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LaBeouf's Arrest

I didn't mean to offend anyone as you're all far better editors than myself but I wanted to be firm in letting people know about the drunk driving laws in CA as they apply to this case. Anyone who refuses a breathalyzer examination in the state of California will be arrested for misdemeanor drunk driving and their driver's license will be suspended for one year. No other evidence is important. Refusing a breathalyzer is the direct cause. LaBeouf was not singled out and this is not uncommon. It is procedure for police to collect the license at the scene. Thanks.The Red Queen (talk) 21:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for rewording the sentence! liquidluck✽talk 22:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Name

The current reference no. 11 about the origins of his name leads to TCMDb, but this is probably a bad source. The explanation given there is the nonsensical "His name "Shia" (which rhymes with "hiya") is Yiddish and French. It means "Thank God for the beef". --Pbn-dk (talk) 10:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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Name LaBeouf

If this last name is of French heritage, then it is a corruption of Le Boeuf, which would explain its American pronunciation. Otherwise if you insist of LaBeouf, it should be pronounced differently La Be OOF. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcangas (talk • contribs) 23:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

OR... it doesn't matter how you think his name should be pronounced or even what is technically the correct way to pronounce his name; all that matters is how the actor himself pronounces/spells it.72.89.142.185 (talk) 04:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

That's interesting, so everyone can pronounce their name as they wish, whatever their whim is... We should also spell any word as we feel like it... Is that the spirit? So I will write my name KKKKK and pronounce it Smith, what the heck..., why not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcangas (talk • contribs) 03:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

His name is misspelled, plain and simple. In all likelihood the corruptions stems from his ancestors forgetting the French language. It's like someone named Carpenter who spelled their name Carpnetnre, or a Gonzales who spelled it Gnozlaes. The correct spelling is LeBoeuf - LaBoeuf would also technically be wrong, but at least not as embarrassing as LaBeouf. 24.202.228.66 (talk) 21:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

More technically, Le Bœuf. Is this guy so bad at French that he can't even spell his own name, or is he just trying to be creatively funny? I believe Walter Mondale was looking for him at one time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.238.166.72 (talk) 17:51, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Reminds me of one of those "things children say" TV programmes, in which a girl was reading from some text including the phrase "the Grand Prix" - "the grand pricks..." she said. She was corrected by an adult but replied, "It may be 'grahn pree' but it says 'grand pricks' here !" 80.189.176.196 (talk) 12:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Little Hamlet!

His vita seems real a little weird. May be he likes to tell fancies in ouerdays, like he does as a kid. Are there some contingent informations possible? He impresses as "Jake" the peacefull agent for investingation questions in the film "Wallstreet II". So he is reminding on hamlet ! His privat troubles are in opposite to this appearance. Well done! Jack is stuck!--Raskollnika (talk) 13:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Heritage

His mother is of Russian Jewish origin. http://www.talktalk.co.uk/entertainment/film/biography/artist/shia-labeouf/biography/170 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.234.142.157 (talk) 22:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Name pronounced: "SHY-uh luh-BUHF"

Here is a sourced pronunciation (American Standard English) in case any regular editor here wants to match it to Misplaced Pages:Pronunciation_respelling_key. Source: People (magazine), April 11, 2011, page 32, Time, Inc., "Say What??: Scoop's handy pronunciation guide to today's tricky celebrity names." Shia Labeouf's name is written as "SHY-uh luh-BUHF." 5Q5 (talk) 15:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

LaB...WhatIsThis?

It's the first time I see capital letter between small letters! Please, can anyOne tell me why's that? --Περίεργος (talk) 13:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

And what's about "McCartney"? Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I really don't know. What kind of grammatical phainomenon is this? Where's the coresponding article? I 'm not a native english or french speaker, so I don't know where to search about that. --Περίεργος (talk) 08:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

It's called camelCase or "medial capitals". As LaBeouf is the Anglicization of a French name, the "La" is likely the remnants of a linguistic particle. Chickenmonkey 09:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

ThankYou:)--Περίεργος (talk) 21:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Chickenmonkey 21:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused by the claim that the word LaBeouf is an "Anglicization" of the French name LaBoeuf. In what way is the first word more English or "Anglicized" than the second word?

Filmography table

Something is wrong with the tables in the filmography section that is messing the page up from that point down. I can't find what it is but can someone fix it. Dylan (talk) 00:46, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Fixed Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Possible material

Shia insolence! Transformers star LaBeouf 'spits water over shock rocker Marilyn Manson'

Cannibalism.

