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	ATTENTION SCUM. And wide are your delusions. They don't sleep anymore on the beach... I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit blood and cum on my hands. fuck AWB

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Discuss this at: Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Magioladitis 2 closed Not even @Bgwhite: could stop this one. Although, he seems to have vanished like a fart in the wind!

And this. :D Lugnuts 14:35, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Chuckle Lugnuts 20:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

WP:DIVA

Here we go again.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

And the outcome was this and this. Lugnuts 08:17, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

one and two

Bitter much?

1997–98 Wills Challenge Series

India toured Pakistan in 1997/98 to play this three-match ODI series to commemorate 50 years of Pakistan's independence. I am not sure what section it qualifies under in this template: the 'Test and LOI tours' or the 'Tournaments hosted'. All those tournaments added under the latter have all involved 'Multiple teams' as the template says. So if it has to be added under the former section, should the name of the page be changed to Indian cricket team in Pakistan in 1997–98? Thanks. Editor5454 (talk) 06:57, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Editor5454: - looking at the Cricinfo scorecards, it says the matches are part of the "India in Pakistan ODI Series 1997/98", and the first ODI has the heading "1st ODI, India tour of Pakistan at Hyderabad...". I'm guessing that Wills Challenge is some sort of sponsership name (cf. Investec with the England cricket team), so I'd just be bold and move it to the title of Indian cricket team in Pakistan in 1997–98. Lugnuts 07:28, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Alright, going bold then. Thanks. Editor5454 (talk) 08:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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Edit-warring

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This is the guy who a) can't read b) can't write a coherent line of text and c) can't source to save their life. And sourcing a BLP doesn't seem to apply to them either. Sheriff is in town? Looks like your the new Buford T. Justice. Lugnuts 17:46, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Your response is very erratic, you need to collect your thoughts, they are all over the place. And, you should talk about the content instead of person. My username is better than yours, at least it means something. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Talk:"Carlos Crassus"

Refences: - Olympic.org - Athlete Page https://www.olympic.org/carlos-crassus

- Olympic.org - Records Page https://www.olympic.org/melbourne-/-stockholm-1956/shooting/25m-rapid-fire-pistol-60-shots-men

- Sports Reference - Records Page https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1956/SHO/mens-rapid-fire-pistol-25-metres.html

- Sports Reference - Records Page https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1960/SHO/mens-rapid-fire-pistol-25-metres.html

- Web page dedicated to Sgt. William McMillan (USMC) http://www.wwmcmillan.info/worldShooting_1954.html

- ISSF - International Shooting Sport Federation - Records http://www.issf-sports.org/athletes/athlete.ashx?personissfid=SHVENM0000000034

- Juegos Deportivos Bolivarianos http://www.andesacd.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Bolivia-Ol%C3%ADmpica-Cap%C3%ADtulos-VI-al-VIII.pdf

- Venezuela en los XXI Juegos Centroamericanos y del Caribe https://issuu.com/carlos00perez/docs/revista_juegos_cac_mayaguez_2010

- Los Juegos Regionales mas antiguos , Juegos Deportivos Centroamericanos y del Caribe / Enrique Montesinos http://www.pentathlon.org/wp-content/uploads/Libro-CAC-WEB.pdf

- The Pan American Games / Los Juegos Panamericanos: A Statistical History 1951 - 1999 / by Steven Older https://books.google.com/books?id=B4IwCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA201&dq=carlos+crassus&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFh8WeupfaAhXEt1MKHUqjDuIQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=carlos%20crassus&f=false

- Memoria de los Séptimos Juegos Deportivos Centroamericanos y del Caribe, del 5 al 20 de Marzo de 1954, Mexico, D. F.

- Chicago, USA, Host to the Third Pan American Games: 1959, August 27th-September 7th; Official Bulletin; Boletin

- United States ... Olympic Book: Quadrennial Report of the United States Olympic Committee

- El Nacional (Venezuela Newspaper) Crassus 572 Puntos, Oct 17, 1962

Ahercra (talk) 18:27, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Lugnuts., C.Crassus died from cancer, in February 5, 1984, he was my uncle. We have venezuelan documents, that confirm that C.C. pass away...

You may visit de Geni Web page, to confirm the registered data by the web page curators (I'm one of 3 curators of that Geni page): https://www.geni.com/people/Carlos-Crassus-Moreno/6000000042896479209

Did you check the other references provided?

