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22 October 2006

Nigerian Yellow Pages

Request relist, Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nigerian Yellow Pages. On my count, the discussion has 3 keeps (excluding IP and new accounts) and 3 deletes (including nomination). --Vsion 18:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/Help:Edit_summary Edit summary

Macau categories

To overturn Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 15#People_by_nationality_sub-category_pages concerning Macau. Macanese often refers specifically to natives in Macau with partial Portuguese parentage. People from Macau is broader than Macanese people. - Privacy 13:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Bush as Hitler

I started an article: Documenting the global phenomena of comparing President George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler.

Ted Rall (cartoonist and writer)

In January, 2004, Ted Rall asked "Is Bush a Nazi?" and seemed to conclude that Bush is worse because at least Hitler was elected: Bush as Hitler

"Lately we're being told that it's either (a) inappropriate or (b) untrue to refer to Bush's illegitimate junta as Nazi, neo-Nazi or neofascist. Because, you know, you're not necessarily a Nazi just because you seize power like one, take advantage of a national Reichstag Fire-like tragedy like one, build concentration and death camps like one, start unprovoked wars like one, Red-bait your liberal opponents like one or create a national security apparatus that behaves like something a Nazi would create and even has a Nazi-sounding name. All of those people who see a little Adolf in the not-so-bright eyes of America's homeland-grown despot are just imagining things. Me, I'm catching it for this week's cartoon for daring to suggest that, well--you know. Of course, there are differences. Hitler, for example, was legally elected. And he had a plan--not one that I like, but a plan--for the period after the war. I'll be happy to stop comparing Bush to Hitler when he stops acting like him. " Bush as Hitler

People keep deleting it. It was to be a scholarly tome about this growing worldwide phenomena! Why isn't it an appropriate subject? NBGPWS 05:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Dreadmire

I request this article be undeleted. I came to Misplaced Pages looking for detailed info about the book for a school project, only to find the article had been recently deleted. After reviewing the persons involved in the debate, I believe meat puppets and sock puppets, on a jihad against the author of the Dreadmire book, are responsible for the DELETE decision by the closing Admin. The book meets the requirements, albeit barely, at Misplaced Pages:Notability (books). I believe the article can be revamped to make it less of an advertisement and more of a encyclopedia entry, which was the original complaint. Provided the meat puppets do not vandalize the article, I think it can be repaired. The author Randy Richards is notable too, as he was involved in a legal dispute with another publisher (Necromancer Games), over the Dreadmire manuscript. The notability of all, via popularity, high quality, infamy, and/or controversy of both the book, Dreadmire, and the author, Randy Richards, make the article a necessity for Misplaced Pages.--RJMalko 00:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC) I moved this request here. It had been incorrectly placed under another section of this page. Pascal.Tesson 01:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Overturn I am the creator of the original article and I have not now, nor ever, used sock puppets. I believe if you check the IP addresses of everyone involved with the debate, you will find there is no sock puppetry on my part. I cannot speak for everyone. I do believe there were meat puppets on both sides of the debate (not of my doing) called in by new user Quode, or my newest stalker Pascal.Tesson. My original idea was to create a rundown of what the book was about (perhaps I got too carried away), then create articles on the author and publishing company, in the same format other books of a similar nature are entered into Misplaced Pages (i.e. Eberron, Greyhawk). Precedent for this kind of article has already been set, all forms of puppetry aside. And given the legal notoriety of Dreadmire, as noted above, as well as the notoriety of the author, I think at the very least ONE ARTICLE explaining about the book, its author, and publisher is in order.--Cryogenesis 03:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • As your newest stalker, I would like to point out that your reaction to all of this was to place prod tags on 6 different established articles, including a WikiProject and to add Dreadmire to the list of requested articles. Pascal.Tesson 04:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Wow, thats the pot calling the kettle black. Merely continuing your work. Trying to be a service to Misplaced Pages. Nothing more. Don't be a hypocrite, or you'll start to look like you have ulterior motives.--Cryogenesis 06:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF. Edit histories are public for a reason. ~ trialsanderrors 17:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Endorse Deletion I have already made my points. At this time any response would just extend the cycle. As Quode I stand alone, I fought alone, and I hope my integrity speaks for me. The others who stood against him did so of there own free will. Randy hates anyone who stands against his will. He cannot answer an honest question, cannot stand for honest debate. Its all smoke and mirrors, accusation without any factual information, conspiracy for no gain. Without the Dreadmire article Randy will still be the same person, he looses nothing, gains nothing. Is all this chaos worth it? We see Cryogenesis pleading for a scrap, please let him leave the table hungry but maybe wiser for it. Quode 04:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • <Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. User:Zoe|(talk) 17:23, 22 October 2006 (UTC)>User:Cryogenesis|Cryogenesis]] 06:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Endorse Deletion and kudos to the closer for going through this mess. ~ trialsanderrors 07:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Endorse deletion Wow, that was one mess of an AfD discussion to read. I see no process error - closing admin did well to discount likely socks and make judgment call based on available arguments. GassyGuy 07:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Endorse deletion. I also deleted Randy Richards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) which was being used largely as an attack. It was tagged WP:PROD by one of the involved parties as harrassment, which complaint was made in a civil manner, but the editors of this article continued to edit-war over the tag and add apparently defamatory material. I have no idea what is going on here, but it seems to me that the subject is more trouble than it's worth. Guy 08:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Endorse Deletion What started as a simple act of author generated self-advertising on a minor work has digrressed into name calling and puppetry that is really more trouble than it is worth for either the Wiki or Mr. Richards. Perhaps at a later date and after more time has elasped. At this point, there seems to be no point. -- Ifuwantitlikethat
  • Agreed. Its called a smear campaign and Wiki vandalism. Thank you, and at the very least this attack was identified by a neutral party for what it really was... harassment. Thanks for the validation.--Cryogenesis 13:38, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Xplicit

I believe this article was unfairly deleted there are plenty of sources showing he is a real rapper/producer, just look Masta Ace's and Large Proffesors' albums! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebo Thug (talk • contribs)

Andy Stephenson

With all due respect to User:Naconkantari, the debate over the deletion of this article was contentious enough that I don't think it's appropriate to say that a consensus to delete was achieved. The debate was also unfortunately marred by politicized campaigning on other sites, both to keep and to delete, but that doesn't change the fact that there was no consensus. VoiceOfReason 09:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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