Shia LaBeouf is an alleged cannibal, according to tumblr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.161.63 (talk) 22:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

And tumblr is a reliable source or tumblr users are so stupid to continue disrupting Misplaced Pages? Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 22:24, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

And here I pressed on this new message thinking he'd been eaten. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:33, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

So, just to be clear, Shia LaBeouf is not a cannibal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.187.241.209 (talk) 00:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

No, he is not, it is just an internet meme. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

But has he himself been the subject (object?) of cannibalism? That is the internet meme I am trying to pursue, if one does not already happen to exist. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

It is just a song that somebody created. You can Google "Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeouf" and see them at YouTube. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:06, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm just messing with you. When you hear "Shia LaBeouf" and "cannibalism" in the same sentence, it's hard not to pursue that angle. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 15:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, is the song about his alleged cannibalism notable, however? 76.123.2.124 (talk) 21:22, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Two years later, it's become notable enough for a Time article and a Washington Post interview, among other sources. He's not a cannibal, nor is there any verifiable source that he has ever personally experienced cannibalism. He has taken the song (and now video) in good humor, apparently.Winged Cat (talk) 18:06, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Is this the Rob Cantor of Tally Hall? If so, the article should probably say so, since Cantor is apparently not notable enough by himself to warrant an article here (leading the reader to wonder if his song and SL's reaction to it are notable, despite the refs). Dwpaul 18:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Done Indeed, that is the one. I have added that note.Winged Cat (talk) 20:50, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

If the prosecutors in the US with the same busy as in Brussels ?91.183.118.112 (talk) 13:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

The picture on wikipedia

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Change the picture because LaBeouf does not look formal in this picture. A better picture is needed. A suggested replacement would be "http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/People/S/Shia_LaBeouf/shia_labeouf_04.jpg"

Thank you in advance.

Donanurag (talk) 23:30, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

N Not done and not likely to be done. That picture is not free. We would need a free image to change it. gwickwire | Leave a message 23:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Citation needed

Do we not need some evidence that the critically panned fourth Indian Jones "film was a critical and commercial success." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.171.40 (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Check the film's reception. It wasn't "critically panned". Take Rotten Tomatoes: while the public gives it 59%, the critics give it 78%. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 10:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion; more details about quote origin

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In the Religion section, maybe change "LaBeouf has stated that he has a " to "In 2004, LaBeouf contributed an essay to the book I Am Jewish by Judea Pearl, in which LaBeouf stated that he has a ". Adding the year may better put the quote in perspective. He wrote that when he was eighteen or seventeen (a minor); he was young. Three or so years after that he stated: "I had a bar mitzvah and was baptized eligion never made sense to me." He is currently twenty-seven. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 11:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Done. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 08:48, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

HowardCantour.com - Short film directed by Shia Starring Jim Gaffigan

Sources: deadline, buzzfeed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.17.123 (talk) 02:47, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Shia certainly admitted to script theft, but it's a common practice in Hollywood: Steven Spielberg is a big script thief ("Amistad" for instance was stolen) and James Cameron is a script thief. Such films as "Shakespeare In Love", "Driving Miss Daisy", "Jingle All the Way", "The Terminator", etc., etc. were all stolen. So Shia stole in a world where stealing another person's writing is considered a joke. 50.202.81.2 (talk) 17:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

He has personally confessed and apologized over twitter and it has been widely reported in reputable non-gossip sources like USA Today and Time so it seems notable and well-cited enough to appear in a page about a living person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.155.198 (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

He even plagiarized his opening tweet and here is the original source. 68.45.110.5 (talk) 21:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

I've cleaned up that section a little for the sources and just for flow in general. I've included one of his quotes from the Bleeding Cool interview, as I don't know how to exactly paraphrase it without possibly getting it wrong. I think I know where he's trying to go with that (even though I don't agree) but I think it's something that could be interpreted in a lot of ways. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:33, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

"Religion"

How can anyone who has the ability to read and comprehend not notice the contradiction in the "Religion" section? I know that this page is edited often which indicates I'm an idiot, unless someone confutes my statement, I'm not an idiot. --Faizi1997 (talk) 12:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

People often say things that appear contradictory. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 12:55, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Retirement?