Do you have any way to send you documents related to this?

maybe an email?

Ahercra (talk) 14:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Lugnuts, That for actualize the information ... Please note the following:

1. The Following Web page will shows: the weight & height of C. Crassus + His Final Standing & Rank Positions for the Summers Olympics Games 1954 & 1960: https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/cr/carlos-crassus-1.html

2. The following page, will confirm that C. Crassus, participated in the III Pan American Games - Chicago 1959 , getting two 4th places: http://www.issf-sports.org/athletes/athlete.ashx?personissfid=SHVENM0000000034 (Later I give

3. The following page, will confirm that C.Crassus parcicipated in the 36th World Shooting Championships - Caracas, Venezuela: http://www.wwmcmillan.info/worldShooting_1954.html / Regrettably I only have in Newspaper, the evidence of the participation of C. Crassu in the World Shooting Championships 37th Moscow 1958 & 38th Cairo 62

4. I Have more information, but lets do this step by step ...

Ahercra (talk) 02:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Lugnuts, Thanks for actualize the information ... Please note the following:

4. I Have more information, but lets do this step by step ...

Ahercra (talk) 02:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Ahercra (talk) 18:32, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Talk:lugnuts about Carlos Crassus

It is not my intention to jeopardize your good work with this article,

Please read the information and check the provided references ...

In addition to the web links, I have 264 journalistic articles from different countries (99% in Spanish - compiled directly by Carlos during his life), I can provide by email if necessary.

Also, I have pictures of Mr. C. Crassus & his sporting events ...

This is a first-hand information, Note that Cra in Ahercra is for Crassus ...

I have no experience making editions in Misplaced Pages or the protocols to follow ... No problem to provide you with the information required...

References:

- Olympic.org - Athlete Page https://www.olympic.org/carlos-crassus

- Olympic.org - Records Page https://www.olympic.org/melbourne-/-stockholm-1956/shooting/25m-rapid-fire-pistol-60-shots-men

- Sports Reference - Records Page https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1956/SHO/mens-rapid-fire-pistol-25-metres.html

- Sports Reference - Records Page https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1960/SHO/mens-rapid-fire-pistol-25-metres.html

- Web page dedicated to Sgt. William McMillan (USMC) http://www.wwmcmillan.info/worldShooting_1954.html

- ISSF - International Shooting Sport Federation - Records http://www.issf-sports.org/athletes/athlete.ashx?personissfid=SHVENM0000000034

- Juegos Deportivos Bolivarianos http://www.andesacd.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Bolivia-Ol%C3%ADmpica-Cap%C3%ADtulos-VI-al-VIII.pdf

- Venezuela en los XXI Juegos Centroamericanos y del Caribe https://issuu.com/carlos00perez/docs/revista_juegos_cac_mayaguez_2010

- Los Juegos Regionales mas antiguos , Juegos Deportivos Centroamericanos y del Caribe / Enrique Montesinos http://www.pentathlon.org/wp-content/uploads/Libro-CAC-WEB.pdf

- Memoria de los Séptimos Juegos Deportivos Centroamericanos y del Caribe, del 5 al 20 de Marzo de 1954, Mexico, D. F.

- Chicago, USA, Host to the Third Pan American Games: 1959, August 27th-September 7th; Official Bulletin; Boletin

- United States ... Olympic Book: Quadrennial Report of the United States Olympic Committee Ahercra (talk) 18:50, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Don't just dump all the bare URLs into the article and format it in the way you keep doing - it's a total mess. Visit the WP:TEAHOUSE to get help on how to write an article. Lugnuts 07:19, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

statistics

You delete statistics portion from steve smith cricketer in the same way delete statistics from the page Virat Kohli. I undid it just becoz it was in Virat Kohli page. sir please thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.78.129 (talk) 07:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

please sir reply — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.78.129 (talk) 08:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Related discussion is here. Thanks. Lugnuts 08:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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Stats

