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Minor edit

Please read wp:minor adding material is not a minor edit.Slatersteven (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

RS

Please read wp:rs. YouTube is not one.Slatersteven (talk) 16:37, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

YouTube is a hosting platform, and some channels qualify as reliable sources just as much as a TV station does, such as "verified" channels. That being said, YouTube is a minefield of self-published twaddle and copyright violations, so caution must be exercised. Elizium23 (talk) 04:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

And yes, CBS News' verified channel on YouTube is just as reliable as cbsnews.com is. Elizium23 (talk) 04:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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December 2019

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Abortion in the United States; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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This article is under a 1RR restriction - if you do not self-revert, I will request Arbitration Enforcement against you. Your choice. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 20:29, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

User:NorthBySouthBaranof Go to the Talk page of the article and state what issue you have with any of the information that was added. As I stated, there were previously far larger edits made and no such need for consensus on the Talk Page. Edit5001 (talk) 20:32, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Misplaced Pages's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at White genocide conspiracy theory, you may be blocked from editing. Doug Weller talk 06:16, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

You can't correct a ping

You need to completely start over with a new signed post. Doug Weller talk 08:08, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

1-revert rule.

Hello,

I've been making an honest, good-faith effort to discuss with you on Catholic Church and abortion. I was going to brush off the repeated reversions, but taking a look at your other editing history and repeated warnings on other subjects I worry that this would be counterproductive to a healthy Misplaced Pages. While I've been using Misplaced Pages for a very long time, it's mostly been grammar edits and less-attended articles for me, not conflicts like this. I'm open to the possibility that administrators find my activity to be problematic, not yours.

Also, it may be a minute before the report goes through. I'm still figuring this out. Triacylglyceride (talk) 02:28, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

I've been attempting to discuss these issues with you for nearly 2 weeks now. You do not even attempt to try to reach consensus with me. All you have done from day 1 is undo everything I write and not even attempt to try to agree on some kind of mutual improvement. I've edited perfectly fine with other people for months because they actually listen to my points instead of just throwing everything I write out and then not compromising whatsoever. This is what you have done. Edit5001 (talk) 02:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@Triacylglyceride:

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On the edit changes with Triacylglyceride

I have been attempting to negotiate with Triacylglyceride for almost 2 weeks on the wording in an article, and not once have they attempted to compromise despite my many attempts to do so. Regardless of what detailed sources or arguments I bring to the table, this person has stonewalled all change to the article I'm attempting to edit. I have been editing for months now and have had plenty of successful cases where I've negotiated with people and reached an outcome we both like. This is the first time I've encountered someone who utterly ignores all of my arguments, doesn't read the sources I add, and simply undoes all my edits in their entirety instead of adjusting them in a way they'd like. Edit5001 (talk) 02:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Will also add there have been several instances on the Talk page of them just flat out ceasing to respond to my points, even after I ping them respectfully asking for a reply. Edit5001 (talk) 03:13, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Z33 Doug Weller talk 16:36, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: What does this mean exactly? I think I understand the gist of it but just want to be sure. Edit5001 (talk) 16:46, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

I was on the Arbitration Committee that sets discretionary sanctions for four years. They can't dictate exactly what behavior is unacceptable, this is going to in part depend upon context for a start. All I can say is that if you follow our guidelines and policies, including not edit-warring or ignoring consensus, it's unlikely that you will be sanctioned. You're going to need to show good faith to other editors (and their behavior if bad cannot of course be an excuse for yours) and it appears you may have to change your behavior. Don't let your passions show in your editing. Doug Weller talk 16:55, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Can you give me some advice in how to deal with people who essentially stonewall my edits, even when they're relevant to the page, well sourced, and well explained? In particular in relation to abortion, I've recently encountered people who are obviously partisan, apply blatant double standards, and revert all edits they don't like instead of attempting to work toward a consensus. Edit5001 (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Nope, you're on your own there. Of course there is always WP:DRN. You're failing to assume good faith which while it may be tempting rarely helps. Sorry, I'm far too busy to be of more help. I have 19,223 pages on my watchlist (excluding talk pages) and besides being an Administrator I am also a Checkuser aond Oversighter (which means I can suppress edits so that even other Admins can't see them). Doug Weller talk 17:26, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Copy and pasting

We run "copy and paste" detection software on new edits. One of your edits appear to be infringing on someone else's copyright. See also Misplaced Pages:Copy-paste. We at Misplaced Pages usually require paraphrasing. If you own the copyright to this material please follow the directions at Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials to grant license. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:44, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12178868

Understood, thanks for the heads up. Edit5001 (talk) 13:53, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement request

There is a discussion regarding your conduct at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Edit5001. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 15:04, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

You have been mentioned here. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit-warring on Illegal immigration to the United States

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Also Charlottesville car attack. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:08, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

@Snooganssnoogans: You've been removing valid edits without discussion or consensus. Stop holding yourself to a different standard than you hold others. Edit5001 (talk) 16:11, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit-warring on Catholic Church and abortion

NightHeron (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

December 2019

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Talk:Illegal immigration to the United States#"most Americans oppose illegal immigration". If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. This has got to stop. You've been taken to AE once and got off, but this sort of behaviour is also covered by the discretionary sanctions. Doug Weller talk 11:24, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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Elizium23 (talk) 15:47, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

The CNN Page

I appreciate what you are trying to do with the CNN page.....but a small piece of advice: I wouldn't waste too much time arguing with these people. I've tried it myself in the past and it does no good. (See archive#6.) There is already a matter up now for a vote.....but it's not a RFC. Unless you want the same biased people voting (that you are arguing with)...I'd start a RFC (and make your argument clear) to attract some additional people. It may not help, but you will not get anywhere with most of the people who watch this page.Rja13ww33 (talk) 22:03, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

1RR

You have violated 1RR with your most recent edit to Illegal immigration to the United States; I'll give you an opportunity to self-revert. I remind you that a "revert" is An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part. Your most recent edit undoes my reliably-sourced addition to the article and is at least your second revert for the day - this is obviously a prior revert. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 00:17, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

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