The guy just reported that he's "retiring from all public life" because of "attacks to his artistic integrity". What gives? --uKER (talk) 23:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

He is one of the most over rated talents in Hollywood. Please don't disappoint us Shia. Please do retire. Take your boyfriend Bieber with you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.136.233.53 (talk) 01:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Considering the recent nature of his public activity, I think we should hold-off on mentioning this in the article. Even the sources that are reporting this are treating it as likely another performance/publicity-stunt/meltdown/mockery. Wait for better sources, WP:RECENTISM and what-not. Nothing to see here, folks, move along. Grayfell (talk) 01:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, I don't exactly care about the guy. My question was meant to ask what could have motivated this statement. --uKER (talk) 07:44, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I see. It's about Howard Cantour.com. This Wired article is an example of 'attacks to his artistic integrity' which also sums up the recent history. Grayfell (talk) 00:58, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Not famous any more!

Legend. Lugnuts 20:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

film debut error

Shia's fill debut was not Holes, but as it shows in his filmography, The Battle of Shaker Heights. please correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.5.177 (talk) 18:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Shia does not mean "gift of God."

Shia means, "God is salvation."

http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Shia.html

Nathan means, "God has given" or "gift of God."

http://en.wikipedia.org/Nathan_(given_name) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.104.191.44 (talk) 15:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Next reponse to plagarism accusations

The next part of that story, which hasn't yet been posted, is Labeouf claiming that his plagarism and plagarized apologies were all a piece of performance art commenting on the unoriginal nature of art and such: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/shia-labeoufs-plagiarism-performance-art-explanation-decoded/story?id=21625075

And I know that doesn't sound valid to everyone, but it's the explanation he gave, so it should be covered. 74.111.125.33 (talk) 19:08, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Picture

Caption: LaBeouf wearing a brown paper bag over his head. Someone may add "in 2014" or whenever the photo was taken. The page is protected. SR340 (talk) 10:23, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Different spellings of his name

Can't edit as icba to set up an account but his name has been spelt a couple of ways in this article

Arrest, and his sweary responses

I've removed a lot of the "quotes" attributed to LaBeouf from the section on his recent arrest, as these are not in any of the referenced news items. One of the items I removed, which was the uncensored version, was almost the same as what was written in the article, but not quite.

I would suggest that as we are wading through negative BLP territory here, we need to be careful and give quotes exactly as reported, and not uncensor them, or paraphrase them in any way. For example, the swear words. Ok, so "F--k" is pretty likely to be "Fuck", but to play devil's advocate it could also be "Funk" or a made-up psueodo-swear word, and Mr LaBoeuf could have been self-censoring. Thus he would be annoyed to see how his words have been twisted. Granted, this is unlikely, but I would still caution against uncensoring what is reported.

Remember that we should be relating what has been reported, not carrying out original research, no matter how obvious the reality is. Stephen! 12:04, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough. I changed the wording to "a homophobic slur" though, because, as far as I know, he only said "faggot" (well, it was censored as "f----t"), and saying to someone "suck my dick" isn't really a homophobic slur in this context, despite what I think the source reported. Ss112 12:13, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I mean your changes, not his words. Um...

I'll go and be quiet now LOL Stephen! 15:50, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Please be precise when quoting sources

I have reverted a number of edits where people have put in the blanked out swearing, or attributed quotes to LaBeouff that have not appeared in the cited reference.

Before you edit out any censored text, or adding his quotes in uncensored form, please remember this section from the policy on offensive material (my emphasis):

In original Misplaced Pages content, a vulgarity or obscenity should either appear in its full form or not at all; words should never be bowdlerized by replacing letters with dashes, asterisks, or other symbols. However, when quoting relevant material, rendering a quotation as it appears in the source cited trumps our style guidelines.

If you are adding quotes that could be considered a violation of WP:BLP that you have heard being reported it is extremely important that the cited reference is given. I have removed a few variations of "I am going to f--- up your career" (I forget the exact wording). The inline reference next to it did not mention that line at all, so I had to remove it.