Hi, appreciate the acknowledgement about the Kohli stats and agree with you about Steve Smith (cheat). I more reader than editor here and, well, blocks of stats are a distraction that just put you off reading the article. Fine with the infobox concept and like to see a table that summarizes and explains useful information like the squad tables in some of the tour articles, or those continuity boxes for a team captaincy or a world record. It's all about context. See you around and thanks. Protea caffra (talk) 10:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

checking date formats and using edit summaries

Making edits like this where you're updating the last date an article was checked for compliance with WP:MOSDATE isn't intuitive. I had to check the {{Use mdy dates}}'s documentation to understand what you're doing. If not for the fact that you're an established user I'd've just reverted you. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative environment and using an edit summary that lets onlookers know what you're doing helps. I appreciate the work you put in here and if you could be a little clearer it would save everyone but you some time. (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Chris Troutman (talk) 18:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

"If not for the fact that you're an established user I'd've just reverted you" - Troutman - see WP:AGF. Lugnuts 18:02, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

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2020 WT20 Qualification pathway.

Hey I have given link for Europe sub regional tournament. their you can see all teams. You can see asia middle east and africa group A fixture at ICC website. Bhutan confirmed Asia eastern region tournament on its twitter. There are links to news about EAP tournaments. I will cite those too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cr.anup (talk • contribs) 10:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Message from 1997kB

Hey, I am just curious after seing some of cricket pages as well as categories of West Indies cricket team. Well some of them have West Indian instead of West Indies in titles as well in content. Is it a mistake or I am missing someting? Thank you! ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Do you have some examples that I can check? If it is the West Indies touring another country, it should be West Indian in the title, as per the articles in the category Category:West Indian cricket tours of Pakistan. Thanks. Lugnuts 07:12, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Aha I got it, btw the category is on commons and not about touring. Thanks! ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Talk on List of 2018 Indian Premier League Half-Centuries

This is good article because when someone Search on Google List of 2018 Indian Premier League Half-Centuries It will directly show the information of knowledge graph. Half-Century is a unique article in Misplaced Pages. & Also in a past 10 years this article not be created.but in 2018 I want this article of IPL Half-Century.so kindly request to you this article should not be deleted please (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 10:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC))

2018 County Championship

Hi Lugnuts,

I have created a page on 2018 County Championship, which should contain all the details of this year's English County (Specsavers) championship. I saw that you were regular in updating the last year's page. Can I request for your help in continuous/ regular updates on this page with scores, results, news, stats etc.

Thanks and Regards, Vikram Maingi (talk) 12:04, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

First class players (MCCU)

Hi Lugnuts, I noticed not all the players that played for the MCCU sides 2018_Marylebone_Cricket_Club_University_Matches have had pages created - Would be good to get them all added. Great work and thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.67.13 (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Simbine

… is born in Kempton Park as sourced here. -Enzino (talk) 19:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Great - now source it in the article. Lugnuts 19:25, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Advice

Hi Lugnuts, it appears the filmmaker here has inserted his official site all over the article. Now while it's fine to have the official site, I am not sure if its ref should be repeated in every paragraph. Not sure how to improve the article. Hoverfish Talk 15:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

No I'm wrong about who did what. But still the ref is all over... Hoverfish Talk 15:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Or rather I got it right. User:Personfilms does state he is the filmmaker. Hoverfish Talk 15:13, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

There's a bit of WP:COI going on there! The official site should be used once, in the external links section (IMO). Everything else should be sourced from another WP:RS. I quickly loaded the guy's website, and it was just an advert for videos. Linking to that homepage doesn't actually cite all the claims in the article. Lugnuts 17:05, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

There is a Profile subpage that covers much of the text, but yes COI seems to be an issue. Thanks. Hoverfish Talk 01:43, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Template problem.

HI! I was giving touches to the 2013 Tour of California and Chad Beyer's team says 'template problem'.... Could you check that for me? I think I put the right UCI code... Mattsnow81 (Talk) 09:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Matt. I think it's because the code shortcut wasn't used for that team in 2013. If you look at the teams section and click edit, you'll see the coding used for Champion System. I've updated the KOtM table with that code. Lugnuts 09:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Everything's fine, you're a chef! Mattsnow81 (Talk) 09:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Did you read that LA settled for 5M dollars? I read he is worth 100M$. Now he can laugh all the way to the bank LOL Mattsnow81 (Talk) 10:01, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Just reading that now! He's probably paying it back at $100 per month too! Lugnuts 10:04, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

His lawyers must have been crushing him though. I read they were paid 500$ an hour! Mattsnow81 (Talk) 10:15, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Sneakers

