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Page was created as summary-style article split from Dutch language. Diff: CIreland (talk) 18:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Unmotivated tag

As far as I can see, there is no contradiction whatsoever between the content of this article and that of nl:Nederlandse dialecten, let alone a serious one. Who is responsible for this tag and on what grounds could it have been assigned? I am very curious to hear which reservations on whose side there possibly could be here. It looks like some unexplicable mystery. -- Ad43 (talk) 14:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Focus

The whole article lacks focus. Its subject is not clearly defined. It should about either:

• Dialects of the Dutch language; or
• Dialects of the Netherlands

The definition:

Dutch dialects are primarily the dialects that are both cognate with the Dutch language

and are spoken in the same language area as the Dutch standard language.

does not make much sense. By this definition French Flemish would not be a Dutch dialect, while Lower Saxon would arguably be. Then the article goes on to mention several dialects outside the area of the Dutch standard language.

So what should it be? All dialects spoken in the Netherlands (including Frisian), or, as I would suggest, all dialect varieties of modern Lower Frankish (of which Dutch is the only official standard language). This would exclude Frisian and Lower Saxon.--Joostik (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the template {{Dutch dialects}} (displayed on the right) covers most dialects. Frisian is not a dialect - it's a language. If Frisian would be mentioned in the article, than for that reason and that reason only. Low Saxon should be included, though. Richard 07:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Across the borders

The previous text read:

'Zeelandic (Zeeuws) is spoken in most of Zeeland (Netherlands) and is a transitional regional language between West Flemish and Hollandic. In the eastern part of Zeelandic Flanders, East Flemish is spoken.'

Zeelandic, however, does not cross a border. East Flemish, on the other hand, does so I have changed the text accordingly. Collideascope (talk) 20:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Groups of dialects

http://www.wjheeringa.nl/thesis/thesis09.pdf is a scientfic study. It has the following groups, which should -apart from the Frisian varieties- entered into the article, but changed formally.

• Frisian, doesn't fit into the article
• Frisian mixed varieties, imho doesn't fit into the article either
• Groningen
• Overijssel, also including large parts of Gelderland
• Southwest Limburg, Belgium only
• Brabant, also including most of Antwerp Province
• Central Dutch varieties, nearly entire Holland and Utrecht Province, as well as large parts of North Brabant and Gelderland
• Urk
• East Flanders
• West Flanders, up to France
• Zeeland
• Limburg, also nearly all of North Limburg. This part of North Limburg has a long border with Germany. For the most part, the places on the German side of this part of the border are in the Kleverlandish dialect area. The term

Limburgish would therefore be too narrow. I therefore suggest using the term Meuse-Rhenish.

• Northeast Luik, including Kerkrade and Eupen, could also be given as Southeast Limburgish.

Sarcelles (talk) 06:11, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

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