REMEMBER: If you are posting something that might be classed as offensive, or are adding information that might put you in trouble with libel laws, ALWAYS include a reference, and ALWAYS report quotes exactly as written - not just here, but on any article. If it ultimately transpires that this whole episode was faked to discredit the named individuals (unlikely, I know, but who knows what the Lizard People Cartel get up to?), then LaBoeuff, Cummings, the police, the homeless guy etc. would be well in their rights to sue anyone who reported their actions. And if a Wikipedian editor had added to the information, then they would be putting themselves up for legal problems too. Stephen! 12:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Performance art section

I've consolidated several references to LaBeouf's performance art into a new "Performance art" section, which were previously scattered throughout the page, as well as adding some notable details of his recent performances and other art-related activities. This seems like the most logical solution to group together related content, and I hope will help keep the page tidy. Esmeme (talk) 01:04, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

@Freshacconci: I'd moved and expanded the passage on Marina Abramović to this section, giving a balanced account of the resemblance as described by the press and also the artists involved. This seems to belong in the "Performance art" section rather than the "Plagiarism accusations" section, since Abramović is not accusing him of plagiarism (on the contrary).

The Legault allegation does not seem significant enough for inclusion, as the works actually appear to have little in common according to this video (the piece is a group of people in giant paper bags bumping into each other saying "sorry"--so it's a real stretch to call LaBeouf's project a copy). I also can't find any mention of Legault by LaBeouf, Ronkko or Turner (whereas they address the Abramović question here), nor any in-depth analysis or notable figures making this association, nor does Legault herself appear to be making any such claims, so I suggest this particular allegation may not be noteworthy enough for a WP:BLP. Esmeme (talk) 06:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

When this article becomes unlocked again, would someone please make a correction to the third to last paragraph in this section. Where it says "on President's day" should be changed to "On George Washington's Birthday." There is no such thing as president's day. No Federal holiday has ever had that name. No state has a state legal holiday by that name. The name of the holiday is officially George Washington's Birthday and has never changed and ought never be changed since he is the only American that has ever deserved a holiday named after him. Nixon wanted to be included so he started to call it President's day but did so incorrectly. Feeding the public false information goes against the idea of presenting correct information to the public, part of Misplaced Pages's mission. By allowing misinformation like this on Misplaced Pages we are destroying the public trust in Misplaced Pages as a source of correct knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.144.213.97 (talk) 01:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

"For Washington's actual birthdate, see February 22." Also see Presidents'_Day_(Botswana), which in "see also" links to the page that redirects to Washington's Birthday. To be honest, mistakes about minor, simple things let people know that there are also uncorrected, identifiable mistakes on other topics that are often seen as more important. 2601:600:8500:5B1:8C3A:2804:2245:756C (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

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Change the main photo. Mandi06 (talk) 09:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC) It is a bad photo of Shia!

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Cannolis (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Religion

The wiki article says he describes himself as Jewish. He now identifies as a Christian "I found God doing Fury. I became a Christian man, and not in a fucking bullshit way—in a very real way. I could have just said the prayers that were on the page. But it was a real thing that really saved me." - http://www.interviewmagazine.com/film/shia-labeouf/#page3 80.1.219.140 (talk) 22:13, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Done Added. Note that the existing text was retained, as it reflects the fact that he has made various comments concerning religion and his relationship with it over a span of years.Dwpaul 22:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

This is a bit confusing, because LaBeouf may have been talking about becoming Christian during the filming of Fury in order to "get into character", since he was playing a devout Christian. It's probably premature to say LaBeouf is actually Christian given that his comment makes it unclear if it's a long-term thing, or just something during the filming of Fury. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Agreed; That's why I quoted his comments in the interview verbatim. No one should add "Religion: Christian" to his infobox based on this, or make other definitive statements about his religious beliefs (unless he does). Dwpaul 00:06, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

i know u added to the religion section but he is still described only as jewish in early life. in the full answer given in the article linked above it shows how shia talks about the director of fury and brad pitts faith and how even with their 'diametrically opposed positions' on religion he came to this conclusion so it was not just for the filming of fury 80.1.219.140 (talk) 00:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

That is your interpretation. The article must adopt a more neutral tone, and we must be very careful about such matters. We will wait for him to say something more definitive before we take his comments in this interview as describing his adoption of a new faith. Dwpaul 00:50, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Also – LaBeouf says of Pitt and Ayers "these two diametrically opposed positions both lead to the same spot, and I really looked up to both men." So he says he respects them both, but he does not say that he adopted either of their positions on religion, or that he changed his, other than making with their help the transformation needed to play his character. Wait for more. Dwpaul 00:58, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

i took "both lead to the same spot" to mean he took both views but it still led him to be a christian regardless of brads view and not to mean the further development of his character as i don't see how brads view would be relevant to helping with his christian character 80.1.219.140 (talk) 01:22, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