HI, did you actually watch the movie? The plot is completely made up. Please check IMDB or other sites. Arved (talk) 10:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

@Arved: Did you actually bother to read my edit summary and WP:COPYVIO. Well done you on restoring the words copied from IMDb. See WP:CIR too. Lugnuts

Sorry, I didn't noticed, that the old plot was copied from IMDB. But the one about Budapest and Indonesia was completely made up. Better no plot than a totally wrong one. Arved (talk) 10:46, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the List of most-viewed Asian music videos on YouTube

Well, I created this article with the mindset that every eager mind who wants to clarify the position of various countries of Asia on the platform of YouTube can have an access to the article created by me. It is true that there is not any official release of any article on the web stating this kind of list but it can be noted that there are several articles depicting the tops of individual countries like that of Korea (K-pop), Japan (J-pop), Vietnam (V-pop), Middle East (Arabic songs), India (Bollywood songs and others) and infact almost every region of Asia possess this kind of list. So, what do you say, are they all narrow minded? It is totally obivious that now the world is globalised. So, the music production by any country may seem the participation of other but that doesn't play with the very identity of the song (resembling the culture). Regarding the negligence of middle east, I tried my best to include each and every part of Asia in it, but I could not make it happen because not every part of Asia could make it to the list (means lowering the bar below 350 million would make the article a mess because there are a lot of many videos above 300 million views). For example, V-pop's best has around 336 million views, J-pop's best have 185 million, Arabic best is more than 600 million views, but it was from a Moroccan singer (and exclusively produced by a Moroccan company). So I could not include them in the list. Well, I am not saying that they will never make it to the list or I have the full editing rights on the article. Anyone can edit it and include others in the future and exactly that's how Misplaced Pages works. Regarding the breach of the very rights of Misplaced Pages, I have not made this article for using any propaganda or with wrong mindset or intention. If anybody feels so, then he has the full rights regarding molding the article in the way it suits an encyclopediac content and making it fruitful for others.

Thank you for your kind intention. Rishu Shukla (talk) 00:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

List of YouTubers

The List of YouTubers is being nominated for deletion again. I don't know why. It's been nominated so many damn times. Take a look here. Mr. C.C._{I didn't do it!} 00:07, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

You monstrous, sanctimonious, hypocrite

Apparently, you are so ridiculously self-important that you see no contradiction between whinging about other authors adding in a sourced points table - standard across thousands of sporting pages - yet still feel free to add in partial match results in violation of wikipedia policies on livescores. Wake up to yourself. 58.107.64.102 (talk) 10:08, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Oooh, my WP:SOCK sense is tingling. Funny you mention sources, as it's something you can't do. Now who said hypocrite...? Lugnuts 10:11, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Puzzled

Regarding Park 25, why change it? (Also, there's no mention of Park 25 in the target page you changed it to.) Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

See this. Thanks. Lugnuts 16:13, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually, this one is more informative - when I looked at the link you mentioned, my reaction was "Wow! How much did that cost me!!" The second link tells me that is was "only" $10 million. Pdfpdf (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

By-the-way, the Karen Rolton Oval is only part of Park 25; the park contains lots of other stuff. So I don't think it's entirely appropriate to change Park 25 from Adelaide Park Lands#Park 25 to Karen Rolton Oval, but at least I now know why you did it. Pdfpdf (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

In reference to WP:BRD, it's hard to "D" when you just "R" and won't "D". To be clearer, why should Park 25 redirect to Karen Rolton Oval when Karen Rolton Oval is only a small part of Adelaide Park Lands#Park 25? Pdfpdf (talk) 04:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't really care. If you don't want it to redirect there, then change it. Lugnuts 08:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Blocked for 1 week

This, this and this are completely unacceptable, and at odds with Misplaced Pages's policies on civility and collaborative editing. I have blocked your account for a period of 1 week, during which time you can reflect on your attitude to other editors. Fish+Karate 10:24, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

@Fish and karate:, @Cricket246:

Hello. I've had all day to reflect back on this. I can't excuse those edits. Nothing can. Needless to say, they should not have been made, and I apologise to Cricket246 for making them in the first place. I have many failings, with frustration being an obvious one. I understand that, and I need to spot these situations that lead to stupid actions on my part before they get to this level, and ensure those actions don't happen again.

