traditional formatting). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Can you make my page

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Bollualawer12/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template%3AUser+sandbox%2Fpreload

Bollualawer12 (talk) 16:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Bollualawer12, if you have a technical problem, then I'd like to know more about what happened. Just click "Edit section" next to your question and tell me what happened.

If you need general help with figuring out what to write, then you might want to ask for help at the Misplaced Pages:Teahouse. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I want to be able to copy this and put it on my power point

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Mandible&action=edit

66.44.195.43 (talk) 22:33, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Which part do you want to be able to copy? If it's an image, then don't try to edit the page; just read it. Look at the caption for the image, where you'll find a tiny icon of two overlapping boxes. Click that to reach a page where you can download it. (If that icon isn't present, then control-click or Command-click the image to open it in a new tab.) Many images on that page are public domain, but some are still protected by copyright. You may want to read c:Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. More images are available at c:Category:Human anatomy, mandible. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:31, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Text alignment and other options in VisualEditor - Suggestion

It would be optimal if there was stronger text formatting / customization options in the VisualEditor, such as the ability to align text (left, right, centered, justified). Supporting simple edits in the VisualEditor such as text alignment are important so the contributor can see the "finished product" while the formatting is applied. As a new contributor, the VisualEditor is much more tangible than editing in Source Code, so polishing the VisualEditor to include more abilities would make editing even better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAnonymousNerd (talk • contribs) 04:49, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

In general in Misplaced Pages, we only use left aligned text. Slight exceptions exist for tables, but table structure is not edited very much, so it's a bit lower priority. Thank you for your feedback —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

templates and bullet lists - everything looks OK visually in the VE but the source produced is not good

Kerry (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kerry,

It's possible; it's just not intuitive. You have to first create blank lines (e.g., place your cursor at the end of the word "links" in the ==External links== section heading), drag the template into those blank lines, and then remove the extra blank lines.

There's a bug about doing it properly, but I don't think it will be fixed very soon. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

It's not a probably creating a new article as I put in the External links heading, add the commons template, and then add the bullet list of external links. The problem occurs more when working with an existing article. It is one of those situations of when it looks right in the VE but isn't right and can't be fixed in the VE, meaning it increases the risk of being reverted or of reinforcing the perception that the VE is an "extra burden on the community". Kerry (talk) 03:14, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

how to make your own title

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Soraya_O%27Sullivan?action=edit

Soraya O'Sullivan (talk) 03:41, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Soraya O'Sullivan, I'm not sure whether you want a new username or to WP:MOVE an article to a new title. You might want to ask this question at the WP:Teahouse for new editors. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:48, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Shift is somehow being left tab and shift at the same time

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URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard?action=edit&section=4#Conflict_of_Interest_regarding_User%253ABomberswarm2

Endercase (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Endercase, I want to hear more about this. What exactly happened, and does it happen every time? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:49, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey, sorry I didn't see your first tag for some reason. It happens kinda randomly. Usually, after I interact with hyperlinks or edit something I had already written in the same session. Also, the amount of space the cursor moves seems to be random but it is always backward (left tab is inaccurate as it skips through text). I will attempt better documentation next time. What would you like me to record? Endercase (talk) 23:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

looks like a variation of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156228 (timeshifter bug) Endercase (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

It is also worth noting that after the bug has been "activated" shift will always return to the same location (I think) but allow you to type in that location. I will test right shift next time as well. Endercase (talk) 00:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Cursor jumping

Ed  08:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for not including steps here. If it's a known problem, I'll leave it alone; if not, I'll try to reproduce it in the next few days. Ed  08:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Maybe it's this: /Archive 2016 1#Page jump issue? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 10:00, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

I think it's Timeshifter's bug. I'm sorry that it hasn't been fixed yet. It's apparently more complicated than it looks – perhaps an intermittent thing?

Ed, I believe that a set of reliable reproduction steps would be very much appreciated. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:47, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): If I'm remembering the circumstances right, I think it's what Ugog Nizdast is you are describing. I'll try to reproduce this asap. Ed  04:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC) Fixed, sorry. It's the shift key that does it.

Check that, I can reproduce it right now. Hitting "shift" in the sentence beginning "Historians William H. Garzke and Robert O. Dulin ..." over at Design A-150 battleship does it. Same setup as above, Chrome on Windows 10. Happens on Firefox too. Rather hard to edit sentences when I can't use the shift key. ;-) Ed  05:01, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm testing it on other articles like George W. Hooker, United States Navy, Nicolai Wammen, Khin Yu May, North Carolina-class battleship, and several other random articles; the cursor moves every time I click somewhere and hit "shift." Ed  05:07, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Ed, where does the cursor end up? (Start of the line, start of the article, apparently random...) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:48, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): It seems to jump back to the last wikilink, citation, or paragraph beginning, in that order. It never jumps up to a new para. Ed  09:12, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Is it possible to enable the VisualEditor for some templates?

Some templates consist of tables which however can't be edited with the VisualEditor because only source editing is allowed. Is there a way to enable the VisualEditor at least on some templates? Examples:

• Template:AM4 chipsets
• Template:AMD APU features
• Template:AMD GPU features
• Template:AMD Radeon Instinct
• Template:AMD Radeon Pro (Mobile)
• Template:AMD Radeon Pro WX x100
• Template:AMD Radeon Rx 400
• Template:AMD Ryzen

• Draft:Tick-Tock model/main roadmap
• Draft:Tick-Tock model/Atom roadmap

The latter two were meant to be templates, but since the VisualEditor doesn't work in template space, I first moved the newly created templates into article space, which then promptly got moved to draft space by someone else. The move into draft space then broke the main articles which transcluded the templates in article space, because moves to draft space don't have redirects, leading to wrong accusations in the edit history of the main articles. (People thought the templates simply weren't there, as they couldn't see them due to the missing redirects.)

The reason I'd like to use a template for these two tables is that they are used in two articles. Editors of the articles have been debating a move of the tables to only one article for years, and any attempts to go forward with such a move have always been reverted. So anyone working on these tables has to sync the changes in both articles manually. --Pizzahut2 (talk) 14:34, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Short answer: No.

Long answer: VisualEditor's visual mode can only be enabled in entire namespaces (all the templates, not just this one), so this isn't technically possible.

However, there's a relatively simple workaround: Put them in the Template: namespace, and use them normally. Whenever you want to edit one of these templates, then open the template page, copy (not cut) the entire contents to your own /sandbox (in userspace), and edit them there. When you're done, save your changes to your sandbox. Then open your sandbox in source mode (or open it in visual mode, and click the button near the Save button to switch to the wikitext source moe), copy the entire contents of your sandbox, and paste it back into the actual template. This approach has a second benefit: if you discover a mistake right after you save the page (which happens to me all the time :-), then you can fix it before it goes 'live' in the real template. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Project pages - where does one ask for these to be VE-enabled

I am now in my 2nd situation of working on a Project page with VE users. Currently project pages are not enabled for VE users so you have to think of a workaround. What I am doing is to put a REDIRECT from the Project page into a user subpage (as VE is enabled for User pages), e.g. Misplaced Pages:GLAM/State Library of Queensland/QWiki Club. It's quite ugly as it is visible what I am doing, but I don't see what else I can do. Kerry (talk) 03:18, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Aadditional s.p amrat

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यूआरएल: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Additional_S.P_amrat_meena&action=edit&redlink=1

Devendr meena (talk) 04:48, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

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