That's how you took it, but that is not what he said. We should not put words in his mouth. Dwpaul 01:25, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

i did not put words in his mouth as he was describing how he became christian and he also says "it was a real thing that really saved me" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.219.140 (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Look, I'm not going to debate this with you here. Please review the Misplaced Pages policies I mentioned above (I have bolded the links to them to make them easier to find). He never stated that he has personally adopted the Christian faith. He may very well have meant that he was "saved" in the context of finding the inspiration to portray a devout Christian on screen when he himself is not one. As long as there is ambiguity, we are not going to state that he has undergone a religious conversion. It is up to LaBeouf whether he wants to talk more about it. Perhaps if he does, his meaning in this interview will be more clear. Dwpaul 01:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

he said he became a christian man and in this context it does not seem to be just about the part he is playing which u may interpret it as and when someone says they are saved it means by god and does not fit into what u are saying and i am aware of wikipedia policies and u should not use this as a forum and should be used to improve the article and i only continued the convo when u started with "Also – LaBeouf says of Pitt and Ayers " 80.1.219.140 (talk) 02:05, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm a little late here, sorry. I don't understand how much clearer Shia could be. He said he became a Christian. I mean if you're going to say "he may've well meant this this or this", you need to do it with every individual on this site... because with that logic we can never know for sure what somebody truly thinks. Fact is, Shia said, "I could have just said the prayers that were on the page , but it was a real thing that really saved me... I became a Christian man, not in a f**king bullsh*t way, but in a very real way." I think it's pretty obvious what he meant. Marshan3q (talk) 08:25, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Any actor playing the role of a devout Christian "becomes" a Christian if he is worth his paycheck. The question is whether he did so outside the context of his role in Fury. His words in the interview are highly ambiguous on this point, and unless and until the actor says more, we should not claim that he has undergone a religious conversion. Dwpaul 20:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Note that we are not suppressing the information in the interview, which readers of this article can read and about which they can draw their own conclusions. I am strongly suggesting that we simply do as we have done, and publish his statement without comment, or more specifically synthesis, that says something he may not have intended to say. Dwpaul 20:31, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

Please update your article to include that 'Disturbia' is based on the storyline of Hitchcock's 'Rear Window.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.84.102.240 (talk) 21:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done That belongs in the article on Disturbia, not inserted in the two sentences of this article that discuss Shia LaBeouf's role in the movie. (And it is already there.) Dwpaul 22:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Error

Notably, citation 53's sentence states that the Transformers: Age of Extinction film featuring Mark Wahlberg is 'to-be-released when, in fact, it is now available on ITunes. Thanks guys!Michaelclykes (talk) 23:15, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Done Yeah, that was way out of date. Good catch, thanks. Grayfell (talk) 00:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

music video section

should we add it? he's on Elastic Heart MV w/ Maddie Ziegler zlouiemark 08:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Just Do It Meme

There should be a mention of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awkwardtechdude (talk • contribs) 16:54, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Please add it to the article. JUST DO IT! (Don't let your Dreams be Dreams!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:FD31:1E80:2839:7CF3:20C1:8AB5 (talk) 19:14, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Done Added it. It still requires some linking and sourcing but it's there now. Supertanno (talk) 13:23, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

As the article is a WP:BLP, adding this sort of information should not be done without a source being provided at the same time. DonIago (talk) 14:17, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Mistake: "The Artist Is Present" should read "Rhythm 0"

The section of this bio that mentions the New York Times comparing Shia's performance-based art piece #IAmSorry to Marina Abramovic's The Artist Is Present meant to refer to Marina Abramovic's piece, "Rhythm 0." His piece bears no resemblance to "The Artist Is Present," but is very similar to "Rhythm 0," and "Rhythm 0" is the actual piece the New York Times compared his piece to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meghan713 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

It should come as a surprise to no one that his latest effort, #IAMSORRY, is not a complete LaBeouf original. It resembles Marina Abramovic's infamous 2010 MoMa exhibit "The Artist is Present". ... LaBeouf's version of "The Artist is Present" has him wearing tuxedo ...(Guardian)
Franco highlights some of LaBeouf's recent actions, including a performance called #IAmSorry ... seemingly riffing on Marina Abramovic's famous and similar piece "The Artist is Present". (Guardian re: Franco's New York Times piece)