@Cricket246: - again, I apologise to you for those edits. I should not have made them - you do some fine work here. I'm very willing to draw a line under the whole thing, and more than happy to work with you on cricket umpire articles, etc, to make them the best they can be on WP. I'll happily remove my comments from the project's talkpage that offend. I understand if you don't accept the apology, and no hard feelings if you don't believe what I've written here.

@Fish and karate: (or any other admin), I hope you believe I'm being sincere here. What else can I say? My block log clearly shows a block for a personal attack. What reassurances can I give? Only that it stands out like a sore thumb on said log, and thay if you were to unblock me now, and for some mad reason I went back to those attacks, you could simply reblock for a month, six months, indef, etc. No questions asked. But I don't want to get back to that situation of having my conduct questioned, and getting blocked again. Once more, I make an apology for those edits, and will ensure this stops now.

I want to edit and make articles the best they can be. I understand I can be blunt to some users, but as per my opening line, I've reflected on this across the day. It's easy to take an extra second to think before posting a comment, or in some cases, not to comment at all, and let things go. Again, no hard feelings if this request is turned down, and if that's the case, see you all next week.

If anyone could look at this during the morning (UK time) I'd be grateful. Even if it's to say no and tough cheese. I think Cricket246 is happy with my apology (above and thread below). I could also add WP:ROPE to the above too. Thanks. Lugnuts 06:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fish and karate: - Good morning - have you had a chance to review this? Thanks. Lugnuts 09:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

And looking at WP:BLOCKP - "Deterrence is based upon the likelihood of repetition. For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased or the conduct issues have been resolved." I would argue that the issue has ceased, with issues resolved, with a promise of this not continuing with the other editor (or any editor, for that matter). Thanks. Lugnuts 10:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

