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Misplaced Pages guidelines are clear that contested copy (around tone, neutrality, etc.) should be taken up piecemeal and altered or improved if necessary but is not to be deleted en masse. Upon seeking higher Misplaced Pages Admin support to point out these infractions I was met instead with stalwart edit values and "good faith" suppositions, all of which were seemingly irrelevant as I could not "talk" with the original editors who deleted passages, when I visited their talk page I found no sign of activity. Also I am relatively new and did not even know how to find the talk page for CC until further along, despite best efforts to respond....Most recently my wife did chime in on my behalf, but this was out of her own insistence and not my bidding. Seems unfair to be further penalized for this, just trying to clarify a position that seems to be going unrecognized, or overlooked, or ignored... As for my Mediararus account I was up front with this from the beginning, it is connected to my first and forgotten account with Misplaced Pages, never used, but I logged in unknowingly with this account as I was logged in via gmail and then did not recognize the different User account until after a few edits. Not sock-puppeting! Never used this account before or since, you will see. And the account is linked to me and not to a made up profile. No intention of sabotage or hiding my profile at all. I don't appreciate the suggestions from editors which suggest otherwise--like a pack of wolves jumping on me, to conclusions... For what its worth, I've brought this matter to the attention of other media, taking an interest in this story, as it appears to others and not just me that this is was a case of political interference, ie. there is an agenda to clear the "controversies" section from Christy Clark's Misplaced Pages page, timely as it is, during her election campaign... I am still hoping that some reasonable Administrator might intervene here and take a good look at the history on the page--see who deleted what and how, when...verify for yourself if the copy is legitimate, well-cited, etc and if there is problem with tone/neutrality then raise in talk and let's discuss but PLEASE can we not see that outright deletion of verifiable content is not okay and suspicious--ie. not in good faith ??