The cited sources are pretty clear in their references to "The Artist is Present" and do not mention "Rhythm 0". Franco didn't specify the name of a specific Abramovic work in his New York Times OpEd, nor did Time other than mentioning "the work of Marina Abramoviç". The NYT is not otherwise cited as a source for this information and I can't find any case where the Times itself made any comparison. We will go with our cited sources. General Ization 23:37, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Also note that the article does not mention "the New York Times comparing" the two works as you stated above. It mentions The Guardian and Time making comparisons, both cited in the article. General Ization 23:46, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Hipster

Doesn't mention that he's a hipster. He's a hipster right? 86.139.40.206 (talk) 08:50, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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In October 10, 2015, Lebeouf was arrested of one count of <a href=https://en.wikipedia.org/Public_intoxication>Public Intoxication</a>. Witnesses claim that he was running across the street and jaywalking in front of Police Officers. According to this source, he will be no longer in Travis County Jail. SmithJrBlaquaLuigi Inc, LLC. (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

When making a request for an edit to a protected article, just as when editing an unprotected article directly, you must provide citations of reliable sources that support your edit (which you did not do). There is one here. However, I'm still considering whether this event is actually notable enough to mention in this article. General Ization 15:05, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Manifesto

The "manifesto" from early 2014 was mentioned at one point but then removed due to perceived lack of future relevance. It was later added back in. However, although it's listed on Shia LaBeouf's website, it no longer says it's by him, either in the online HTML version or the PDF. This is despite the comments made on atractivoquenobello. 2601:600:8500:5B1:8C3A:2804:2245:756C (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Edit: to be clear, the atractivoquenobello interview says it was "playing with ideas of authorship". It seemed that the purpose was to point out that if you pay money, other people will generally let you take credit for inventing or writing something. See for example the fact that a number (not sure how many) of popular songs are written by someone else, and then sold to whoever is seen in popular culture as having created it. Example, Run Devil Run (Girls' Generation song). So "plagiarism", in this sense, is not a matter of accurate representation of creative talent, but just a monetary issue. But whoever has edited the section entitled "Plagiarism accusations" did not see fit to mention the manifesto, as they apparently did not realize the relevance. 2601:600:8500:5B1:8C3A:2804:2245:756C (talk) 15:53, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Current source article, "Shia LaBeouf collaborator: I don’t think you need a sign saying ‘Don’t murder the artist’" does connect the manifesto to the 'plagiarism' controversy, but says, "In his 2011 Metamodernist Manifesto – the authorship of which was later attributed to LaBeouf in another nod to his plagiarism scandal – Turner writes that ". The article writer seems to think that it was simply, "oh haha, Shia LaBeouf is claiming credit for another thing he did not originate". The atractivoquenobello interview talks about "people in the 'States'" taking the manifesto too seriously, or people viewing it—or the fact that Shia LaBeouf was given credit for it—as entirely ironical. It also talks about the "media" world being unsure if recent actions are within the domain of the news media, and the "art" world being unsure if they are within the domain of art. However, it doesn't seem that this interview clarified whether either view was incorrect. It could be argued that, in the style of Death of the Author, the author of the Guardian article did not make a mistake. 2601:600:8500:5B1:8C3A:2804:2245:756C (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Right now it seems his website isn't even mentioned on the wiki page, but there might be a complex dimension. This talk page section only concerns what would probably be a sentence or two in the article, but sometimes people seem to feel strongly about adding even one sentence. It appears that Shia LaBeouf's website, which appears to list only things from around the beginning of 2014, still portrayed Shia LaBeouf as the author of the "Metamodernist Manifesto" even after the original website had removed all mention of him. Oct 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20141010210622/http://thecampaignbook.com/projects/metamodernist-manifesto/ It uses an archived image from March 2015, that says "by shia labeouf": https://web.archive.org/web/20150315114754im_/http://thecampaignbook.com/files/gimgs/metamodernist-manifesto.png The current image, 'last modified' date 26 May 2015, has "by shia labeouf" removed: http://thecampaignbook.com/files/gimgs/metamodernist-manifesto.png