And further looking at the ANI thread, MarnetteD, The Rambling Man and Betty Logan bring up points about issues being resolved, punitive" v "preventative, and reducing (the block) to the standard 24 hours and put him on notice, etc. Lugnuts 10:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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Hello. I've had all day to reflect back on this. I can't excuse those edits. Nothing can. Needless to say, they should not have been made, and I apologise to Cricket246 for making them in the first place. I have many failings, with frustration being an obvious one. I understand that, and I need to spot these situations that lead to stupid actions on my part before they get to this level, and ensure those actions don't happen again. 
<span class="template-ping">@]:</span> - again, I apologise to you for those edits. I should not have made them - you do some fine work here. I'm very willing to draw a line under the whole thing, and more than happy to work with you on cricket umpire articles, etc, to make them the best they can be on WP. I'll happily remove my comments from the project's talkpage that offend. I understand if you don't accept the apology, and no hard feelings if you don't believe what I've written here.
<span class="template-ping">@]:</span> (or any other admin), I hope you believe I'm being sincere here. What else can I say? My block log clearly shows a block for a personal attack. What reassurances can I give? Only that it stands out like a sore thumb on said log, and thay if you were to unblock me now, and for some mad reason I went back to those attacks, you could simply reblock for a month, six months, indef, etc. No questions asked. But I don't want to get back to that situation of having my conduct questioned, and getting blocked again. Once more, I make an apology for those edits, and will ensure this stops now.
I want to edit and make articles the best they can be. I understand I can be blunt to some users, but as per my opening line, I've reflected on this across the day. It's easy to take an extra second to think before posting a comment, or in some cases, not to comment at all, and let things go. Again, no hard feelings if this request is turned down, and if that's the case, see you all next week.
:If anyone could look at this during the morning (UK time) I'd be grateful. Even if it's to say no and tough cheese. I think Cricket246 is happy with my apology (above and thread below). I could also add ] to the above too. Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 06:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::<span class="template-ping">@]:</span>  - Good morning - have you had a chance to review this? Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::And looking at WP:BLOCKP - "Deterrence is based upon the likelihood of repetition. For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased or the conduct issues have been resolved." I would argue that the issue has ceased, with issues resolved, with a promise of this not continuing with the other editor (or any editor, for that matter). Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
:::And further looking at the ANI thread, MarnetteD, The Rambling Man and Betty Logan bring up points about issues being resolved, punitive" v "preventative, and reducing (the block) to the standard 24 hours and put him on notice, etc. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hello. I've had all day to reflect back on this. I can't excuse those edits. Nothing can. Needless to say, they should not have been made, and I apologise to Cricket246 for making them in the first place. I have many failings, with frustration being an obvious one. I understand that, and I need to spot these situations that lead to stupid actions on my part before they get to this level, and ensure those actions don't happen again. 
<span class="template-ping">@]:</span> - again, I apologise to you for those edits. I should not have made them - you do some fine work here. I'm very willing to draw a line under the whole thing, and more than happy to work with you on cricket umpire articles, etc, to make them the best they can be on WP. I'll happily remove my comments from the project's talkpage that offend. I understand if you don't accept the apology, and no hard feelings if you don't believe what I've written here.
<span class="template-ping">@]:</span> (or any other admin), I hope you believe I'm being sincere here. What else can I say? My block log clearly shows a block for a personal attack. What reassurances can I give? Only that it stands out like a sore thumb on said log, and thay if you were to unblock me now, and for some mad reason I went back to those attacks, you could simply reblock for a month, six months, indef, etc. No questions asked. But I don't want to get back to that situation of having my conduct questioned, and getting blocked again. Once more, I make an apology for those edits, and will ensure this stops now.
I want to edit and make articles the best they can be. I understand I can be blunt to some users, but as per my opening line, I've reflected on this across the day. It's easy to take an extra second to think before posting a comment, or in some cases, not to comment at all, and let things go. Again, no hard feelings if this request is turned down, and if that's the case, see you all next week.
:If anyone could look at this during the morning (UK time) I'd be grateful. Even if it's to say no and tough cheese. I think Cricket246 is happy with my apology (above and thread below). I could also add ] to the above too. Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 06:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::<span class="template-ping">@]:</span>  - Good morning - have you had a chance to review this? Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::And looking at WP:BLOCKP - "Deterrence is based upon the likelihood of repetition. For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased or the conduct issues have been resolved." I would argue that the issue has ceased, with issues resolved, with a promise of this not continuing with the other editor (or any editor, for that matter). Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
:::And further looking at the ANI thread, MarnetteD, The Rambling Man and Betty Logan bring up points about issues being resolved, punitive" v "preventative, and reducing (the block) to the standard 24 hours and put him on notice, etc. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hello. I've had all day to reflect back on this. I can't excuse those edits. Nothing can. Needless to say, they should not have been made, and I apologise to Cricket246 for making them in the first place. I have many failings, with frustration being an obvious one. I understand that, and I need to spot these situations that lead to stupid actions on my part before they get to this level, and ensure those actions don't happen again. 
<span class="template-ping">@]:</span> - again, I apologise to you for those edits. I should not have made them - you do some fine work here. I'm very willing to draw a line under the whole thing, and more than happy to work with you on cricket umpire articles, etc, to make them the best they can be on WP. I'll happily remove my comments from the project's talkpage that offend. I understand if you don't accept the apology, and no hard feelings if you don't believe what I've written here.
<span class="template-ping">@]:</span> (or any other admin), I hope you believe I'm being sincere here. What else can I say? My block log clearly shows a block for a personal attack. What reassurances can I give? Only that it stands out like a sore thumb on said log, and thay if you were to unblock me now, and for some mad reason I went back to those attacks, you could simply reblock for a month, six months, indef, etc. No questions asked. But I don't want to get back to that situation of having my conduct questioned, and getting blocked again. Once more, I make an apology for those edits, and will ensure this stops now.
I want to edit and make articles the best they can be. I understand I can be blunt to some users, but as per my opening line, I've reflected on this across the day. It's easy to take an extra second to think before posting a comment, or in some cases, not to comment at all, and let things go. Again, no hard feelings if this request is turned down, and if that's the case, see you all next week.
:If anyone could look at this during the morning (UK time) I'd be grateful. Even if it's to say no and tough cheese. I think Cricket246 is happy with my apology (above and thread below). I could also add ] to the above too. Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 06:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::<span class="template-ping">@]:</span>  - Good morning - have you had a chance to review this? Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 09:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
::And looking at WP:BLOCKP - "Deterrence is based upon the likelihood of repetition. For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased or the conduct issues have been resolved." I would argue that the issue has ceased, with issues resolved, with a promise of this not continuing with the other editor (or any editor, for that matter). Thanks. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
:::And further looking at the ANI thread, MarnetteD, The Rambling Man and Betty Logan bring up points about issues being resolved, punitive" v "preventative, and reducing (the block) to the standard 24 hours and put him on notice, etc. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:36, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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My thoughts