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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=This entire warring scenario began when unidentifiable editors began deleting entire passages of my copy from politician Christy Clark's page under the heading of "controversies" and it so happens that the timing of these deletions aligned with the beginning of said politician's election campaign, toward reelection as Premier of British Columbia. I believe that a careful study of the copy and references will show that the copy is legitimate, and that the copy is situated correctly on the page, under "Controversies", and that the copy does reference a host of legitimate and verifiable issues pertaining to the history and performance of said politician. Misplaced Pages guidelines are clear that contested copy (around tone, neutrality, etc.) should be taken up piecemeal and altered or improved if necessary but is not to be deleted en masse. Upon seeking higher Misplaced Pages Admin support to point out these infractions I was met instead with stalwart edit values and "good faith" suppositions, all of which were seemingly irrelevant as I could not "talk" with the original editors who deleted passages, when I visited their talk page I found no sign of activity. Also I am relatively new and did not even know how to find the talk page for CC until further along, despite best efforts to respond....Most recently my wife did chime in on my behalf, but this was out of her own insistence and not my bidding. Seems unfair to be further penalized for this, just trying to clarify a position that seems to be going unrecognized, or overlooked, or ignored... As for my Mediararus account I was up front with this from the beginning, it is connected to my first and forgotten account with Misplaced Pages, never used, but I logged in unknowingly with this account as I was logged in via gmail and then did not recognize the different User account until after a few edits. Not sock-puppeting! Never used this account before or since, you will see. And the account is linked to me and not to a made up profile. No intention of sabotage or hiding my profile at all. I don't appreciate the suggestions from editors which suggest otherwise--like a pack of wolves jumping on me, to conclusions... For what its worth, I've brought this matter to the attention of other media, taking an interest in this story, as it appears to others and not just me that this is was a case of political interference, ie. there is an agenda to clear the "controversies" section from Christy Clark's Misplaced Pages page, timely as it is, during her election campaign... I am still hoping that some reasonable Administrator might intervene here and take a good look at the history on the page--see who deleted what and how, when...verify for yourself if the copy is legitimate, well-cited, etc and if there is problem with tone/neutrality then raise in talk and let's discuss but PLEASE can we not see that outright deletion of verifiable content is not okay and suspicious--ie. not in good faith ?? ] (]) 17:46, 18 April 2017 (UTC) |3 = ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=This entire warring scenario began when unidentifiable editors began deleting entire passages of my copy from politician Christy Clark's page under the heading of "controversies" and it so happens that the timing of these deletions aligned with the beginning of said politician's election campaign, toward reelection as Premier of British Columbia. I believe that a careful study of the copy and references will show that the copy is legitimate, and that the copy is situated correctly on the page, under "Controversies", and that the copy does reference a host of legitimate and verifiable issues pertaining to the history and performance of said politician. Misplaced Pages guidelines are clear that contested copy (around tone, neutrality, etc.) should be taken up piecemeal and altered or improved if necessary but is not to be deleted en masse. Upon seeking higher Misplaced Pages Admin support to point out these infractions I was met instead with stalwart edit values and "good faith" suppositions, all of which were seemingly irrelevant as I could not "talk" with the original editors who deleted passages, when I visited their talk page I found no sign of activity. Also I am relatively new and did not even know how to find the talk page for CC until further along, despite best efforts to respond....Most recently my wife did chime in on my behalf, but this was out of her own insistence and not my bidding. Seems unfair to be further penalized for this, just trying to clarify a position that seems to be going unrecognized, or overlooked, or ignored... As for my Mediararus account I was up front with this from the beginning, it is connected to my first and forgotten account with Misplaced Pages, never used, but I logged in unknowingly with this account as I was logged in via gmail and then did not recognize the different User account until after a few edits. Not sock-puppeting! Never used this account before or since, you will see. And the account is linked to me and not to a made up profile. No intention of sabotage or hiding my profile at all. I don't appreciate the suggestions from editors which suggest otherwise--like a pack of wolves jumping on me, to conclusions... For what its worth, I've brought this matter to the attention of other media, taking an interest in this story, as it appears to others and not just me that this is was a case of political interference, ie. there is an agenda to clear the "controversies" section from Christy Clark's Misplaced Pages page, timely as it is, during her election campaign... I am still hoping that some reasonable Administrator might intervene here and take a good look at the history on the page--see who deleted what and how, when...verify for yourself if the copy is legitimate, well-cited, etc and if there is problem with tone/neutrality then raise in talk and let's discuss but PLEASE can we not see that outright deletion of verifiable content is not okay and suspicious--ie. not in good faith ?? ] (]) 17:46, 18 April 2017 (UTC) |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=This entire warring scenario began when unidentifiable editors began deleting entire passages of my copy from politician Christy Clark's page under the heading of "controversies" and it so happens that the timing of these deletions aligned with the beginning of said politician's election campaign, toward reelection as Premier of British Columbia. I believe that a careful study of the copy and references will show that the copy is legitimate, and that the copy is situated correctly on the page, under "Controversies", and that the copy does reference a host of legitimate and verifiable issues pertaining to the history and performance of said politician. Misplaced Pages guidelines are clear that contested copy (around tone, neutrality, etc.) should be taken up piecemeal and altered or improved if necessary but is not to be deleted en masse. Upon seeking higher Misplaced Pages Admin support to point out these infractions I was met instead with stalwart edit values and "good faith" suppositions, all of which were seemingly irrelevant as I could not "talk" with the original editors who deleted passages, when I visited their talk page I found no sign of activity. Also I am relatively new and did not even know how to find the talk page for CC until further along, despite best efforts to respond....Most recently my wife did chime in on my behalf, but this was out of her own insistence and not my bidding. Seems unfair to be further penalized for this, just trying to clarify a position that seems to be going unrecognized, or overlooked, or ignored... As for my Mediararus account I was up front with this from the beginning, it is connected to my first and forgotten account with Misplaced Pages, never used, but I logged in unknowingly with this account as I was logged in via gmail and then did not recognize the different User account until after a few edits. Not sock-puppeting! Never used this account before or since, you will see. And the account is linked to me and not to a made up profile. No intention of sabotage or hiding my profile at all. I don't appreciate the suggestions from editors which suggest otherwise--like a pack of wolves jumping on me, to conclusions... For what its worth, I've brought this matter to the attention of other media, taking an interest in this story, as it appears to others and not just me that this is was a case of political interference, ie. there is an agenda to clear the "controversies" section from Christy Clark's Misplaced Pages page, timely as it is, during her election campaign... I am still hoping that some reasonable Administrator might intervene here and take a good look at the history on the page--see who deleted what and how, when...verify for yourself if the copy is legitimate, well-cited, etc and if there is problem with tone/neutrality then raise in talk and let's discuss but PLEASE can we not see that outright deletion of verifiable content is not okay and suspicious--ie. not in good faith ?? ] (]) 17:46, 18 April 2017 (UTC) |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

Take a look, for instance, at Marvello123 below, visit the talk page, and tell me if this is a legitimate editor?