But the original website had "by shia labeouf" removed sometime between 2014-09-06 and 2014-10-21. (The favicon, attribution at the bottom, email address, PDF version, and website link were changed at earlier times.) If this is accurate, then the screenshot on Shia LaBeouf's website was consistent with how the site had appeared from mid-January to probably 21 Oct 2014, but was inconsistent with how the site appeared when the screenshot was made public. This could have made Shia LaBeouf seem 'dishonest'. However, this contradiction no longer exists. 2601:600:8500:5B1:8C3A:2804:2245:756C (talk) 20:53, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Joined US National Guard

http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/22732/1/shia-labeouf-the-interview

"So the day after I got the job, I joined the US National Guard." It's doubtful this would have interfered with the filming schedule, ~~and he doesn't give any additional details,~~ but it may be worth mentioning in this article. He also confirms that he pulled his tooth out, not just filed it down. This link already has a reference, but the reference isn't named. 2601:600:8500:5B1:8C3A:2804:2245:756C (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Saide

How do you pronounce "Saide"? I need it for the Bulgarian Misplaced Pages. Is it pronounced as Sayid Jarrah or Sade, or Sadie Frost. Which one of these three?

I assume like Zaid, which is a common Ashkenazi Jewish surname. 109.66.118.99 (talk) 21:41, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Does this article need to be protected?

I don't know why it is. Tom W (talk) 13:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Marriage's validity

Look, it's common sense that a marriage record is public but that doesn't mean any of us are going to not only pay the fee to obtain one or go searching for a non-existent license. I'm not saying the wedding was a "publicity stunt", but simply the license wasn't made.Trillfendi (talk) 03:07, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand what "unofficially marry" means. You're married or you're not. There are different types of marriage but it's an either/or thing. Is LaBeouf married or not? 98.10.165.90 (talk) 18:28, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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He is not married to Mia Goth. A commitment ceremony was performed but no marriage was recorded: https://twitter.com/ClarkCountyNV/status/786219273601490944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw . In the Infobox please change "Spouse(s)" to "Partner(s)", please change "(m.2016)" to "(2012-present)" and under Personal life please change "After years of intermittent relationship, LaBeouf married" to "LaBeouf participated in a commitment ceremony with".— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.99.172 (talk) 10:08, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Done Based on the RS and the county clerk tweet as well, it is clear that he is not legally married. Sir Joseph 20:26, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Monkelese has incorrectly changed it back to Spouse again.

Done - again - Arjayay (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Someone has changed it back, again: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Shia_LaBeouf&oldid=773951563 I've been making requests for Google to change it as well but I might have to be a bit more pointed, maybe if you guys at Misplaced Pages know someone at Google that would be helpful. It wouldn't surprise me if LaBeouf himself keeps tabs on his own Misplaced Pages page.

Done & added comment stating to not change further as per this edit request. — IVORK _Discuss 03:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Note: As for Google's cache of the article, this is updated automatically via Google's spider and is likely best left for the next cycle. — IVORK _Discuss 03:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Also a Rapper

In October 2016, He appeared on Sway in the Morning and rapped through a 5 fingers of death freestyle. After i saw this, i looked up more music by him. Apparently he does rap on his own time. I'm think Rapper should be listed as one of his occupations as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.10.128.164 (talk) 01:22, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Anti-Trump protest

Just dumping a potential source here. Seems rather silly actually. --220 of 07:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

References

Trolls do CIA-level research to ruin Shia LaBeouf’s Trump protest. 11 March 2017. www.news.com.au. Retrieved 11 March 2017.

The collaborative artwork is already detailed in the LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner entry. As the artists themselves have made clear it appears to be frequently misreported as a one-man rally by LaBeouf, instead of a participatory artwork by the trio. Also, I've seen conflicting reports in the media about it and 4chan's involvement, so I would suggest caution. Esmeme (talk) 14:50, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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Remove "1488 Hitler" from the name at the beginning or article Danr31 (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Done - Mlpearc (open channel) 16:20, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

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Recent Arrest

The subject of this article was recently arrested on multiple charges including "Obstruction of Justice." Evidence of WP:N can be found here, here, and here. Thank you to any users who address this recent information. Sleyece (talk) 15:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I see Obstruction but not "of Justice", I find it more likely he was charged of obstructing a law enforcement official.

Contentcreator (talk) 06:15, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Okay, yes contencreator, that is what he was charged with. I apologize for the misinformation. Sleyece (talk) 14:45, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

We cannot add this to the article, as this would cast negative light on the person in question. Please consult the rules for famous people that are on the right side of history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.18.127 (talk) 08:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Recent deletions

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