Hi Lugnuts. I accept your apology. I always have utmost respect for you for the immense contribution you make in Misplaced Pages. We shared a cordial relationship when I initially joined but then we had some differences in opinion and you turned hostile towards me. I always felt bad and hurt at those insults and abuse hurled at me. You were one of the users I always asked in case of any problems, but then you told me to get lost from your talkpage and totally isolated me. But honestly I never had hard feelings against you. I'm obviously ready to sort this out and make a fresh beginning like a family over here. I would like to have you as a friend and co-editor with a cordial relationship. The decision on the block rests with the administrators so hopefully they will decide what is right. If you want to avoid me completely that would be all good, but please don't hurl personal abuse and insult as it hurts a lot mentally and that's what I want to request you once you're back! Cricket246 (talk) 18:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Cricket246 - that means a lot, and once again, I'm sorry for what I said. Unblock or not, I make an assurance this will not happen again. Lugnuts 18:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I just want you to remember 1 thing and that is we are not competitors and we are not against one another. We all work towards one goal and that is to improve Misplaced Pages so hostility isn't needed. We should be like a family and obviously as I said it maybe that you don't like me or cannot tolerate me and in that you can definitely ignore me and I'll never disturb you either. I just hope for a more considerate approach towards the things that you many not agree with and I'm always open to all other ideas so it is never a problem. And trust me I have no hard feelings against you at all, I have been terribly hurt mentally for the past year or so by your treatment of me but I still wish you all the best on your return considering you as a friend. And let me extend a helping hand to you in dealing with your frustrations - if you need any support. Would be extremely pleased to be of any help. Regards and I personally accept your apology, now want to put this entire episode behind and start afresh from my side. Cricket246 (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

"We all work towards one goal and that is to improve Misplaced Pages so hostility isn't needed." - Couldn't have put it better myself. And the countdown to some historic cricket this summer has started. Lugnuts 18:43, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

The first thing I would like to do upon your return is open a discussion and review some of the rules and long standing conventions of the project and reach a clear consensus and agreement with all major members of the project how we should all implement it uniformly as the consistency part is currently missing but is really necessary in order to avoid disputes. Hopefully I can find some support on this plan from other members as well in order to achieve some much needed consistency in our edit works. Cricket246 (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Alot of the project's style guides are either a) vague b) out of date or c) simply don't address the way the project has now evolved. Lugnuts 19:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

So it needs a bit of review and modification/revision. I hope we can pull it off with cooperation from other esteemed members. Be back from your block soon and we shall look into this matter as soon as possible. Cricket246 (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, yes I have read your unblock request. I think it's good that you recognize that your actions were not right, but my preference is for the block to remain in place; while it's great that you have apologized to Cricket246 and are very repentant, but where were these strong feelings of remorse and recognition of the inappropriateness of your actions over the past 12 months of continual battering of Cricket246? This is not an isolated case, either. However, I will leave the unblock request in place, as I am perfectly open to another administrator reviewing your unblock request and arriving at a different outcome. Fish+Karate 09:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Well the chances of that seem slim to zero. Thanks anyway. Lugnuts 10:18, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fish and karate: and reading WP:BLOCKP - "Deterrence is based upon the likelihood of repetition. For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased or the conduct issues have been resolved." I would argue that the issue has ceased, with issues resolved, with a promise of this not continuing with the other editor (or any editor, for that matter). Thanks. Lugnuts 10:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Well the issue has obviously ceased as you are blocked from editing; that bit of WP:BLOCKP is a nonsense, but that's a separate discussion. Given a few people have spoken up for you on the ANI thread, and most of all Cricket246's gracious acceptance of your (after-the-fact) apology, I'm willing to unblock your account under the condition that any harassment or sniping or incivility or belittling of other editors or rolling back edits you don't agree with using uncivil edit summaries stops. For good. And with an acknowledgement from you that if it resumes, at any point in the future, on any venue on Misplaced Pages, a longer-term block would be implemented, and we would be talking significantly longer than a week. Is that acceptable to you? If so, I will note this agreement in the unblock summary, and then we can all get back to editing and get on with things. Thanks, Fish+Karate 11:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fish and karate: - without repeating everything you said verbatim, I agree to your post 100% and it's acceptable to me. Thanks for your post. Lugnuts 11:10, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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