This is a discretionary sanctions block and as such this appeal needs to be copied to WP:AE. I will do this but in light of the above, recommend that you be topic banned from all WP:BLP articles. Do you want to proceed with the appeal? --NeilN 17:54, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

• @Theadjuster: I've edited the article in question, so I'm too involved to review your block (and as NeilN says, it's an AE block anyway), but I can still comment on it and make some suggestions. Firstly, you will not get yourself unblocked by attacking those who disagreed with you. Secondly, don't you think it's a little disingenuous to say "it so happens that the timing of these deletions aligned with the beginning of said politician's election campaign", when your construction of that huge list of controversies coincided with the beginning of that campaign in the first place? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

I am not attacking anyone. I am suggesting there might be political interference. Please explain to me: The controversies exist, and are on the record. So how is it wrong for these controversies to be recorded, on the record, under a "Controversies" section? On the other hand, to delete this copy is an infraction of Misplaced Pages guidelines, no? Why is there not a discussion about tone/neutrality instead? When MelbourneStar raised specific issues, I attended to them immediately. Somehow this "good faith" is overlooked? I really do not appreciate the sentiments coming from Boing! said Zebedee who acts as though there can be no power imbalance in the world and transfers such Oz-like fantasies to a role of editing this OPEN SOURCE record. Now deleting also the verifiable "controversies" on Rich Coleman's page. At this rate, you'll have all scandals and corruption tidily wiped clean from all accounts everywhere. Nice work.

I call for an independent Admin to review my case and to read my Unblock request above. I feel as if I am currently being treated unfairly by a cabal of limited-minded editors. Sorry to say, but for the record, that's that. Theadjuster (talk) 18:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

It's in WP:BLP policy, and WP:UNDUE. Articles about living people should not be slanted to overwhelmingly concentrate on negative material (in this case effectively turning the Christy Clark and Rich Coleman articles into political hit pieces). Also, the same policy says that contested BLP material can be removed by anyone, so it is not an infraction of any Misplaced Pages guideline to do so, and the onus is then on whoever wants to add it to discuss it on the article talk page and seek consensus. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:18, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and you say you're not attacking anyone but you go on to call those who contest your additions as "a cabal of limited-minded editors"? I suggest you be very careful what you say next, as continuing attacks like that is likely to lose you the ability to edit this talk page too. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:23, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

I am copying your appeal to WP:AE. --NeilN 18:19, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

April 2017

Hello, I'm Marvello123. Misplaced Pages is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Christy Clark seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Marvello123 (talk) 11:27, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Christy Clark. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Misplaced Pages's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. The content, the tone -- even the format (ie. headings) -- does not appear to be of neutral point of view. Your edits have been disputed: discuss them on the article's talk page, and gain consensus before adding such controversial information back in. I'll remind you, extra discretion and care must be taken as the article is of a biography of a living person. —MelbourneStar☆ 07:47, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Some of the material was copied directly from the New York Times website, and thus was a copyright violation. Please don't add copyright material to this wiki. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:53, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Christy Clark. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Misplaced Pages this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Misplaced Pages is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. /wiae /tlk 18:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

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April 2017

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• Misplaced Pages's WP:BLP policy trumps pretty much all other policies about improving article text etc, and when article content is removed as a possible violation of that policy, it's no good demanding that it be reinstated and making accusations against those who removed it - and you certainly should not be editing logged out to evade your block or by getting someone else to do it for you. The only way you would be allowed to reinstate any of the removed content would be to get a prior consensus in support of it by discussion on the article's talk page. First, you need to either sit out your block or make a convincing case for being unblocked (as directed in the block message). Then you would need to start that discussion that I mentioned and wait for an uninvolved editor to judge the consensus. But the way you are going, I have to say, is more likely to get you a topic ban from these articles. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

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